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The devil will be in the detail, which doesn't appear to have been made public. If it's that they've got first refusal then its fairly immaterial, it just means they've got the option to match a bid from elsewhere if we choose to accept it, but it remains in our gift to do that or not. If the terms are that we're obliged to accept £X amount for him if they offer it then that's potentially more challenging, depending on what that X amount is. Normally there's a period of time in which its applicable to as well. Without the detail its hard to know how meaningful it is.
Think of it this way - if City do buy him back, then that will likely mean he's done his part in ensuring we playing Prem football for the next season or two.
Ade Akinbiyi couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo...
He would have to be going some for Many City to buy him back to play in their team.
So the most likely motivation would be to buy him back if there is a sell on profit to be made. For them to make a good profit, the buy back fee would need to be relatively low compared to his market value.
If the latter is the case, then there is probably a negotiation to be had to remove the clause at some point.
Delap, of course, would also need to agree to any move.
Think of it this way - if City do buy him back, then that will likely mean he's done his part in ensuring we playing Prem football for the next season or two.
I'm still too mentally scarred from the ME era to think about that. I'm envisaging a scenario where he scores 20 goals, we still go down, and City can take him back for £3m and a pre season friendly.
The devil will be in the detail, which doesn't appear to have been made public. If it's that they've got first refusal then its fairly immaterial, it just means they've got the option to match a bid from elsewhere if we choose to accept it, but it remains in our gift to do that or not. If the terms are that we're obliged to accept £X amount for him if they offer it then that's potentially more challenging, depending on what that X amount is. Normally there's a period of time in which its applicable to as well. Without the detail its hard to know how meaningful it is.
Hope I'm wrong but I thought journalists were normally careful to distinguish between buy-back and first refusal clauses in their reporting, so not using the first as an umbrella term to also include less meaningful arrangements like first refusal.
Hope I'm wrong but I thought journalists were normally careful to distinguish between buy-back and first refusal clauses in their reporting, so not using the first as an umbrella term to also include less meaningful arrangements like first refusal.
Interesting, I too hope you're wrong in that case.
If its a buyback clause then lets hope its set at a very high level that isn't attractive to Man City to trigger. What's attractive to us might not be to a club like City, and with their global appeal they can sign anyone they want. That said he's English, and beyond Haaland they don't really have many what I would call out and out #9's.
Also if he's playing here and scoring goals its not a given he would want to go back there and be understudy to Haaland.
Buy-back clauses doesn’t make it compulsory for the player to go back to his previous club. If he does amazingly well here (due to playing regularly) then it’ll make little sense to go back to City if they are unable to offer him regular football.
I think a few people should be reminded of their negative response to Delap being signed. I thought he was quality from the start, but I am actually surprised at how well he is doing.
I think a few people should be reminded of their negative response to Delap being signed. I thought he was quality from the start, but I am actually surprised at how well he is doing.
I think a few people should be reminded of their negative response to Delap being signed. I thought he was quality from the start, but I am actually surprised at how well he is doing.
Who?
All seemed pretty positive on here.
I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
Buy-back clauses doesn’t make it compulsory for the player to go back to his previous club. If he does amazingly well here (due to playing regularly) then it’ll make little sense to go back to City if they are unable to offer him regular football.
It isn’t any buy back clause we need to worry about but we should be concerned if Delap’s contract has a release clause if a bid is received high enough to trigger it.
How exactly does the buy-back clause work? How can Man City use it?
Two examples of buy-back clauses recently would be Villa's with Philogene and Archer.
Hull agreed to allow Villa the option to buy Philogene back for £15m should they be promoted to the PL. Villa agreed to buy Archer back from Sheff Utd for an agreed fee if they were relegated.
The latter example was possibly to Sheff Utd and Archer's benefit, an affordability issue and incentive to get the deal done, while the former clearly favoured Villa. My assumption is that players agree to the terms by which they may be re-signed, much like they would agree to and be contractually bound by all other terms in a transfer deal.
What they have in common is that the buy-back fee is agreed at the time of sale, alongside the conditions around when it may or must be triggered. These conditions could be related to timeframe, performance or results, but in essence we are talking about a personal release clause for City when conditions permit - we would have agreed in advance to let them buy him back for £X amount at a certain point, no matter if we wanted to keep hold of him or if the figure was much lower than he's now worth.
Two examples of buy-back clauses recently would be Villa's with Philogene and Archer.
Hull agreed to allow Villa the option to buy Philogene back for £15m should they be promoted to the PL. Villa agreed to buy Archer back from Sheff Utd for an agreed fee if they were relegated.
The latter example was possibly to Sheff Utd and Archer's benefit, an affordability issue and incentive to get the deal done, while the former clearly favoured Villa. My assumption is that players agree to the terms by which they may be re-signed, much like they would agree to and be contractually bound by all other terms in a transfer deal.
What they have in common is that the buy-back fee is agreed at the time of sale, alongside the conditions around when it may or must be triggered. These conditions could be related to timeframe, performance or results, but in essence we are talking about a personal release clause for City when conditions permit - we would have agreed in advance to let them buy him back for £X amount at a certain point, no matter if we wanted to keep hold of him or if the figure was much lower than he's now worth.
Philogene wasnt a buy back option with a set fee.
They had the right to match any bids from other clubs.
Can we just sit back & enjoy him for a few weeks (as long as he's fit) please, without worrying about yet another thing that might be a negative further down the line. These are the good times, let's just bask in the sun while we can :)
As good as Delap is now, and a ceiling for even higher - he ain’t shifting Haaland out of the starting lineup.
That said, in the medium term he’ll almost certainly be sold for a huge profit (assuming his current trajectory). As Coventry are proving, selling and reinvesting in the squad is not as easy as Brighton make it look.
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