| KmC is not going anywhere 07:48 - May 19 with 7415 views | RIPbobby |
He is very happy here. Has a young family in settled schools. There is no chance of him going in the next 5 years. He has already been fairly high at the top table at old trafford and is more than happy here. This is the team he built and he is smart enough not to want out. Yes he will get linked with every job out there, but none of them are appealing. |  | | |  |
| KmC is not going anywhere on 08:07 - May 19 with 5098 views | ArnieM |
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| KmC is not going anywhere on 08:09 - May 19 with 5098 views | LeoMuff |
As much as I want that to be true, I don’t see a very high probability of him being here in 5 years. Probably not in two, I don’t think you go into football management without expectations your family will have to uproot every couple of years. |  |
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| KmC is not going anywhere on 08:22 - May 19 with 4984 views | franz_tyson |
There's every chance he'll go in the next 5 years. Just hopefully he'll hang around for a year or two.
Most manager's get sacked irrespective if they have a young family in settled schools. No owner gives a f#ck about a manager having young kids in a local school when they sack him. It's not a settled profession.
Get used to the idea he'll leave, but hopefully it's not just yet and all on our terms. |  | | |
| KmC is not going anywhere on 08:41 - May 19 with 4839 views | muhrensleftfoot |
He won't be leaving us for Brighton. Yes they're a good well run club, but we have a brilliant ownership, CEO and financial backing. A big fanbase too. We have a proud history of success thanks to Sir Alf and Sir Bobby, which Brighton can't come even close to matching. Perhaps if we had not been promoted this season, he might have been tempted, but certainly not now. It's Kieran's project, & I just can't see him walking out |  | | |
| KmC is not going anywhere on 08:45 - May 19 with 4787 views | RIPbobby |
| KmC is not going anywhere on 08:22 - May 19 by franz_tyson |
There's every chance he'll go in the next 5 years. Just hopefully he'll hang around for a year or two.
Most manager's get sacked irrespective if they have a young family in settled schools. No owner gives a f#ck about a manager having young kids in a local school when they sack him. It's not a settled profession.
Get used to the idea he'll leave, but hopefully it's not just yet and all on our terms. |
Are you suggesting Ashton would sack him? Very unlikely in my eyes. Surely everyone can see how happy and settled he is here? He has had his name tarnished at old trafford once, he would not go back for more. Especially the trouble most who would want a change are in. Lots of those jobs are a 5 year starter plan, but the clubs would give just 2 years to turn them around.nimpossible.
He has started a project here and he won't even think of leaving before we get champions league. Once we hit there then he might start to feel there is not much more to achieve here. His work is far from done. | | | |
| KmC is not going anywhere on 08:46 - May 19 with 4783 views | Bossy |
Meh, I think we’re safe from Brighton advances. I’m more nervous about Man Utd. |  |
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| KmC is not going anywhere on 08:53 - May 19 with 4740 views | franz_tyson |
| KmC is not going anywhere on 08:41 - May 19 by muhrensleftfoot |
He won't be leaving us for Brighton. Yes they're a good well run club, but we have a brilliant ownership, CEO and financial backing. A big fanbase too. We have a proud history of success thanks to Sir Alf and Sir Bobby, which Brighton can't come even close to matching. Perhaps if we had not been promoted this season, he might have been tempted, but certainly not now. It's Kieran's project, & I just can't see him walking out |
You make good points until you got to the history and legacy bit. Why would Kieran want to stay because he wants to emulate Sir Bobby and Sir Alf? Surely that's more for the fans.... and not for an ambitious, young manager. Brighton are a few rungs and quite a few years ahead of us in terms of PL pedigree and might be that stepping stone needed for that big, big job.
I just hope Kièran backs himself for the moment and sticks with us in the hope that we'll be the stepping stone to the big time, and not a Brighton.
I guess the fear is if we have a tough time and his reputation goes from being the hottest property to being a Lambert. | | | |
| KmC is not going anywhere on 09:01 - May 19 with 4661 views | ArnieM |
Interestingly though some of those arguments were levied against us when we were promoted to the Championship weren’t they, and look what happened, we blew it away. Just because Brighton are established doesn’t make them a better bet (in light of the backing our owners give us snd thf infrastructure, momentum , strategy and forward planning at ITFC), ALL of which McKenna is playing a pivotal role in devising alongside Ashton. It really is a unique situation for a young manager to be in. I just can’t see him giving that up so easily, yet. | |
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| KmC is not going anywhere on 09:10 - May 19 with 4608 views | franz_tyson |
| KmC is not going anywhere on 08:45 - May 19 by RIPbobby |
Are you suggesting Ashton would sack him? Very unlikely in my eyes. Surely everyone can see how happy and settled he is here? He has had his name tarnished at old trafford once, he would not go back for more. Especially the trouble most who would want a change are in. Lots of those jobs are a 5 year starter plan, but the clubs would give just 2 years to turn them around.nimpossible.
He has started a project here and he won't even think of leaving before we get champions league. Once we hit there then he might start to feel there is not much more to achieve here. His work is far from done. |
No I wasn't suggesting Ashton is going to sack him. I was making a point that having young kids in a settled school probably won't be a major factor in this industry.
Kieran is hot at the moment and everyone wants him..... but if things dont go to plan then his stock will plummet. It's a two way thing. Owners ( and fans) don't care about a manager having kids in schools when things aren't going well.
I've just read your last paragraph. He won't leave here until we get Champions League? Serious? Look... if Kieran can establish us as a PL club over the next couple of years id be delighted, especiallyif we're playing a great brand of football. And he'd still be seen as a rising star ready for the next step. Think you're getting ahead of yourself with the Champions League. | | | |
| KmC is not going anywhere on 09:19 - May 19 with 4534 views | LeoMuff |
| KmC is not going anywhere on 08:22 - May 19 by franz_tyson |
There's every chance he'll go in the next 5 years. Just hopefully he'll hang around for a year or two.
Most manager's get sacked irrespective if they have a young family in settled schools. No owner gives a f#ck about a manager having young kids in a local school when they sack him. It's not a settled profession.
Get used to the idea he'll leave, but hopefully it's not just yet and all on our terms. |
You would think he would look at it that all clubs will have ups and downs, we are due some downs possibly, the credit he has with the owners and fans means we will ride those out, and that’s how you build a club back to top half prem.
We might get relegated but one season in the prem and we will be in great shape to bounce back, a lot of clubs will be sacking in those scenarios, but we seem more long term. | |
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| KmC is not going anywhere on 09:24 - May 19 with 4494 views | RIPbobby |
| KmC is not going anywhere on 09:10 - May 19 by franz_tyson |
No I wasn't suggesting Ashton is going to sack him. I was making a point that having young kids in a settled school probably won't be a major factor in this industry.
Kieran is hot at the moment and everyone wants him..... but if things dont go to plan then his stock will plummet. It's a two way thing. Owners ( and fans) don't care about a manager having kids in schools when things aren't going well.
I've just read your last paragraph. He won't leave here until we get Champions League? Serious? Look... if Kieran can establish us as a PL club over the next couple of years id be delighted, especiallyif we're playing a great brand of football. And he'd still be seen as a rising star ready for the next step. Think you're getting ahead of yourself with the Champions League. |
I'm not sure I am getting ahead of myself? We have lost 10 league games in 2 seasons. Champions Leicester lost 11 last season alone. I rate our manager very highly. He has us playing in a way where teams try to stop us scoring by trying a myriad of ways to do this. This in many ways removes their chances of beating us. Anyway that's another story.
There are only 38 league matches in the prem. Not the Tuesday, Saturday, Tuesday we are used to. Also lots and lots of time to prep for games. Assuming he gets in Jeremy, Omari and keifer and even perhaps Travis then we are only 3 or 4 players away from a very competitive side. I think we will be very competitive when it comes to august. We have a few months to take stock and then we adjust in January. | | | |
| KmC is not going anywhere on 09:24 - May 19 with 4489 views | MK1 |
"5 years"?
That is a hell of a statement. |  |
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| KmC is not going anywhere on 09:27 - May 19 with 4449 views | MK1 |
| KmC is not going anywhere on 08:45 - May 19 by RIPbobby |
Are you suggesting Ashton would sack him? Very unlikely in my eyes. Surely everyone can see how happy and settled he is here? He has had his name tarnished at old trafford once, he would not go back for more. Especially the trouble most who would want a change are in. Lots of those jobs are a 5 year starter plan, but the clubs would give just 2 years to turn them around.nimpossible.
He has started a project here and he won't even think of leaving before we get champions league. Once we hit there then he might start to feel there is not much more to achieve here. His work is far from done. |
You have very high expectations. "champions league"? You know that is top 4 right? | |
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| KmC is not going anywhere on 09:31 - May 19 with 4423 views | _clive_baker_ |
I can’t see Chelsea or United going for him. Frankly Chelsea should stick with Pochettinho, he’s a good manager, they’ve won their last 4 and he seems to be building something. They’ve drawn a few too many and concede too many goals but generally over the last few months their results have been better, and they’re good to watch. He’s not even had a year yet, they need to back him and give him another summer window. If they keep chopping and changing they deserve nothing.
Brighton worry me, they’re a number of years ahead of us and it would be a move that effectively consolidates KM as a premier league manager barring a bit of a disaster. They’ll give him time and he could feasibly prove himself at the top level there in readiness for a move to a big club. A few challenging months with us and while his job here would be safe, there’s no guarantees a move like this would come up. IF Brighton recruit Farioli as has been rumoured then that would be a big win for us. |  | | |
| KmC is not going anywhere on 09:33 - May 19 with 4399 views | NeedhamChris |
This post will in all likelihood age terribly. We're all fans and would never swap clubs - this is a career for Kieran and he will make the decision that is best for progressing it.
This is just clueless drivel based on applying 100% pro ITFC emotion to a debate, with 0% logic. His agent is clearly working hard to generate interest.
I'm staying out of it mostly, not worth the stress. But I would he pleasantly surprised if he's still at PR come August. | |
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| KmC is not going anywhere on 09:38 - May 19 with 4326 views | MK1 |
| KmC is not going anywhere on 09:24 - May 19 by RIPbobby |
I'm not sure I am getting ahead of myself? We have lost 10 league games in 2 seasons. Champions Leicester lost 11 last season alone. I rate our manager very highly. He has us playing in a way where teams try to stop us scoring by trying a myriad of ways to do this. This in many ways removes their chances of beating us. Anyway that's another story.
There are only 38 league matches in the prem. Not the Tuesday, Saturday, Tuesday we are used to. Also lots and lots of time to prep for games. Assuming he gets in Jeremy, Omari and keifer and even perhaps Travis then we are only 3 or 4 players away from a very competitive side. I think we will be very competitive when it comes to august. We have a few months to take stock and then we adjust in January. |
You really are getting ahead of yourself. This is the worrying thing. Our fans have had 2 amazing seasons against FGR, Bristol Rovers, Fleetwood, Stoke, Plymouth, Huddersfield etc. We now play Liverpool, Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea etc.
A reality check is definitely needed by some. Survival this coming season is key, then take it from there. We are going to lose more games this season than we win, but have enough to survive is my prediction. I am a very optimistic person, but also a realist. Please stop with the "champions league" though. That ain't happening for a fair few years yet. | |
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| KmC is not going anywhere on 09:40 - May 19 with 4301 views | Ftnfwest |
| KmC is not going anywhere on 08:41 - May 19 by muhrensleftfoot |
He won't be leaving us for Brighton. Yes they're a good well run club, but we have a brilliant ownership, CEO and financial backing. A big fanbase too. We have a proud history of success thanks to Sir Alf and Sir Bobby, which Brighton can't come even close to matching. Perhaps if we had not been promoted this season, he might have been tempted, but certainly not now. It's Kieran's project, & I just can't see him walking out |
I must admit I just can’t see him going there at this stage. Still a lot more potential going forward here and certainly a lot more time. He might only get 6-9 months somewhere like that before poor form sees him out the door and onto the failed managers merry go round with the rest. |  | | |
| KmC is not going anywhere on 09:45 - May 19 with 4248 views | MK1 |
| KmC is not going anywhere on 09:40 - May 19 by Ftnfwest |
I must admit I just can’t see him going there at this stage. Still a lot more potential going forward here and certainly a lot more time. He might only get 6-9 months somewhere like that before poor form sees him out the door and onto the failed managers merry go round with the rest. |
He won't fail though, will he?
We have the best young manager in Europe if not the World. That's something I have read on here a few times.
I think McKenna will be successful wherever he manages and luckily for us, for the time being, he is ours. Talk of champions league football on here does make me laugh. | |
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| KmC is not going anywhere on 09:51 - May 19 with 4191 views | Freddy |
| KmC is not going anywhere on 08:46 - May 19 by Bossy |
Meh, I think we’re safe from Brighton advances. I’m more nervous about Man Utd. |
Even if he d get double the wages to set him up for life? | | | |
| KmC is not going anywhere on 09:53 - May 19 with 4173 views | rodney76 |
| KmC is not going anywhere on 08:41 - May 19 by muhrensleftfoot |
He won't be leaving us for Brighton. Yes they're a good well run club, but we have a brilliant ownership, CEO and financial backing. A big fanbase too. We have a proud history of success thanks to Sir Alf and Sir Bobby, which Brighton can't come even close to matching. Perhaps if we had not been promoted this season, he might have been tempted, but certainly not now. It's Kieran's project, & I just can't see him walking out |
The only rumours that concern me are those telling of a Man. U. interest.
Brighton/Palace? Never. McK might just as well stay put and continue his job here.
I closely watch the situation at Old Trafford and the direction the decision makers there might take. | | | |
| KmC is not going anywhere on 09:53 - May 19 with 4169 views | jayessess |
| KmC is not going anywhere on 09:33 - May 19 by NeedhamChris |
This post will in all likelihood age terribly. We're all fans and would never swap clubs - this is a career for Kieran and he will make the decision that is best for progressing it.
This is just clueless drivel based on applying 100% pro ITFC emotion to a debate, with 0% logic. His agent is clearly working hard to generate interest.
I'm staying out of it mostly, not worth the stress. But I would he pleasantly surprised if he's still at PR come August. |
Whilst I do think the OP's being a bit naïve here, but I think it likelier than not that McKenna's still here in August.
There's multiple reasons why which have little to do with McKenna. Firstly, Premier League clubs don't poach managers from other English league clubs very often full stop. There's not a single current incumbent PL manager who got his job in that way and no-one has done it since Autumn 2022 (Potter to Chelsea, Jones to Southampton). Before that the last one was Lampard to Chelsea in 2019.
Secondly, it's big wide world out there and whilst McKenna hype is all we're thinking about in Suffolk, most clubs ultimately look to appoint managers whose achievement are commensurate with their stature. The other candidate being linked heavily to Brighton is the head coach of Nice, he's De Zerbi's former assistant at Sassuolo and just took Nice back in the Europa League. He's objectively less of a risky appointment than KM. Manchester United and Chelsea are potential landing spots for global elite coaches and haven't even sacked their current manager.
Thirdly, most managers don't leave stable jobs most of the time. The kids in school thing might not be a huge factor, but at Ipswich KM has total buy-in for his methods from everyone at the club, infinite credit with the board and fans, his word is gospel. Getting those things is never a given when you move club (look at Graham Potter) and things can go sour very quickly if you don't get them. You have to think very carefully about how many rungs up the ladder makes it worthwhile to lose all that (especially when we're now in a position to be relatively competitive with other Premier League clubs on wages).
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| KmC is not going anywhere on 09:55 - May 19 with 4135 views | MK1 |
| KmC is not going anywhere on 09:53 - May 19 by rodney76 |
The only rumours that concern me are those telling of a Man. U. interest.
Brighton/Palace? Never. McK might just as well stay put and continue his job here.
I closely watch the situation at Old Trafford and the direction the decision makers there might take. |
I think Ten Hag get another year. Thomas Tuchel will get it this time if Utd get rid though. | |
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| KmC is not going anywhere on 09:55 - May 19 with 4127 views | BlueRaider |
| KmC is not going anywhere on 09:31 - May 19 by _clive_baker_ |
I can’t see Chelsea or United going for him. Frankly Chelsea should stick with Pochettinho, he’s a good manager, they’ve won their last 4 and he seems to be building something. They’ve drawn a few too many and concede too many goals but generally over the last few months their results have been better, and they’re good to watch. He’s not even had a year yet, they need to back him and give him another summer window. If they keep chopping and changing they deserve nothing.
Brighton worry me, they’re a number of years ahead of us and it would be a move that effectively consolidates KM as a premier league manager barring a bit of a disaster. They’ll give him time and he could feasibly prove himself at the top level there in readiness for a move to a big club. A few challenging months with us and while his job here would be safe, there’s no guarantees a move like this would come up. IF Brighton recruit Farioli as has been rumoured then that would be a big win for us. |
If we'd gone up two years ago we would have said that Leicester and Southampton were established premier league clubs
There is no such thing outside the top 6 | |
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| KmC is not going anywhere on 10:00 - May 19 with 4069 views | southnorfolkblue |
| KmC is not going anywhere on 08:45 - May 19 by RIPbobby |
Are you suggesting Ashton would sack him? Very unlikely in my eyes. Surely everyone can see how happy and settled he is here? He has had his name tarnished at old trafford once, he would not go back for more. Especially the trouble most who would want a change are in. Lots of those jobs are a 5 year starter plan, but the clubs would give just 2 years to turn them around.nimpossible.
He has started a project here and he won't even think of leaving before we get champions league. Once we hit there then he might start to feel there is not much more to achieve here. His work is far from done. |
5 years is a hell of a long time and things can change very quickly. It’s the modern world of football where any manager is potentially probably only 10-15 games from the sack if things go wrong. Him being settled and happy has zero to do with whether he might get the boot at some point.
FWIW he clearly has massive credit in the bank, but he doesn’t have 5 years worth! | |
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| KmC is not going anywhere on 10:01 - May 19 with 4070 views | TheMover |
One thing that doesn't seem to have been brought up is the fact that he us currently the manager of Ipswich, not the head coach. Most of the positions he has been linked with are for a head coach.
He currently has major input in to improvements throughout the club, as opposed to having players bought for him and told to coach them, a la Chelsea | | | |
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