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Not sure if this link will work, but there is a bit of a debate (well it would be a debate if there were two sides to this particular story, it’s more a series of rants) about whether dynamic pricing for match tickets is a reasonable development.
Clearly a topic fuelled by the recent furore about Oasis tickets. I think that if the club could direct the tickets to true fans and guarantee no resale then there is no justification for this. If they are finding that these tickets are simply ending up with touts, maybe the club should make that margin rather than the third parties.
Football is absolutely ripe for this, imagine what they could charge when demand far outstrips demand for a European or playoff final?
Or for Season tickets?
On the flip side this is exactly the type of thing you'd hope the proposed football regulator would be all over, standing up for supporter interests.
The way the top clubs tried to jump ship to a European super league suggests many clubs will prioritise profits over the fans, so defo one for supporters to be watching out for and opposing if/when it is proposed.
Football is absolutely ripe for this, imagine what they could charge when demand far outstrips demand for a European or playoff final?
Or for Season tickets?
On the flip side this is exactly the type of thing you'd hope the proposed football regulator would be all over, standing up for supporter interests.
The way the top clubs tried to jump ship to a European super league suggests many clubs will prioritise profits over the fans, so defo one for supporters to be watching out for and opposing if/when it is proposed.
Not sure if you have seen Ted Lasso but there is a section in there on a proposed super league.
The question is asked by the clubs owner which simply state..." How much more f--king money do you need?"
Followed up by "Why would you take the game that so many love away from them?"
Fictional series but absolutely hit the nail on the head
I've mentioned on here before about doing some work with Ticketmaster a few years ago and how they don't announce ticket prices and just wait to see how many people are in a waiting room. It's a horrible practice and people should absolutely be made aware of the price they are paying before they join a queue
As soon as I saw the story about the Oasis pricing I immediately thought Football owners will be next.
Which club will be first to try abolishing season tickets?
If they ever do the overseas game (as the Spanish are doing) then I would imagine that would be the one to test it on.
Play in Miami and maximise your ticket sales as well as sticking it on PPV for the fans back home.
Just look back to when football was first televised and Monday night football was 1 game. Now it's Friday night, two games on a Sat and two on a Sunday. Literally half the games, plus you need 3 different contracts +Sky, TNT and Amazon.
No one predicted that 30 years ago. Fast forward 30 years and who knows where we will be.
It should do - the MCC probably wishes it had done this Sunday for the Lords Test
I suppose it already exists when you buy a 10p loaf of bread at Sainsburys when its got 10 minutes left on its sell-by date.
I guess the difference with the Oasis thing was that at the point of queueing the prices were x and at the point of purchase they were 3x, whereby waiting 3 hours to buy something is an unusual circumstance.
If dynamic pricing by Ticketmaster is lawful then why isn't dynamic pricing by touts looked at as the same.
If this sort of thing becomes the norm then we are all screwed.
It's the thin edge of the fecking wedge baby, we cannot stand for this - and I'm deadly serious.
This isn't just about Oasis tickets or Valencia tickets or whatever. The big guns are trying to push something through here, can't you see it??????????
“Hello, I'm your MP. Actually I'm not. I'm your candidate. Gosh.”
Boris Johnson canvassing in Henley, 2005.
If dynamic pricing by Ticketmaster is lawful then why isn't dynamic pricing by touts looked at as the same.
If this sort of thing becomes the norm then we are all screwed.
It's the thin edge of the fecking wedge baby, we cannot stand for this - and I'm deadly serious.
This isn't just about Oasis tickets or Valencia tickets or whatever. The big guns are trying to push something through here, can't you see it??????????
“Hello, I'm your MP. Actually I'm not. I'm your candidate. Gosh.”
Boris Johnson canvassing in Henley, 2005.
If dynamic pricing by Ticketmaster is lawful then why isn't dynamic pricing by touts looked at as the same.
If this sort of thing becomes the norm then we are all screwed.
It's the thin edge of the fecking wedge baby, we cannot stand for this - and I'm deadly serious.
This isn't just about Oasis tickets or Valencia tickets or whatever. The big guns are trying to push something through here, can't you see it??????????
....the Oasis situation has just made people more aware.
Springsteen did it on his last tour, he pretended he didn't know but then made a statement basically saying "tough sh*t".
They've been doing it the US for a while now and it's not just in the entertainment industry. Last time I was in Vegas none of the convenience stores had prices on any of their products because the prices change depending on the time of day.
A bottle of water or a packet of "chips" cost more at lunchtime and late at night when demand is high.....they call it "surge pricing" over there.
The world is screwed dude.
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I suppose it already exists when you buy a 10p loaf of bread at Sainsburys when its got 10 minutes left on its sell-by date.
I guess the difference with the Oasis thing was that at the point of queueing the prices were x and at the point of purchase they were 3x, whereby waiting 3 hours to buy something is an unusual circumstance.
The other point is that they are unlikely to have sold many tickets at the outset at £95 a pop if people knew the price would likely come down substantially in time given it was day 4 of the test (against a relatively unfancied Sri Lanka) - but you have to think that in aggregate they would have made more - whether through the sale of tickets or beer / food / souvenirs etc.
If dynamic pricing by Ticketmaster is lawful then why isn't dynamic pricing by touts looked at as the same.
If this sort of thing becomes the norm then we are all screwed.
It's the thin edge of the fecking wedge baby, we cannot stand for this - and I'm deadly serious.
This isn't just about Oasis tickets or Valencia tickets or whatever. The big guns are trying to push something through here, can't you see it??????????
Free market innit. The Gallagher brothers have created huge demand and exploited it for every penny.
Capitalism in all its glory.
I think listing tickets at £135 and selling them for x3 leaves a foul taste in the mouth, but not sure it's any different from a hotel or airline sticking it's prices up at times of high demand.
Free market innit. The Gallagher brothers have created huge demand and exploited it for every penny.
Capitalism in all its glory.
I think listing tickets at £135 and selling them for x3 leaves a foul taste in the mouth, but not sure it's any different from a hotel or airline sticking it's prices up at times of high demand.
I guess the difference is the price of the hotel is transparent
When you join a waiting room for a dynamic pricing event, you have no idea what the price of the ticket will be and the price will be dictated by the amount of people in that waiting room
I guess the difference is the price of the hotel is transparent
When you join a waiting room for a dynamic pricing event, you have no idea what the price of the ticket will be and the price will be dictated by the amount of people in that waiting room
Yep, don't disagree that the Oasis ticketing thing is bang out of order
Free market innit. The Gallagher brothers have created huge demand and exploited it for every penny.
Capitalism in all its glory.
I think listing tickets at £135 and selling them for x3 leaves a foul taste in the mouth, but not sure it's any different from a hotel or airline sticking it's prices up at times of high demand.
That is absolute b0llocks, it is nothing to do with capitalism, it's to do with extortion and greed.
Capitalism is simply about private ownership, or are you saying that the communists were actually capitalists when they out priced everyone's bread so the people starved?
Wow, that's Dr Who scarf economics at a new level, and mightily disingenuous.
If you take greater satisfaction in trying to make a political point than "feel the people" then you have absolutely crashed in my estimation Lagos.
As for the Gallaghers, it seems they have sold out both physically and metaphorically.
Obviously you don't feel as disgusted about this as me - and for what it's worth I had no real desire to get a ticket, and if I want one I'll get one.
But.........that is completely not the point. Feck the lot of them.
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“Hello, I'm your MP. Actually I'm not. I'm your candidate. Gosh.”
Boris Johnson canvassing in Henley, 2005.
That is absolute b0llocks, it is nothing to do with capitalism, it's to do with extortion and greed.
Capitalism is simply about private ownership, or are you saying that the communists were actually capitalists when they out priced everyone's bread so the people starved?
Wow, that's Dr Who scarf economics at a new level, and mightily disingenuous.
If you take greater satisfaction in trying to make a political point than "feel the people" then you have absolutely crashed in my estimation Lagos.
As for the Gallaghers, it seems they have sold out both physically and metaphorically.
Obviously you don't feel as disgusted about this as me - and for what it's worth I had no real desire to get a ticket, and if I want one I'll get one.
But.........that is completely not the point. Feck the lot of them.
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You don't think capitalism is about profit maximisation?
Pricing is set to get as much as possible from the consumer, certainly in every industry I ever worked in that was exactly how it worked.
Not making a political point, capitalism is based on businesses making decisions to make as much dosh as possible, be that how they price, invest and/or source.
You don't think capitalism is about profit maximisation?
Pricing is set to get as much as possible from the consumer, certainly in every industry I ever worked in that was exactly how it worked.
Not making a political point, capitalism is based on businesses making decisions to make as much dosh as possible, be that how they price, invest and/or source.
The nature of the beast Lucan!
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B0llocks again.
You are trying to assimilate greedy bastard extortion with capitalism.
It's all a bit ignorant IMHO.
“Hello, I'm your MP. Actually I'm not. I'm your candidate. Gosh.”
Boris Johnson canvassing in Henley, 2005.
You don't think capitalism is about profit maximisation?
Pricing is set to get as much as possible from the consumer, certainly in every industry I ever worked in that was exactly how it worked.
Not making a political point, capitalism is based on businesses making decisions to make as much dosh as possible, be that how they price, invest and/or source.
The nature of the beast Lucan!
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it's supply and demand, free market capitalism, greed is good.
i'm against it too, but pretending it's not capitalism is an odd flex!
it's supply and demand, free market capitalism, greed is good.
i'm against it too, but pretending it's not capitalism is an odd flex!
This is what was predicted on Keno's thread this morning, International break and the political bickering starts to go nuclear.
For what it's worth I think Oasis should be nationalised and the Government make them tour every small venue in the British Isles for the next three years and charging no more than a fiver.
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