| Is it possible at this early stage to see the prem side in town.. 17:20 - Sep 2 with 3185 views | FrimleyBlue |
Watching various prem games and looking over some highlights to, I see alot of comparable qualities in our side against the established mid prem clubs compared to the likes of the Leicester and Southampton who look every much of a side that's just got promoted.
We've got a way to go before we see the KM ipswich football in an attacking sense coming through weekly that comes with partnerships and understanding runs etc. But organisationally we seem even at this early stage of the season to have the Modern prem football nailed down its just the execution.
I think this is why minus the mad 5 minutes at city. We've adapted incredibly quickly to the shapes of prem sides.
I mentioned it on Saturday too but you could easily witness the change in game management compared to the Liverpool home fixture in such a way that on 60 mintj3s we were pressing them high up the pitch as we had managed our physical boundaries well and managed the game exactly how you needed to to see the game through until the time came for subs.
I maybe going quick here. But I've been impressed with the speed in which we have adapted.
It won't be seen by non town fans imo as they don't have an interest in anything other than the end result. But when you dissect our games ( Wimbledon aside ) you see the foundations of a solid premierleague outfit.
The next month is important on the attacking front. We were one of the worst on the weekend for touches in the opponents penalty box. As KM said we had some dangerous phases of play without creating a chance from them.. it will come and it'll be exciting when it all comes together.
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| Is it possible at this early stage to see the prem side in town.. on 17:56 - Sep 2 with 3026 views | Illinoisblue |
Too early. Going to need 10 games to get a sense of where we’re at. Saturday was definitely encouraging. Omari, Jack, Szmodics and Delap are going to cause damage. And we still have Burns, Broady and Hirst to come back. |  |
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| Is it possible at this early stage to see the prem side in town.. on 21:07 - Sep 2 with 2783 views | NthQldITFC |
We'll need to keep doing it and adapting our energy management on a per game basis, but we did it very well against Fulham. That's really no surprise given the experience and evident supreme football intelligence of our manager.
If he can quickly get the new lads working like a finely tuned machine as he did with the L1/Champ team (and there's plenty of evidence to suggest that that's well underway) then the McKenna factor compared with a Martin or Maresco type manager gets us an extra 8 or 10 points a season I reckon. |  |
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| Is it possible at this early stage to see the prem side in town.. on 07:22 - Sep 3 with 2365 views | USA |
How much of Leicester and Southampton have you seen? Just wonder if you’re doing to them what you say opposition fans will do to us. Judge the results? |  | | |
| Is it possible at this early stage to see the prem side in town.. on 07:40 - Sep 3 with 2314 views | TractorWood |
I think an established mid Prem side would have battered Fulham at home. |  |
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| Is it possible at this early stage to see the prem side in town.. on 07:51 - Sep 3 with 2270 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Is it possible at this early stage to see the prem side in town.. on 07:40 - Sep 3 by TractorWood |
I think an established mid Prem side would have battered Fulham at home. |
Suppose. Utd did batter them 1-0. | |
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| Is it possible at this early stage to see the prem side in town.. on 08:18 - Sep 3 with 2139 views | RobTheMonk |
It's hard to say when you start the season against Liverpool who look excellent under their new manager (Gravenbach looks like a new player this season) and Man City who are an established team of winners with some of the best players in world football.
The Wimbledon game was a nothing game really and to be honest, not being in that cup might benefit us long term.
Fulham - we were decent.
The performance trajectory has gone up and I hope it continues to with new players starting to know each others games and what's required of them. |  | | |
| Is it possible at this early stage to see the prem side in town.. on 08:31 - Sep 3 with 2086 views | unbelievablue |
| Is it possible at this early stage to see the prem side in town.. on 17:56 - Sep 2 by Illinoisblue |
Too early. Going to need 10 games to get a sense of where we’re at. Saturday was definitely encouraging. Omari, Jack, Szmodics and Delap are going to cause damage. And we still have Burns, Broady and Hirst to come back. |
Agree too early but would be happy to stake my claim to survival now, even at this stage. McKenna was no stranger to prem football with his previous coaching. |  |
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| Is it possible at this early stage to see the prem side in town.. on 08:52 - Sep 3 with 1993 views | Churchman |
An interesting question. The answer for me is that it’s a bit too soon. The first two games: forget it. Liverpool and MC are light years ahead of all bar Arsenal. League Cup game? Annoying but irrelevant. Add in 12 signings, departures, injuries and the sheer chasm in quality between the Championship and PL, what is there to go on?
The Fulham game. The opposition were huge, quick, well organised, powerful, savvy. They’ll finish mid table so represent a good benchmark. How did we measure up? For me, well. We grew into the game. I saw signs of adjustment to the pace of the PL. Of partnerships beginning to form. I saw players beginning to learn where each other are.
I saw one or two of last years players coming to terms with a higher level, particularly Woolfenden, Hutchinson (my god he’s a good player) and the over-maligned Davis who has had to cope with some top players. I didn’t see Mo Salah and co faring too badly against Man Utd’s multi million pound players.
Above all, I saw in the new players an ability level higher than most of what we already had and considerably higher than those we let go. The big question is how well they’ll knit together and how will we look when key players Hirst, Broadhead and Burns are fit?
As it stands, I can see a competitive team forming. How we are going to play is obvious. As before only better. A concern? We will need another forward in the next transfer window if we can find one. Other than that, obviously we are not going to compete with the top sides, but see indications that we can be competitive with more than the bottom half dozen.
I’ve tried to be objective based on what I saw Saturday but this view may of course be hope overruling reality. |  | | |
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| Is it possible at this early stage to see the prem side in town.. on 08:58 - Sep 3 with 1959 views | BloomBlue |
Goals is key, as I've often quoted, Sir Alex always said the only stat which really matters is goals scored versus goals conceded.
We're gradually improving, not sure if we're that far ahead of Leicester & Southampton. S'ton possession stats have been amazing (apparently) in their first 3 games, retaining the ball much more than the opposition but only scored 1 goal. Martin could also change that and they could start moving up the table
The promoted teams have played 9 games now and not a single win between them yet. I've not seen the stats but someone claimed that's only happened 4 times in the Prem. I will admit I questioned that as it doesn't sound correct.
I also don't think you can ignore the 2nd half against Liverpool, Slot made a couple of simple changes at HT to target the weak areas he had identified and Liverpool started to overrun us.
It is a learning curve, but it's a learning curve for many teams. We do need to improve that final ball, Hutch to Ogbene on Saturday being a perfect example, when another player is in a better position use them.
One issue I have is at the moment too many players are coming inside and we're not stretching teams. Not sure if it's deliberate from KM or the players we have now prefer to do that. But sometimes we need to go wide and stretch their defence. If you keep coming inside it becomes crowded and makes it easier for the defenders to stop the ball getting into the penalty area. Burns will help with that when he returns as he hugs the line. |  | | |
| Is it possible at this early stage to see the prem side in town.. on 15:52 - Sep 3 with 1666 views | ElephantintheRoom |
Signing a dozen mercenaries amortised over the next 5 years - I’d say Town are already every inc a Premier League club. Signing so many with relegation experience - what could possibly go wrong? | |
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| Is it possible at this early stage to see the prem side in town.. on 17:09 - Sep 3 with 1578 views | WestSussexBlue |
We also appear to be incredibly fit and our pre season work under the coaches is already paying dividends. | | | |
| Is it possible at this early stage to see the prem side in town.. on 17:13 - Sep 3 with 1555 views | Churchman |
| Is it possible at this early stage to see the prem side in town.. on 15:52 - Sep 3 by ElephantintheRoom |
Signing a dozen mercenaries amortised over the next 5 years - I’d say Town are already every inc a Premier League club. Signing so many with relegation experience - what could possibly go wrong? |
A stadium full of miserable people claiming to follow Ipswich Town but never have a good word to say about it? | | | |
| Is it possible at this early stage to see the prem side in town.. on 17:33 - Sep 3 with 1503 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Is it possible at this early stage to see the prem side in town.. on 08:58 - Sep 3 by BloomBlue |
Goals is key, as I've often quoted, Sir Alex always said the only stat which really matters is goals scored versus goals conceded.
We're gradually improving, not sure if we're that far ahead of Leicester & Southampton. S'ton possession stats have been amazing (apparently) in their first 3 games, retaining the ball much more than the opposition but only scored 1 goal. Martin could also change that and they could start moving up the table
The promoted teams have played 9 games now and not a single win between them yet. I've not seen the stats but someone claimed that's only happened 4 times in the Prem. I will admit I questioned that as it doesn't sound correct.
I also don't think you can ignore the 2nd half against Liverpool, Slot made a couple of simple changes at HT to target the weak areas he had identified and Liverpool started to overrun us.
It is a learning curve, but it's a learning curve for many teams. We do need to improve that final ball, Hutch to Ogbene on Saturday being a perfect example, when another player is in a better position use them.
One issue I have is at the moment too many players are coming inside and we're not stretching teams. Not sure if it's deliberate from KM or the players we have now prefer to do that. But sometimes we need to go wide and stretch their defence. If you keep coming inside it becomes crowded and makes it easier for the defenders to stop the ball getting into the penalty area. Burns will help with that when he returns as he hugs the line. |
It's interesting regarding the coming inside thing, if you think about it, it's what happens at most clubs, liverpool have salah tucking in, arsenal have saka, look how Pepe changed Grealish, town has Hutchinson/Clarke
I would assume there are stats behind the lack of threat from players going wide, If you think about it, that would make sense as unless you're absolutely spot on with the ball, how many times are you going to finish off a simple cross across goal...
If you tuck in, either a gap opens for a shot away, you can pass across goal or even put through a pass for an overlapping fullback who can then pop the ball in.
I do think we'll see that alot more with town as our style seems to follow the big guns. | |
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| Is it possible at this early stage to see the prem side in town.. on 21:31 - Sep 3 with 1338 views | Crawfordsboot |
In much of the commentary on here and also re the Man U v Liverpool debate there is not enough acknowledgment of the importance of having a settled side.
KM worked wonders with the consecutive promotions with some decent but not exceptional players. They knew each other inside out and they worked to settled game plans. Each and every player knew their job.
I was at the United Liverpool game on Sunday and like Town last year the Liverpool side was settled (only one new incoming player I believe). They combined like a well oiled machine. United started very well for almost half an hour and were the better team but imploded under pressure and ended up as if they were strangers to their team mates.
KM is going to have a challenge retaining the level of understanding across the squad whist introducing new signings who, though they might be better equipped for the premiership, do not yet fit the Town mould.
I have just spent a few hours watching series 1 and 2 of the Burnley programmes and seeing the challenges, successes and failures around their recent campaigns. It made for interesting viewing and highlighted both the playing and financial challenge that lies ahead for us. |  | | |
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