| Kieran 22:56 - May 25 with 9205 views | cambourneblue |
It’s like this Kieran 55,000 fans turned out to see you on the coach show them some respect please, you have had lots of opportunities to say what your doing |  | | |  |
| Kieran on 10:41 - May 26 with 2032 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Why would he come out and say he’s going nowhere and reduce his negotiating hand not only with clubs who might be interested in him, but importantly with a potential new contract at Town? |  |
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| Kieran on 10:54 - May 26 with 1998 views | Guthrum |
| Kieran on 10:29 - May 26 by strikalite |
I know what you mean R, if it wasn't for social media we wouldn't know about 99% of this, which would be far better for all of us, but the timing is so disappointing and the fact that he has a contract with us I thought would mean something to him, to be honest I'm pretty torn how I now feel because I do see the lure of ManU and that bloody clause that releases him, but there is a part of me too that wouldn't mind us cutting our losses with him Monday morning to give US as a club the control back, because I'm not sure if it can even be the same now... [Post edited 26 May 2024 10:39]
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We don't have any losses to cut yet. McKenna is still our manager and, so far as has been reported, there aren't any offers from other clubs on the table yet.
No manager is going to sign an "eternal loyalty" contract, handcuffing them to a club, especially when they get ruthlessly sacked all the time. It can't be a one-way street like that.
The moment the season gets going again and we get the first good performance and win under our belt, all this will be forgotten and he'll be our Super Kieran McKenna again. |  |
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| Kieran on 10:56 - May 26 with 1995 views | blueboyd |
blatantly doesn't want to be here, has instructed his ageent to make some noise for thhe better jobs, so I say thanks McKenna for the past 2 years but I cannot support you with the same respect as I had for you before all this nonsense, please go. | | | |
| Kieran on 10:58 - May 26 with 1985 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Kieran on 10:56 - May 26 by blueboyd |
blatantly doesn't want to be here, has instructed his ageent to make some noise for thhe better jobs, so I say thanks McKenna for the past 2 years but I cannot support you with the same respect as I had for you before all this nonsense, please go. |
Please go. | |
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| Kieran on 11:07 - May 26 with 1967 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| Kieran on 10:00 - May 26 by Ryorry |
If you, a Town fan, were managing Leicester, would you not keep stum to wait and see if ITFC came in with a bid asking you to take over at PR? |
I think that your analogy might be more apposite if you'd used a team like Oxford as example rather than Leicester. [Post edited 26 May 2024 11:10]
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| Kieran on 11:14 - May 26 with 1941 views | Mullet |
| Kieran on 10:56 - May 26 by blueboyd |
blatantly doesn't want to be here, has instructed his ageent to make some noise for thhe better jobs, so I say thanks McKenna for the past 2 years but I cannot support you with the same respect as I had for you before all this nonsense, please go. |
Well that’s it then, his future here is done. How can he recover from this? |  |
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| Kieran on 11:15 - May 26 with 1933 views | smithy69 |
| Kieran on 10:03 - May 26 by RadioOrwell |
I would want to manage Ipswich and not Leicester.
And I should tell Leicester that I don't want to manage them. |
Assuming you don’t understand what a contract is lol | | | |
| Kieran on 11:17 - May 26 with 1928 views | strikalite |
| Kieran on 10:54 - May 26 by Guthrum |
We don't have any losses to cut yet. McKenna is still our manager and, so far as has been reported, there aren't any offers from other clubs on the table yet.
No manager is going to sign an "eternal loyalty" contract, handcuffing them to a club, especially when they get ruthlessly sacked all the time. It can't be a one-way street like that.
The moment the season gets going again and we get the first good performance and win under our belt, all this will be forgotten and he'll be our Super Kieran McKenna again. |
Yeah fair response that Guthers, your last sentence keeps me hopeful at least... |  | | |
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| Kieran on 11:18 - May 26 with 1922 views | smithy69 |
| Kieran on 10:56 - May 26 by blueboyd |
blatantly doesn't want to be here, has instructed his ageent to make some noise for thhe better jobs, so I say thanks McKenna for the past 2 years but I cannot support you with the same respect as I had for you before all this nonsense, please go. |
Bore off | | | |
| Kieran on 11:25 - May 26 with 1906 views | backwaywhen |
| Kieran on 09:42 - May 26 by Ryorry |
Disappointed that you’re underestimating KM.
I think he’s perfectly capable of multitasking, and see no reason why he shouldn’t be planning for Town’s next season along with MA and co., at the same time as perfectly reasonably keeping zipped in the hope that his boyhood club will come and ask him to take that top job. |
Great post , and he did say in that LMA interview that the club is in a great place for next season . | | | |
| Kieran on 11:28 - May 26 with 1901 views | smithy69 |
| Kieran on 10:56 - May 26 by blueboyd |
blatantly doesn't want to be here, has instructed his ageent to make some noise for thhe better jobs, so I say thanks McKenna for the past 2 years but I cannot support you with the same respect as I had for you before all this nonsense, please go. |
You post Evey 2 years lol - and last Time it was about Gaza
Stay away from football chat please. It’s embarrassing and not for you | | | |
| Kieran on 11:32 - May 26 with 1888 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Kieran on 10:11 - May 26 by Churchman |
The club can plan and do re for infrastructure but how can you get in discussions about players and squad? Firstly, should he go, that’s not very fair on his replacement. If he doesn’t like what's been done your season is potentially done before it begins, especially as we are up against it anyway.
Secondly, unless you are going back to mercenary days, how can you discuss with a player what you are after if you might not be there?
Lastly, assuming we’ve not been lied to about the recruitment process, what is the point of Kieran giving possibles to a recruitment team to follow up at this time?
I don’t see how anything much player preparation wise can be done until McKenna or his replacement is settled in.
This is not about KMs work ethic or underestimating how hard he works. I’m sure he’s giving his all. But essentially, planning somebody else’s season can only go so far at this time in my view. That includes who you keep and who you let go.
It’s just how I see it at a practical level - caveat: we don’t know what’s happening in reality. This is just forum guesswork on media spin. |
The manager of any club could leave at any time. Who knows when an enquiry might come in to tempt the manager away.
You CANNOT halt planning the running of any operation on the basis of "whatifs" - you work with the current know situation, and have contingencies for the 'whatifs'.
The CLUB, including Kieran, will be continuing to work on the basis of the current set up, and likely have numerous contingencies for change in place to be used if needed. | | | |
| I’m sending my season ticket back… on 11:34 - May 26 with 1879 views | Bloots |
| Kieran on 10:56 - May 26 by blueboyd |
blatantly doesn't want to be here, has instructed his ageent to make some noise for thhe better jobs, so I say thanks McKenna for the past 2 years but I cannot support you with the same respect as I had for you before all this nonsense, please go. |
….I support Kieran McKenna not Ipswich Town, whoever they are!! |  |
| "The sooner he comes back the better, this place has been a disaster without him" - TWTD User (July 2025) |
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| Kieran on 11:40 - May 26 with 1868 views | Ryorry |
| Kieran on 10:11 - May 26 by Churchman |
The club can plan and do re for infrastructure but how can you get in discussions about players and squad? Firstly, should he go, that’s not very fair on his replacement. If he doesn’t like what's been done your season is potentially done before it begins, especially as we are up against it anyway.
Secondly, unless you are going back to mercenary days, how can you discuss with a player what you are after if you might not be there?
Lastly, assuming we’ve not been lied to about the recruitment process, what is the point of Kieran giving possibles to a recruitment team to follow up at this time?
I don’t see how anything much player preparation wise can be done until McKenna or his replacement is settled in.
This is not about KMs work ethic or underestimating how hard he works. I’m sure he’s giving his all. But essentially, planning somebody else’s season can only go so far at this time in my view. That includes who you keep and who you let go.
It’s just how I see it at a practical level - caveat: we don’t know what’s happening in reality. This is just forum guesswork on media spin. |
The transfer window doesn't open till Friday 14 June (no official confirmation but universal expectation in media that it will be same as last season). However, international deals will only be able to be confirmed / processed from 1 July 2024 onwards.
And I'm sure players are a lot more phlegmatic & flexible than most fans on here are. They're in a business where their careers are on the line & able to take a turn or be messed up every time they play - injury, managers' tactics & plans, owners' whims etc. etc |  |
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| Kieran on 11:42 - May 26 with 1855 views | Ryorry |
| Kieran on 11:07 - May 26 by Tangledupin_Blue |
I think that your analogy might be more apposite if you'd used a team like Oxford as example rather than Leicester. [Post edited 26 May 2024 11:10]
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I did think of doing that & using a club like them, but decided it had to be one going into the Prem really, or it wouldn't be a fair analogy. | |
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| Kieran on 11:43 - May 26 with 1842 views | RadioOrwell |
| Kieran on 10:37 - May 26 by Mullet |
Are you 6? What sort of emotional nonsense are you guys living through?
He might not want to be here and end up with no job to go to, does he then make that public?
I hope he stays, I hope a few fans eat humble pie, but if he doesn’t he’s put us in our best position for years. Made our future secure and set us up for a few more years of success. If that means he still owes us according to some, then they’re out of their tree frankly.
All this entitlement and tantrums is harming the club more than those sorting out the short term future. |
You're funny.
You talk about entitlement and tantrums and - 'are you 6' ?
ffs
Look in the mirror pal. |  | | |
| Kieran on 11:47 - May 26 with 1831 views | mellowblue |
Having started his career explorations, he can't really say anything until he has finished that process. What can he say. I doubt he expected private discussions to have become such a media circus. The fact that he has a buy out clause at an acceptable price to him, the club and any buying club signals he wanted the opportunity to break his contract if the right offer came. He is just exercising that implied freedom to negotiate. Should he stay and re-negotiate his salary, I would expect Ashton would want to up the buy out to 10-15 million at least, given McKenna's current high esteem and status in the game. | | | |
| Kieran on 11:57 - May 26 with 1810 views | RadioOrwell |
| Kieran on 11:15 - May 26 by smithy69 |
Assuming you don’t understand what a contract is lol |
I assume you haven't heard he is talking to other clubs. | | | |
| Kieran on 12:09 - May 26 with 1787 views | smithy69 |
| Kieran on 11:57 - May 26 by RadioOrwell |
I assume you haven't heard he is talking to other clubs. |
He isn’t talking to other clubs as that would break rules I would imagine - around tapping up
His agent may well be though
That’s not the same thing mate | | | |
| Kieran on 12:11 - May 26 with 1781 views | RadioOrwell |
| Kieran on 12:09 - May 26 by smithy69 |
He isn’t talking to other clubs as that would break rules I would imagine - around tapping up
His agent may well be though
That’s not the same thing mate |
Yes it is mate. | | | |
| Kieran on 12:21 - May 26 with 1752 views | smithy69 |
It really isn’t - but we can agree to disagree | | | |
| Kieran on 13:08 - May 26 with 1692 views | RadioOrwell |
| Kieran on 12:21 - May 26 by smithy69 |
It really isn’t - but we can agree to disagree |
What do you think an agent does ?
Is he visiting Brighton or Manchester ( if in fact he is - I don't know, it could be complete tosh ) for the night life or for some shopping ? | | | |
| Kieran on 13:50 - May 26 with 1666 views | Guthrum |
| Kieran on 10:11 - May 26 by Churchman |
The club can plan and do re for infrastructure but how can you get in discussions about players and squad? Firstly, should he go, that’s not very fair on his replacement. If he doesn’t like what's been done your season is potentially done before it begins, especially as we are up against it anyway.
Secondly, unless you are going back to mercenary days, how can you discuss with a player what you are after if you might not be there?
Lastly, assuming we’ve not been lied to about the recruitment process, what is the point of Kieran giving possibles to a recruitment team to follow up at this time?
I don’t see how anything much player preparation wise can be done until McKenna or his replacement is settled in.
This is not about KMs work ethic or underestimating how hard he works. I’m sure he’s giving his all. But essentially, planning somebody else’s season can only go so far at this time in my view. That includes who you keep and who you let go.
It’s just how I see it at a practical level - caveat: we don’t know what’s happening in reality. This is just forum guesswork on media spin. |
My thoughts:
Players suggested by McKenna will be of good quality/potential and fit into our system whoever is in charge.
If selecting a new Manager, he will be picked on the basis of what's in place or in train. If he doesn't want to accept it, feels the need to rip up the squad and playing style, he isn't the man for us. Wouldn't be in any case (we're not going to be buying a whole new team, even if McKenna stays).
At lots of clubs the Manager has limited influence on overall philosophy and transfers. That's what Directors of Football do nowadays. Candidates will be used to the scenario, as will players. | |
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| Kieran on 14:23 - May 26 with 1619 views | Churchman |
| Kieran on 13:50 - May 26 by Guthrum |
My thoughts:
Players suggested by McKenna will be of good quality/potential and fit into our system whoever is in charge.
If selecting a new Manager, he will be picked on the basis of what's in place or in train. If he doesn't want to accept it, feels the need to rip up the squad and playing style, he isn't the man for us. Wouldn't be in any case (we're not going to be buying a whole new team, even if McKenna stays).
At lots of clubs the Manager has limited influence on overall philosophy and transfers. That's what Directors of Football do nowadays. Candidates will be used to the scenario, as will players. |
Fair points, Guthrum. You may well be right.
We only get bits on how the process works and I certainly have no idea. I just believe you cannot plan or engage beyond a certain level with this level of uncertainty - if it exists! |  | | |
| Kieran on 17:42 - May 26 with 1523 views | Bucklebury_blue |
My mate Riath Al-Samarrai did a really good piece on KM in the Mail on Sunday today, involving a cautionary tale about Nigel Adkins, who won back-to-back promotions with Soton and was 15th in the Prem when they sacked him to get Pochettino. That ended his upward trajectory and he went to Reading (sacked), then to Sheff U (sacked) to Hull (left) to Charlton (left) and is now at Tranmere.
And while I'm at it, the disrespect being shown to KM by some is disgraceful and shows a lack of knowledge about how agents work ... they only get the big commissions when they engineer a move for their clients so use the press to unsettle their people. I wouldn't mind betting KM is being played too. And Cambourneblue, KM owes you NOTHING. | | | |
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