| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? 01:29 - Aug 31 with 6358 views | Matt_Netherlands |
Not being over dramatic at all, but to McKenna this must feel like the first time Ashton hasn’t got a really key signing over the line for us.
Won’t lie, I’m really concerned to only really have Delap as our only premier league standard striker at the club for the next few weeks at least. Having Al Hamadi come off the bench on the 60/70 minute mark massively weakens us.
I find it really hard to knock Ashton after everything him and his team have done, but only signing one striker all summer is really, really poor and that can’t be dressed up. |  | | |  |
| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 01:35 - Aug 31 with 4698 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
We tried, really hard, but the guy we wanted wasn't fit when we were led to believe he was. Another guy we liked we put a huge bid in for but he didn't want to come here. The other names quoted we didn't want to pay the fees for/clubs did not want to let go, because we didn't think it is value for money or they quoted big fees.
I feel like there is a middle ground in which, signing good strikers is just a tough thing to do in football atm. So those saying, it is disappointing not have an other body in are probably correct. But I think this idea that Ashton has let McKenna down, or McKenna must be unhappy with Ashton, are very much OTT. Transfer windows are tough, especially as a newly promoted team, McKenna knows that. |  |
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| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 01:43 - Aug 31 with 4676 views | Illinoisblue |
Football fans are never happy, part 367 (special episode where newly promoted side spend over 100million to get three of the best young players in the county in Omari, Jack Clarke and Greaves. Oh and a recent England international. And a Swedish international) |  |
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| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 01:50 - Aug 31 with 4648 views | Matt_Netherlands |
| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 01:43 - Aug 31 by Illinoisblue |
Football fans are never happy, part 367 (special episode where newly promoted side spend over 100million to get three of the best young players in the county in Omari, Jack Clarke and Greaves. Oh and a recent England international. And a Swedish international) |
Well make that McKenna unhappy too because he’s said in public (which is rare for him) that we were trying to bring in a striker.
Also yeah we’ve signed good players and spent a lot, but you can’t deny we’re now weak in a very very important position. Your comparison is like going shopping and saying “Dammit I couldn’t buy any chicken, but that’s ok because I’ve bought an absolute ton of sausages.” | | | |
| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 02:04 - Aug 31 with 4598 views | Ryorry |
"I find it really hard to knock Ashton after everything him and his team have done, but ..."
You went out of your way to knock him anyway, despite not knowing what went on behind the scenes.
A few people on this forum really have lost their grip over the past few hours. |  |
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| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 02:14 - Aug 31 with 4578 views | BonchosBicycle |
I don't think it's the end of the world. Not ideal, but we've brought in a lot of good players this window and we've long been a team that doesn't rely on a 25 goal a year striker to get the goals. |  | | |
| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 02:16 - Aug 31 with 4573 views | Matt_Netherlands |
| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 02:04 - Aug 31 by Ryorry |
"I find it really hard to knock Ashton after everything him and his team have done, but ..."
You went out of your way to knock him anyway, despite not knowing what went on behind the scenes.
A few people on this forum really have lost their grip over the past few hours. |
We’ve known for a month now that we need a striker. Things change and move a lot close to the deadline, but it’s been an obvious area of weakness for weeks now. Compounded by a player we’ve had in the building, signing for what will in reality end up being a relegation rival.
I really don’t think that being disappointed about getting such a key player in the door constitutes “losing our grip.”
This is a football forum and we’ve waited 20+ years to be here. We’re allowed to be concerned when things happen which might jeopardise what we’ve waited so long for.
I’m off to do some shopping… https://thegripshop.co.uk/ | | | |
| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 02:20 - Aug 31 with 4560 views | Matt_Netherlands |
| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 02:14 - Aug 31 by BonchosBicycle |
I don't think it's the end of the world. Not ideal, but we've brought in a lot of good players this window and we've long been a team that doesn't rely on a 25 goal a year striker to get the goals. |
We don’t rely on a striker to get 25 goals admittedly, but our four main strikers chipped in with 20 league goals last season and 26 the year before so it is still somewhere where we look for goals to come from. | | | |
| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 02:21 - Aug 31 with 4553 views | Illinoisblue |
| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 01:50 - Aug 31 by Matt_Netherlands |
Well make that McKenna unhappy too because he’s said in public (which is rare for him) that we were trying to bring in a striker.
Also yeah we’ve signed good players and spent a lot, but you can’t deny we’re now weak in a very very important position. Your comparison is like going shopping and saying “Dammit I couldn’t buy any chicken, but that’s ok because I’ve bought an absolute ton of sausages.” |
But framing it as Ashton letting down KM is simplistic at best. You or I have no clue as to what the negotiations were, how much was being demanded in wages, how long of a contract was being asked for . Or, crucially, what other deals were or weren’t happening to set off the buying chain.
I’ve seen the window described by more than one fan as a disaster and that’s the most insane thing I’ve ever read . | |
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| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 02:31 - Aug 31 with 4511 views | Matt_Netherlands |
| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 02:21 - Aug 31 by Illinoisblue |
But framing it as Ashton letting down KM is simplistic at best. You or I have no clue as to what the negotiations were, how much was being demanded in wages, how long of a contract was being asked for . Or, crucially, what other deals were or weren’t happening to set off the buying chain.
I’ve seen the window described by more than one fan as a disaster and that’s the most insane thing I’ve ever read . |
A disaster is an understatement. It’s been an absolute farce and we should all be disgusted at the lack of additions we’ve made.
Clearly I’m joking, but not getting a striker in is disappointing and we all know that McKenna will be feeling that too, regardless of what he tells the media. | | | |
| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 03:03 - Aug 31 with 4447 views | urbanblue |
Has it occurred to you that it may have been kMc who ultimately made the decision? |  | | |
| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 03:04 - Aug 31 with 4437 views | mellowblue |
I am guessing Szmodics will be used as cover also |  | | |
| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 05:52 - Aug 31 with 4131 views | ElephantintheRoom |
Ipswich player plays for Ipswich shock horror
You’re forgetting Hirst. And given a chance the carp fisherman might be quite good.
Maybe Ashton feels McKenna might actually manage on his £5 million. | |
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| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 05:53 - Aug 31 with 4147 views | tractorboy1978 |
| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 03:03 - Aug 31 by urbanblue |
Has it occurred to you that it may have been kMc who ultimately made the decision? |
Was just about to post this. McKenna might act like he’s out of the loop when asked about players but he is intrinsically involved in transfer decisions. He would certainly have been involved in walking away from the Broja deal last night. | | | |
| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 05:56 - Aug 31 with 4141 views | WonTheCupin78 |
Personally feel Szmodics may be asked to play up front for the time being. Not a bad option, given he was Championship top scorer last season. | | | |
| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 06:30 - Aug 31 with 3960 views | BlueOura |
| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 01:35 - Aug 31 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
We tried, really hard, but the guy we wanted wasn't fit when we were led to believe he was. Another guy we liked we put a huge bid in for but he didn't want to come here. The other names quoted we didn't want to pay the fees for/clubs did not want to let go, because we didn't think it is value for money or they quoted big fees.
I feel like there is a middle ground in which, signing good strikers is just a tough thing to do in football atm. So those saying, it is disappointing not have an other body in are probably correct. But I think this idea that Ashton has let McKenna down, or McKenna must be unhappy with Ashton, are very much OTT. Transfer windows are tough, especially as a newly promoted team, McKenna knows that. |
We could have signed Edouard on loan who would at least have given us experienced cover, even if he was far from our first choice.
We could have signed Broja on the same terms Everton managed, and while not ideal with the injury we would at least have had cover on the horizon.
I don't think we can pretend that having AAH as our second choice number 9 for the next month or so is anything other than hugely disappointing at this stage, |  | | |
| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 06:35 - Aug 31 with 3924 views | Wickets |
Oh my God ! |  | | |
| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 06:42 - Aug 31 with 3828 views | NeedhamChris |
| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 05:53 - Aug 31 by tractorboy1978 |
Was just about to post this. McKenna might act like he’s out of the loop when asked about players but he is intrinsically involved in transfer decisions. He would certainly have been involved in walking away from the Broja deal last night. |
He probably was, on the understanding we would get Nelson across the line. | |
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| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 06:52 - Aug 31 with 3773 views | tractorboy1978 |
| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 06:42 - Aug 31 by NeedhamChris |
He probably was, on the understanding we would get Nelson across the line. |
Sounds like the player decided to go to Fulham at the last minute. Not really a lot you can do about that and arguably as much on McKenna as it is Ashton. This is the reality of competing against established PL clubs. | | | |
| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 06:52 - Aug 31 with 3767 views | PioneerBlue |
That is a big over statement of the unknown written as fact. What you write in the OP isn’t a million miles from an opinion worth engaging with but it’s spoilt by the headline. | |
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| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 07:02 - Aug 31 with 3710 views | Help |
So you would rather we get anyone in for the sake of it regardless of whether it is the right thing for the club or not.
Or maybe you would then moan that we bought a player we should not have and wasted money.
Which do you want?
It is not like we have not tried to get numerous strikers to come to the club, but for whatever reason that has not happened. |  |
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| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 07:11 - Aug 31 with 3630 views | norfsufblue |
| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 01:50 - Aug 31 by Matt_Netherlands |
Well make that McKenna unhappy too because he’s said in public (which is rare for him) that we were trying to bring in a striker.
Also yeah we’ve signed good players and spent a lot, but you can’t deny we’re now weak in a very very important position. Your comparison is like going shopping and saying “Dammit I couldn’t buy any chicken, but that’s ok because I’ve bought an absolute ton of sausages.” |
Tbf I'd love that... sick to death of chicken, but absolutely love a banger! |  | | |
| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 07:19 - Aug 31 with 3567 views | MK1 |
The first time Ashton let McKenna down was when he ordered him a medium/rare stake at the Bernie Inn. McKenna wanted rare. McKenna was absolutely raging. The waiting staff said they heard McKenna say, "that's it, I'm going to Brighton". What they didn't realise, was that McKenna had already booked a 3 night stay in Brighton for him and his family.
Moral of the story.
Things aren't always as they seem. |  |
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| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 07:20 - Aug 31 with 3552 views | Blue_Heath |
Seriously we have spent a fortune and literally upgraded an entire team. Broja was a huge gamble and not sure he wanted to be here anyway. RN has a poor goal scoring record, Delap/Szmodics, a returning Hirst and a return to full fitness for AAH may surpise a few, his goals per minute ratio is incredible. | | | |
| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 07:26 - Aug 31 with 3496 views | USA |
I’m not sure it will be annoyance at Ashton on a personal front, but I suspect he’ll be absolutely gutted we weren’t able to bring someone in. Hirst will do well I think, but an injury to either him or Delap were up the creek without a paddle | |
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| This must be the first time McKenna is let down by Ashton? on 07:34 - Aug 31 with 3393 views | Whos_blue |
Ashton let KM down?
In what way?
This window has seen some players join we could previously never have dreamed would pull on the blue shirt.
It's no secret to anybody - fans, KM, Ashton - that we're a little light up front.
But that also has to be considered alongside the longstanding policy that KM has never wanted to rely on a no 9 to be the sole goal scorer. He's always deployed a front 4. That's the way we play.
It's unfathomable how we could arrive at a conclusion that Ashton, who has backed KM every step of the way, has somehow let him down.
Do we not think that Ashton tried everything to get the right deal over the line?
I say the right deal deliberately. We're seeing names being suggested "we could've got this player in" "we could've got that player in", but that's not how we do business these days. It always has to be the right player, not just someone to fill a squad place.
I genuinely do understand how we might feel a little deflated after a subdued final day, but we must keep some context around the whole window.
And to suggest that Ashton has somehow let us down is unfair.
To use a Philism, it's wide of the mark. Very wide. [Post edited 31 Aug 2024 7:55]
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