| Another Thread Gone 16:51 - Jun 27 with 8024 views | PhilTWTD |
Many of the same posters involved as usual. Really getting very sick of it, got other things to do other than deal with that sort of nonsense day after day. Think this can be taken as a final warning that the kind of deliberate pressing people's buttons, winding up, piling on etc which has gone on over the last couple of days will mean posters are no longer welcome. |  | | |  |
| Another Thread Gone on 17:58 - Jun 27 with 2593 views | Ryorry |
| Another Thread Gone on 17:52 - Jun 27 by GlasgowBlue |
First ban 3 months
Second ban 6 Months
3rd ban 1 year
4th ban, sneaking back on here under a different username whilst banned, and serious abuse, libel etc life ban
Without wanting to open up any debate and cause Phil to delete another thread, Ithink that a lot of fractiousness on here has been low level rather than the vicious nastiness we’ve seen in the past involving libel , posts aimed at peoples family members, homophobia, racism, threats of violence etc. Basically it’s been schoolyard stuff.
I changed an avatar because I knew it would wind a certain poster up. That was childish and wrong. Posters are getting threads removed because they have referred to women as “birds” or “chicks”. Not the sort of language I would use (I have in the past) but really not the sort of thing that people need to trouble admin over just to score a point against another poster.
There have been far too many instances of needless low level sniping of which some of us have been guilty of. Perhaps we could all make an effort to not engage in it or report silly harmless stuff to admin.
Edit. I’ll also throw in using downvotes just because you don’t like a poster. Two posters could make identical posts but you just know that one of those posts is going to be downvoted and not the other simply based in who posted it. Perhaps downvotes could be limited? [Post edited 27 Jun 2024 18:00]
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Huge amount of extra work for Admins in those suggestions, which I think is probably the last thing they want. And I'm guessing it's very difficult to ID people by their IP these days, given mobiles, vpns etc. |  |
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| Another Thread Gone on 18:00 - Jun 27 with 2577 views | eireblue |
Phew, that was close, my recommendation on a summer sandwich survived, I was a tad worried about the vegan mayo reference. |  | | |
| Another Thread Gone on 18:02 - Jun 27 with 2543 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Another Thread Gone on 17:58 - Jun 27 by Ryorry |
Huge amount of extra work for Admins in those suggestions, which I think is probably the last thing they want. And I'm guessing it's very difficult to ID people by their IP these days, given mobiles, vpns etc. |
Hence my previous suggestion of honours mods who have in the past tended to stay above the fray. |  |
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| Another Thread Gone on 18:04 - Jun 27 with 2533 views | Herbivore |
| Another Thread Gone on 18:02 - Jun 27 by GlasgowBlue |
Hence my previous suggestion of honours mods who have in the past tended to stay above the fray. |
I mean, I've offered my services. |  |
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| Well said GB.... on 18:05 - Jun 27 with 2533 views | Bloots |
| Another Thread Gone on 17:52 - Jun 27 by GlasgowBlue |
First ban 3 months
Second ban 6 Months
3rd ban 1 year
4th ban, sneaking back on here under a different username whilst banned, and serious abuse, libel etc life ban
Without wanting to open up any debate and cause Phil to delete another thread, Ithink that a lot of fractiousness on here has been low level rather than the vicious nastiness we’ve seen in the past involving libel , posts aimed at peoples family members, homophobia, racism, threats of violence etc. Basically it’s been schoolyard stuff.
I changed an avatar because I knew it would wind a certain poster up. That was childish and wrong. Posters are getting threads removed because they have referred to women as “birds” or “chicks”. Not the sort of language I would use (I have in the past) but really not the sort of thing that people need to trouble admin over just to score a point against another poster.
There have been far too many instances of needless low level sniping of which some of us have been guilty of. Perhaps we could all make an effort to not engage in it or report silly harmless stuff to admin.
Edit. I’ll also throw in using downvotes just because you don’t like a poster. Two posters could make identical posts but you just know that one of those posts is going to be downvoted and not the other simply based in who posted it. Perhaps downvotes could be limited? [Post edited 27 Jun 2024 18:00]
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....when I used the word "chick" it was entirely tongue in cheek, I didn't think it would escalate like it did.....but I should have expected it really!
I'm really sorry if it offended some of you.
I think people need to try and just ignore members on here that they don't like, if all they can offer is abuse or a downvote. I certainly ignore a handful of posters rather than engage with them and cause arguments.
The ability to not respond shouldn't be too hard, we are all adults.
As GB says, admin should only need to get involved in extreme cases, which thankfully there are very few of now.
Think about it.
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| Another Thread Gone on 18:11 - Jun 27 with 2452 views | SitfcB |
| Another Thread Gone on 18:04 - Jun 27 by Herbivore |
I mean, I've offered my services. |
With your viewpoint on the two bad decisions from referees over the last week I don’t think that is best   |  |
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| Another Thread Gone on 18:12 - Jun 27 with 2445 views | Ryorry |
| Another Thread Gone on 18:02 - Jun 27 by GlasgowBlue |
Hence my previous suggestion of honours mods who have in the past tended to stay above the fray. |
The only poster I can bring to mind who's both around enough & universally respected is Guthers, & I'm not sure he'd want to do it ..? | |
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| Another Thread Gone on 18:27 - Jun 27 with 2396 views | leitrimblue |
| Another Thread Gone on 17:52 - Jun 27 by GlasgowBlue |
First ban 3 months
Second ban 6 Months
3rd ban 1 year
4th ban, sneaking back on here under a different username whilst banned, and serious abuse, libel etc life ban
Without wanting to open up any debate and cause Phil to delete another thread, Ithink that a lot of fractiousness on here has been low level rather than the vicious nastiness we’ve seen in the past involving libel , posts aimed at peoples family members, homophobia, racism, threats of violence etc. Basically it’s been schoolyard stuff.
I changed an avatar because I knew it would wind a certain poster up. That was childish and wrong. Posters are getting threads removed because they have referred to women as “birds” or “chicks”. Not the sort of language I would use (I have in the past) but really not the sort of thing that people need to trouble admin over just to score a point against another poster.
There have been far too many instances of needless low level sniping of which some of us have been guilty of. Perhaps we could all make an effort to not engage in it or report silly harmless stuff to admin.
Edit. I’ll also throw in using downvotes just because you don’t like a poster. Two posters could make identical posts but you just know that one of those posts is going to be downvoted and not the other simply based in who posted it. Perhaps downvotes could be limited? [Post edited 27 Jun 2024 18:00]
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I think yer sorta right that it's low level sniping rather then something darker and more vicious. It just seems to be going around in circles and never ending.
But it's still resulting in admin having to leave whatever their up to in order to referee it.
I also think your correct in suggesting that we should all at least attempt to not engage in the regular low level sniping that many if us have been guilty of in the past |  | | |
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| Another Thread Gone on 18:42 - Jun 27 with 2341 views | witchdoctor |
| Another Thread Gone on 17:45 - Jun 27 by Herbivore |
Thing is, I suspect who you see as being the usual suspects may be different from who others (including Phil potentially) view as being the usual suspects. |
oh well..guess we’ll see…. |  | | |
| Another Thread Gone on 18:50 - Jun 27 with 2322 views | wkj |
| Another Thread Gone on 18:12 - Jun 27 by Ryorry |
The only poster I can bring to mind who's both around enough & universally respected is Guthers, & I'm not sure he'd want to do it ..? |
You need to broaden your horizons, clearly not up to speed with the every present DaveU or myself. |  |
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| Another Thread Gone on 19:14 - Jun 27 with 2250 views | Churchman |
I don’t blame you for being hacked off Phil. It should be possible to hold interesting discussions about most things without it descending it to ITFC supporters having a dig at each other.
I always thought the edit feature was primarily for grammar errors etc. if it comes to it, I’d block the edit function. |  | | |
| Another Thread Gone on 19:24 - Jun 27 with 2213 views | wkj |
| Another Thread Gone on 19:14 - Jun 27 by Churchman |
I don’t blame you for being hacked off Phil. It should be possible to hold interesting discussions about most things without it descending it to ITFC supporters having a dig at each other.
I always thought the edit feature was primarily for grammar errors etc. if it comes to it, I’d block the edit function. |
I agree, the forum is full of b locks lately. Gotta keep those edits at bay [Post edited 27 Jun 2024 19:24]
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| Another Thread Gone on 19:29 - Jun 27 with 2169 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Another Thread Gone on 17:34 - Jun 27 by wkj |
Just go full twitter and get rid of editing, except for those who buy a monthly subscription.
Proactive and makes money. |
I’d go full anti-Titter and disable the embedding of Tweets. 90% of the agro on here stems from people carrying over Twitter arguments.
I’d give Sitters a pass on match days though, so we can still get the lineups. |  |
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| Another Thread Gone on 19:43 - Jun 27 with 2117 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Another Thread Gone on 18:27 - Jun 27 by leitrimblue |
I think yer sorta right that it's low level sniping rather then something darker and more vicious. It just seems to be going around in circles and never ending.
But it's still resulting in admin having to leave whatever their up to in order to referee it.
I also think your correct in suggesting that we should all at least attempt to not engage in the regular low level sniping that many if us have been guilty of in the past |
Basically, quite a few posters have turned into a collective married couple. Constant little digs born out of nothing more than familiarity. | |
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| Another Thread Gone on 19:49 - Jun 27 with 2090 views | vilanovablue |
Having used this board for nearly 27 years it has been particularly toxic of late. We all know the culprits and I think a final warning is generous. This nonsense has been going on for far too long. I'm confident that all of them are old enough to know better as well, it's pathetic at this stage. [Post edited 27 Jun 2024 20:17]
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| Another Thread Gone on 19:57 - Jun 27 with 2052 views | Bigalhunter |
| Another Thread Gone on 17:52 - Jun 27 by GlasgowBlue |
First ban 3 months
Second ban 6 Months
3rd ban 1 year
4th ban, sneaking back on here under a different username whilst banned, and serious abuse, libel etc life ban
Without wanting to open up any debate and cause Phil to delete another thread, Ithink that a lot of fractiousness on here has been low level rather than the vicious nastiness we’ve seen in the past involving libel , posts aimed at peoples family members, homophobia, racism, threats of violence etc. Basically it’s been schoolyard stuff.
I changed an avatar because I knew it would wind a certain poster up. That was childish and wrong. Posters are getting threads removed because they have referred to women as “birds” or “chicks”. Not the sort of language I would use (I have in the past) but really not the sort of thing that people need to trouble admin over just to score a point against another poster.
There have been far too many instances of needless low level sniping of which some of us have been guilty of. Perhaps we could all make an effort to not engage in it or report silly harmless stuff to admin.
Edit. I’ll also throw in using downvotes just because you don’t like a poster. Two posters could make identical posts but you just know that one of those posts is going to be downvoted and not the other simply based in who posted it. Perhaps downvotes could be limited? [Post edited 27 Jun 2024 18:00]
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On the limited downvote proposal, can we pop some meat on that bone?
Could they be carried over like O2 minutes, or would it see an unseemly rush similar to those old time scrambles for last orders in the pub at 10.30? ‘I’ve still got x4 downies to use and they expire in 10 minutes’.
Can you gift them to mates if they’ve blown their load early?
Can you have an extra one if you’ve handed out x10 uppies?
This could run, but I guess it would mean a lot more work for admin… |  |
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| Another Thread Gone on 07:46 - Jun 28 with 1770 views | Churchman |
| Another Thread Gone on 19:57 - Jun 27 by Bigalhunter |
On the limited downvote proposal, can we pop some meat on that bone?
Could they be carried over like O2 minutes, or would it see an unseemly rush similar to those old time scrambles for last orders in the pub at 10.30? ‘I’ve still got x4 downies to use and they expire in 10 minutes’.
Can you gift them to mates if they’ve blown their load early?
Can you have an extra one if you’ve handed out x10 uppies?
This could run, but I guess it would mean a lot more work for admin… |
Keeping this simple, I think the format of the forum is fine. Those who maintain the site do a great job under extreme provocation sometimes.
If it was mine to maintain I might strengthen the rules in that if people are rude, carry over Twitter arguments, harass, bully, belittle, abuse it’s a three month ban first offence, permanent ban second offence. People know full well when they’re over stepping the mark and they do it deliberately in my view.
This forum is here for the benefit of all and is excellent for its variety of stuff in addition to the football. However if individuals feel this is a place for them to impose their will or do any of the first line of this paragraph, this forum is not for them. Toxicity is a word that’s been used and there have been too many incidents of it.
I’ve said many times you don’t have to agree with other contributors. In fact it’s good to see different points of view. It’s part of the point of it. However dopey (in your view) a view might be, disagree but there’s no need to bully or humiliate. I’ve said before, I try to post as if I’m speaking face to face. It is always a good discipline.
In conclusion the administrators need our support, not extra work. If people only want to play by their rules, TWTD is not for them and a ban is the only real option. | | | |
| Another Thread Gone on 08:26 - Jun 28 with 1705 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Another Thread Gone on 07:46 - Jun 28 by Churchman |
Keeping this simple, I think the format of the forum is fine. Those who maintain the site do a great job under extreme provocation sometimes.
If it was mine to maintain I might strengthen the rules in that if people are rude, carry over Twitter arguments, harass, bully, belittle, abuse it’s a three month ban first offence, permanent ban second offence. People know full well when they’re over stepping the mark and they do it deliberately in my view.
This forum is here for the benefit of all and is excellent for its variety of stuff in addition to the football. However if individuals feel this is a place for them to impose their will or do any of the first line of this paragraph, this forum is not for them. Toxicity is a word that’s been used and there have been too many incidents of it.
I’ve said many times you don’t have to agree with other contributors. In fact it’s good to see different points of view. It’s part of the point of it. However dopey (in your view) a view might be, disagree but there’s no need to bully or humiliate. I’ve said before, I try to post as if I’m speaking face to face. It is always a good discipline.
In conclusion the administrators need our support, not extra work. If people only want to play by their rules, TWTD is not for them and a ban is the only real option. |
Agree - no need to reinvent the wheel.
It’s pretty simple - just don’t be a d1ckhead. |  | | |
| Another Thread Gone on 08:38 - Jun 28 with 1674 views | Swailsey |
Phil just ban them. You have to do one of these posts every week. Ban certain members for a month. It’s worked with others. |  |
| Who said: "Colin Healy made Cesc Fabregas look like Colin Healy"? | We miss you TLA |
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| Another Thread Gone on 11:34 - Jun 28 with 1476 views | Herbivore |
| Another Thread Gone on 08:38 - Jun 28 by Swailsey |
Phil just ban them. You have to do one of these posts every week. Ban certain members for a month. It’s worked with others. |
Three threads removed in 24 hours and all three threads involved some of the same posters engaged in the same behaviour across those threads. There's a pattern. I'm sure that pattern is unlikely to be tolerated much longer. | |
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| Another Thread Gone on 11:42 - Jun 28 with 1425 views | leitrimblue |
| Another Thread Gone on 19:43 - Jun 27 by Swansea_Blue |
Basically, quite a few posters have turned into a collective married couple. Constant little digs born out of nothing more than familiarity. |
Yer think we just gonna have to face up to the fact that mum an dad hate each other and all us kids are going into care.
Too harsh? | | | |
| Another Thread Gone on 12:36 - Jun 28 with 1341 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| Another Thread Gone on 11:34 - Jun 28 by Herbivore |
Three threads removed in 24 hours and all three threads involved some of the same posters engaged in the same behaviour across those threads. There's a pattern. I'm sure that pattern is unlikely to be tolerated much longer. |
I'm sure Gav can get some sort of AI/Minority Report thing going on threads which pre-warns them if a thread is likely to spiral out of control! |  |
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| Another Thread Gone on 12:37 - Jun 28 with 1339 views | Herbivore |
| Another Thread Gone on 12:36 - Jun 28 by Ewan_Oozami |
I'm sure Gav can get some sort of AI/Minority Report thing going on threads which pre-warns them if a thread is likely to spiral out of control! |
Think this one will be flashing amber on his dashboard. | |
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| Another Thread Gone on 13:19 - Jun 28 with 1249 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| Another Thread Gone on 12:37 - Jun 28 by Herbivore |
Think this one will be flashing amber on his dashboard. |
Definitely need an upgrade for Phil's naughty words filter at the very least! :-)
Then again, imagine training a LLM on posts from this forum - global energy consumption will increase by at least 5% !!! | |
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