| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? 21:30 - Aug 11 with 7017 views | itfc1108 |
They are much more advanced in their recruitment, in that they can scout and find, , a Columbian and an Argentinean international, and now not need them anymore or at the moment. Yet promoted teams do want them. |  | | |  |
| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 21:39 - Aug 11 with 5665 views | Illinoisblue |
They have 8 years of prem existence (and money) behind them so their network and contacts will be way more advanced than a club who were in L1 two years ago. Have to assume our scouting efforts will at some point expand into Europe and beyond. |  |
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| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 21:43 - Aug 11 with 5590 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 21:39 - Aug 11 by Illinoisblue |
They have 8 years of prem existence (and money) behind them so their network and contacts will be way more advanced than a club who were in L1 two years ago. Have to assume our scouting efforts will at some point expand into Europe and beyond. |
Should have been started 3 years ago. Didn't buy it last summer that there was never a need to. If the club had everything being done to prem standard since the take over then that should have included recruitment. The fact we don't even had a head of recruitment doesn't sit right for me either.
But no. We don't compare with Brighton in anyway they are more established. KM has the potential to do great things here but Ashton needs to start showing why KM signing an extension with us was the right thing to do. |  |
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| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 21:45 - Aug 11 with 5551 views | BlueNomad |
| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 21:43 - Aug 11 by FrimleyBlue |
Should have been started 3 years ago. Didn't buy it last summer that there was never a need to. If the club had everything being done to prem standard since the take over then that should have included recruitment. The fact we don't even had a head of recruitment doesn't sit right for me either.
But no. We don't compare with Brighton in anyway they are more established. KM has the potential to do great things here but Ashton needs to start showing why KM signing an extension with us was the right thing to do. |
How do you know that by the end of August we might not have what we need? |  | | |
| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 21:48 - Aug 11 with 5496 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 21:45 - Aug 11 by BlueNomad |
How do you know that by the end of August we might not have what we need? |
We may. At the moment we don't. | |
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| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 22:03 - Aug 11 with 5337 views | ReusersTown |
| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 21:43 - Aug 11 by FrimleyBlue |
Should have been started 3 years ago. Didn't buy it last summer that there was never a need to. If the club had everything being done to prem standard since the take over then that should have included recruitment. The fact we don't even had a head of recruitment doesn't sit right for me either.
But no. We don't compare with Brighton in anyway they are more established. KM has the potential to do great things here but Ashton needs to start showing why KM signing an extension with us was the right thing to do. |
Hilarious. What an absolutely stupid thing to say! You didn't "buy into" it that it wasn't needed last summer. Did you forget that we were subsequently promoted on a budget probably 1/50th of the teams that we were promoted against without that network? Just lol | | | |
| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 22:10 - Aug 11 with 5204 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 22:03 - Aug 11 by ReusersTown |
Hilarious. What an absolutely stupid thing to say! You didn't "buy into" it that it wasn't needed last summer. Did you forget that we were subsequently promoted on a budget probably 1/50th of the teams that we were promoted against without that network? Just lol |
Not at all as It was about having a scouting network set up abroad and being ready to use and when needed. Which was my argument last summer and the one before.
Had we had one in place in good time then this very fast paced promotion to the prem could have been supported further with a scouting network abroad raring to go.
Why is it more needed now than ever? Because as people point out its hard to attract certain players because of our tag of being just promoted and likely to go down. However to many players abroad it can be an attractive move as it gets their feet into the prem. You've also got reduced fees compared to English tax signings. [Post edited 11 Aug 2024 22:11]
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| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 22:14 - Aug 11 with 5141 views | GlasgowBlue |
Yes. I don't think people realised how far ahead in the Premier League journey that Brighton are. |  |
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| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 22:16 - Aug 11 with 5112 views | cressi |
I'm sure he got assurances from the top brass now up to the club to deliver or he could cut a frustrated figure. | | | |
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| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 22:17 - Aug 11 with 5098 views | ReusersTown |
| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 22:10 - Aug 11 by FrimleyBlue |
Not at all as It was about having a scouting network set up abroad and being ready to use and when needed. Which was my argument last summer and the one before.
Had we had one in place in good time then this very fast paced promotion to the prem could have been supported further with a scouting network abroad raring to go.
Why is it more needed now than ever? Because as people point out its hard to attract certain players because of our tag of being just promoted and likely to go down. However to many players abroad it can be an attractive move as it gets their feet into the prem. You've also got reduced fees compared to English tax signings. [Post edited 11 Aug 2024 22:11]
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I don't need the benefits of a scouting system explained to me thanks. We've basically achieved a miracle with the scouting system we have in place and choices made and you're complaining that it wasn't done 3 years ago. It clearly wasn't needed as evidenced by the fact we actually flipping got promoted. You also have no idea of the cost or logistics of setting a global scouting network up, so to just flippantly throw in that they haven't done enough is just typically frimley really | | | |
| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 22:19 - Aug 11 with 5051 views | Mullet |
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| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 22:21 - Aug 11 with 5015 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 22:17 - Aug 11 by ReusersTown |
I don't need the benefits of a scouting system explained to me thanks. We've basically achieved a miracle with the scouting system we have in place and choices made and you're complaining that it wasn't done 3 years ago. It clearly wasn't needed as evidenced by the fact we actually flipping got promoted. You also have no idea of the cost or logistics of setting a global scouting network up, so to just flippantly throw in that they haven't done enough is just typically frimley really |
Don't know why you're saying it wasn't needed. That's not the argument here. I had that chat last summer.
It's about having it built up and ready to be used when needed like it appears to be required now.
But don't worry I know it's not a positive glow so it's not a an acceptable view to hold. | |
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| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 22:24 - Aug 11 with 4985 views | WicklowBlue |
| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 21:43 - Aug 11 by FrimleyBlue |
Should have been started 3 years ago. Didn't buy it last summer that there was never a need to. If the club had everything being done to prem standard since the take over then that should have included recruitment. The fact we don't even had a head of recruitment doesn't sit right for me either.
But no. We don't compare with Brighton in anyway they are more established. KM has the potential to do great things here but Ashton needs to start showing why KM signing an extension with us was the right thing to do. |
"Should have been started 3 years ago."
"If the club had everything being done to prem standard since the take over then that should have included recruitment."
Seriously Frimmers please think about what you are saying. We've had an unbelievable accession to the Prem that none of us including you would have predicted. Let's just enjoy the ride eh? Rather than belittling the efforts that got us out of L1. |  | | |
| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 22:27 - Aug 11 with 4928 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 22:24 - Aug 11 by WicklowBlue |
"Should have been started 3 years ago."
"If the club had everything being done to prem standard since the take over then that should have included recruitment."
Seriously Frimmers please think about what you are saying. We've had an unbelievable accession to the Prem that none of us including you would have predicted. Let's just enjoy the ride eh? Rather than belittling the efforts that got us out of L1. |
No belittling here. | |
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| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 22:32 - Aug 11 with 4896 views | Churchman |
| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 22:21 - Aug 11 by FrimleyBlue |
Don't know why you're saying it wasn't needed. That's not the argument here. I had that chat last summer.
It's about having it built up and ready to be used when needed like it appears to be required now.
But don't worry I know it's not a positive glow so it's not a an acceptable view to hold. |
So the first thing GC20 should have done in L1 is set up an international scouting network. Presumably in addition to one in the U.K. that Evans had binned, a receptionist, lightbulbs and maybe built a media centre, camera points for 46 PL cameras, pitch, floodlights, safe standing and a new training ground. Wow, some workload and certainty that we’d make the PL first time of asking.
You also said last summer that Burgess was absolute pony and should be replaced before a ball was kicked.
Time to take a break. |  | | |
| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 22:35 - Aug 11 with 4835 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 22:32 - Aug 11 by Churchman |
So the first thing GC20 should have done in L1 is set up an international scouting network. Presumably in addition to one in the U.K. that Evans had binned, a receptionist, lightbulbs and maybe built a media centre, camera points for 46 PL cameras, pitch, floodlights, safe standing and a new training ground. Wow, some workload and certainty that we’d make the PL first time of asking.
You also said last summer that Burgess was absolute pony and should be replaced before a ball was kicked.
Time to take a break. |
Not sure what Burgess has to do with a scouting network. But erm thanks for bringing him up? I hope you remind the many others who didn't see him as championship quality. I look forward to seeing it.
But no. I didn't say the first thing either. But erm thanks | |
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| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 23:02 - Aug 11 with 4533 views | ReusersTown |
| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 22:21 - Aug 11 by FrimleyBlue |
Don't know why you're saying it wasn't needed. That's not the argument here. I had that chat last summer.
It's about having it built up and ready to be used when needed like it appears to be required now.
But don't worry I know it's not a positive glow so it's not a an acceptable view to hold. |
It's a tw*tish glow, not based in the real world, with little to no knowledge or common sense behind it. Ermmm we didn't need it as we clearly managed to get promoted without it, this now have the resources to invest further should it be deemed necessary. That is without the rumoured characteristic outlined by McKenna that he wanted UK based players (or with experience of) for purposes of cohesion. | | | |
| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 23:03 - Aug 11 with 4520 views | davblue |
| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 22:10 - Aug 11 by FrimleyBlue |
Not at all as It was about having a scouting network set up abroad and being ready to use and when needed. Which was my argument last summer and the one before.
Had we had one in place in good time then this very fast paced promotion to the prem could have been supported further with a scouting network abroad raring to go.
Why is it more needed now than ever? Because as people point out its hard to attract certain players because of our tag of being just promoted and likely to go down. However to many players abroad it can be an attractive move as it gets their feet into the prem. You've also got reduced fees compared to English tax signings. [Post edited 11 Aug 2024 22:11]
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In league 1 and the championship would the cost have outweighed the benefit at that point? Plus bringing in foreign players isn’t quite as easy as it used to be.
It’s obviously something that we do need to improve on, to get a bit more value make our money go as far as it can but bringing in a load of foreign players this summer would be risky, as has our current purchase strategy. |  | | |
| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 23:28 - Aug 11 with 4335 views | gosblue |
| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 21:43 - Aug 11 by FrimleyBlue |
Should have been started 3 years ago. Didn't buy it last summer that there was never a need to. If the club had everything being done to prem standard since the take over then that should have included recruitment. The fact we don't even had a head of recruitment doesn't sit right for me either.
But no. We don't compare with Brighton in anyway they are more established. KM has the potential to do great things here but Ashton needs to start showing why KM signing an extension with us was the right thing to do. |
I am more concerned about the lack of youngsters coming through. There are signs of improvement but I’m not holding my breath. We have invested millions of pounds in our academy over the years, surely it’s time to reap the rewards I expect better under the current regime. | | | |
| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 23:40 - Aug 11 with 4239 views | Stewart27 |
| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 21:43 - Aug 11 by FrimleyBlue |
Should have been started 3 years ago. Didn't buy it last summer that there was never a need to. If the club had everything being done to prem standard since the take over then that should have included recruitment. The fact we don't even had a head of recruitment doesn't sit right for me either.
But no. We don't compare with Brighton in anyway they are more established. KM has the potential to do great things here but Ashton needs to start showing why KM signing an extension with us was the right thing to do. |
Jesus wept. | | | |
| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 00:00 - Aug 12 with 4160 views | stiff_talking |
| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 23:40 - Aug 11 by Stewart27 |
Jesus wept. |
The bigger issue is players wanting to come to Ipswich.
There have been fantastic efforts to bring players in that have only failed due to player preference.
This is not fault of anyone at the club right now. It will take time to cement an image of a long term to permanent Premier Club. | | | |
| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 06:38 - Aug 12 with 3514 views | PioneerBlue |
| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 22:21 - Aug 11 by FrimleyBlue |
Don't know why you're saying it wasn't needed. That's not the argument here. I had that chat last summer.
It's about having it built up and ready to be used when needed like it appears to be required now.
But don't worry I know it's not a positive glow so it's not a an acceptable view to hold. |
You’ve inadvertently answered your own question but given the speed we’ve progressed it’s clearly not prohibiting to this point in time.
1) no team in L1 nor championship team without parachute payments can afford to have an over-seas scouting network that’s worth having to only lay dormant in the event that they one day need it,
2) had they identified a target the likelihood of us having the costly infrastructure in place and fees available to bring and integrate successfully were low to zero.
Today it’s a different story, but even then it’s time and moment. KMcK has been prioritizing players brought up in and under British coaching system. [Post edited 12 Aug 2024 22:00]
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| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 06:59 - Aug 12 with 3429 views | ibbleobble |
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| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 07:18 - Aug 12 with 3348 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 21:43 - Aug 11 by FrimleyBlue |
Should have been started 3 years ago. Didn't buy it last summer that there was never a need to. If the club had everything being done to prem standard since the take over then that should have included recruitment. The fact we don't even had a head of recruitment doesn't sit right for me either.
But no. We don't compare with Brighton in anyway they are more established. KM has the potential to do great things here but Ashton needs to start showing why KM signing an extension with us was the right thing to do. |
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| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 07:53 - Aug 12 with 3128 views | backwaywhen |
And of course you know he considered them ? | | | |
| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 08:03 - Aug 12 with 3057 views | Dyland |
| Does this window show why McKenna considered Brighton? on 21:43 - Aug 11 by FrimleyBlue |
Should have been started 3 years ago. Didn't buy it last summer that there was never a need to. If the club had everything being done to prem standard since the take over then that should have included recruitment. The fact we don't even had a head of recruitment doesn't sit right for me either.
But no. We don't compare with Brighton in anyway they are more established. KM has the potential to do great things here but Ashton needs to start showing why KM signing an extension with us was the right thing to do. |
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