| Cleverly out 15:38 - Oct 9 with 6973 views | baxterbasics |
Surprised by that - Badenoch V Jenrick it is! |  |
| |  |
| Cleverly out on 18:26 - Oct 9 with 1776 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Cleverly out on 15:55 - Oct 9 by Blueschev |
Won't somebody please think of the landlords?? |
Seems to be so many off them making a fortune despite the nasty govt. |  | | |
| Cleverly out on 18:29 - Oct 9 with 1758 views | JohnTy |
One Ipswich supporter thinks he has wasted £39 re-joining the Tory Party.
|  | | |
| Cleverly out on 18:30 - Oct 9 with 1745 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Cleverly out on 18:29 - Oct 9 by JohnTy |
One Ipswich supporter thinks he has wasted £39 re-joining the Tory Party.
|
Will the last decent tory turn the lights off | | | |
| Cleverly out on 18:38 - Oct 9 with 1724 views | Blueschev |
| Cleverly out on 18:26 - Oct 9 by reusersfreekicks |
Seems to be so many off them making a fortune despite the nasty govt. |
Don't you believe it! I can't think of any other demographic suffering more as a result of this nasty government than landlords. Other than those poor souls being punished for sending their children to private schools maybe. |  | | |
| Cleverly out on 18:50 - Oct 9 with 1697 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Cleverly out on 17:04 - Oct 9 by FrimleyBlue |
They haven't given it a 2nd thought tbh.
Instead of 2 months of no rent payments = notice served. They're changing to 4 months.
Currently all councils telling tenants to stay until bailiffs arrive.
So no payment for 4 months. You then have to give the new 4 months notice instead of 2 so that's 8 months of now rent. Then they refuse to leave so you go court. Another 2 months. Still refuse to leave. Apply for warrant of bailiff another month. Then get bailiff that takes 2 weeks to book eviction date.
So nearly a year to get a tenant out who stopped paying rent plus the extra £4000 to go through the courts.
Then you find out after they've gone. They had dogs that you didn't want them to have but legally couldn't stop them ( new rule) so you've got to pay out on refurbing the place to be able to remarket.
What's the point in risking it.. might as well sell.
BTW. Aware there are dodgy landlords out there so appreciate the need for a certain reform of the rules. But increasing notice periods etc is wrong imo. The pet rule etc should be the landlords choice. |
This from
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/guide-to-the-renters-rights-bill/82ff
We will introduce new protections for tenants who temporarily fall into rent arrears, supporting both parties by preventing tenancies which are otherwise viable from ending. We will increase the mandatory threshold for eviction from 2 to 3 months’ arrears and increase the notice period from 2 weeks to 4. This will allow tenants more time to repay arrears and remain in their homes, while ensuring landlords do not face unsustainable costs. Landlords can also continue to use the discretionary rent arrears grounds, for example if rent is repeatedly late.
You seem a bit (well miles) off with your facts | | | |
| Cleverly out on 18:54 - Oct 9 with 1679 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Cleverly out on 18:50 - Oct 9 by reusersfreekicks |
This from
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/guide-to-the-renters-rights-bill/82ff
We will introduce new protections for tenants who temporarily fall into rent arrears, supporting both parties by preventing tenancies which are otherwise viable from ending. We will increase the mandatory threshold for eviction from 2 to 3 months’ arrears and increase the notice period from 2 weeks to 4. This will allow tenants more time to repay arrears and remain in their homes, while ensuring landlords do not face unsustainable costs. Landlords can also continue to use the discretionary rent arrears grounds, for example if rent is repeatedly late.
You seem a bit (well miles) off with your facts |
Indeed. And anyone who pays £4,000 to go through the courts on a possession claim, is an idiot. Issue fee is hundreds. |  | | |
| Cleverly out on 19:00 - Oct 9 with 1655 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Cleverly out on 18:54 - Oct 9 by redrickstuhaart |
Indeed. And anyone who pays £4,000 to go through the courts on a possession claim, is an idiot. Issue fee is hundreds. |
Would be keen to know how you see this. Could be handy. |  |
| |
| Cleverly out on 19:05 - Oct 9 with 1646 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Cleverly out on 18:50 - Oct 9 by reusersfreekicks |
This from
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/guide-to-the-renters-rights-bill/82ff
We will introduce new protections for tenants who temporarily fall into rent arrears, supporting both parties by preventing tenancies which are otherwise viable from ending. We will increase the mandatory threshold for eviction from 2 to 3 months’ arrears and increase the notice period from 2 weeks to 4. This will allow tenants more time to repay arrears and remain in their homes, while ensuring landlords do not face unsustainable costs. Landlords can also continue to use the discretionary rent arrears grounds, for example if rent is repeatedly late.
You seem a bit (well miles) off with your facts |
Thanks reuser helpful to see that. Not quite what was in the letter we got. So cheers:) | |
| |
Login to get fewer ads
| Cleverly out on 19:52 - Oct 9 with 1588 views | Ryorry |
| Cleverly out on 18:24 - Oct 9 by reusersfreekicks |
Cleverly was the least sh1t of the 3 of them by a distance |
The horse 💩 selection, when the other options were dog 💩 and fox 💩 |  |
| |
| Cleverly out on 20:10 - Oct 9 with 1554 views | Ryorry |
| Cleverly out on 18:50 - Oct 9 by reusersfreekicks |
This from
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/guide-to-the-renters-rights-bill/82ff
We will introduce new protections for tenants who temporarily fall into rent arrears, supporting both parties by preventing tenancies which are otherwise viable from ending. We will increase the mandatory threshold for eviction from 2 to 3 months’ arrears and increase the notice period from 2 weeks to 4. This will allow tenants more time to repay arrears and remain in their homes, while ensuring landlords do not face unsustainable costs. Landlords can also continue to use the discretionary rent arrears grounds, for example if rent is repeatedly late.
You seem a bit (well miles) off with your facts |
Currently, renters have the absolute right to at least two months' notice as standard. That's part of every single Assured Shorthold Tenancy (which constitute the vast majority of lets) & has been so for a long time.
Landlords, however, are entitled to only one month's notice if the tenant/s wish to move out - again, as has been the case for a long time. Very difficult to re-let in Nov/Dec/Jan in a rural area.
I'm all for tenants' rights & security (I was one for most of my adult life and lived in some shocking properties with some terrible landlords) but the pendulum has now swung too far towards tenants. People forget that decent landlords (the majority, despite what grabs the news headlines) desperately want *good* tenants to stay as long as possible! therefore bend over backwards to help them & do everything possible to encourage them to stay. | |
| |
| Cleverly out on 20:29 - Oct 9 with 1528 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Cleverly out on 20:10 - Oct 9 by Ryorry |
Currently, renters have the absolute right to at least two months' notice as standard. That's part of every single Assured Shorthold Tenancy (which constitute the vast majority of lets) & has been so for a long time.
Landlords, however, are entitled to only one month's notice if the tenant/s wish to move out - again, as has been the case for a long time. Very difficult to re-let in Nov/Dec/Jan in a rural area.
I'm all for tenants' rights & security (I was one for most of my adult life and lived in some shocking properties with some terrible landlords) but the pendulum has now swung too far towards tenants. People forget that decent landlords (the majority, despite what grabs the news headlines) desperately want *good* tenants to stay as long as possible! therefore bend over backwards to help them & do everything possible to encourage them to stay. |
Nothing has swung at all.
Even what is suggested is hardly a massive change.
In most places, people can't get rental properties because the market is so tough. Renting at good rates is incredibly easy to do.
You can have them out in two months for no reason at all, or about 3 months if they stop paying rent.
This is people's homes. [Post edited 9 Oct 2024 20:37]
| | | |
| Cleverly out on 20:45 - Oct 9 with 1513 views | Ryorry |
| Cleverly out on 20:29 - Oct 9 by redrickstuhaart |
Nothing has swung at all.
Even what is suggested is hardly a massive change.
In most places, people can't get rental properties because the market is so tough. Renting at good rates is incredibly easy to do.
You can have them out in two months for no reason at all, or about 3 months if they stop paying rent.
This is people's homes. [Post edited 9 Oct 2024 20:37]
|
"Nothing has swung at all."
"Even what is suggested is hardly a massive change"
Incorrect. No need to take my word for it, try talking to other decent landlords, or the NRLA - https://www.nrla.org.uk/news/renters-rights-bill-enforcement
"In most places, people can't get rental properties because the market is so tough."
Unfortunately, it will get even tougher now - see my previous post.
"Renting at good rates is incredibly easy to do."
Not, as I said, out in the sticks in winter, esp in the run up to Christmas.
"You can have them out in two months for no reason at all, or about 3 months if they stop paying rent."
That's only the case until the new bill becomes law, which most experts seem to think will happen next summer.
Edit - in response to your edit - (+ 2nd edit for grammar)
You don't seem to have read my previous post very carefully - I pointed out that decent landlords (the majority) are desperate for *good tenants* to stay, so do everything they can to keep them. The nature of my annexe is that it's a 1-bed property at a v. affordable rent, so tenants are almost exclusively young & single, in the process of partnering up or divorcing, mobile in their career path - & therefore tend to move on after 3 years at the most. If a good 'un wanted to stay 10 years, I'd be v. happy for them to do so!
Anyway, don't want to derail the thread, so will leave it there. [Post edited 9 Oct 2024 22:38]
| |
| |
| Cleverly out on 08:03 - Oct 10 with 1338 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Surely Clever-ly was out of the Tory running years ago. |  |
| |
| Cleverly out on 09:50 - Oct 10 with 1234 views | soupytwist |
| Cleverly out on 20:45 - Oct 9 by Ryorry |
"Nothing has swung at all."
"Even what is suggested is hardly a massive change"
Incorrect. No need to take my word for it, try talking to other decent landlords, or the NRLA - https://www.nrla.org.uk/news/renters-rights-bill-enforcement
"In most places, people can't get rental properties because the market is so tough."
Unfortunately, it will get even tougher now - see my previous post.
"Renting at good rates is incredibly easy to do."
Not, as I said, out in the sticks in winter, esp in the run up to Christmas.
"You can have them out in two months for no reason at all, or about 3 months if they stop paying rent."
That's only the case until the new bill becomes law, which most experts seem to think will happen next summer.
Edit - in response to your edit - (+ 2nd edit for grammar)
You don't seem to have read my previous post very carefully - I pointed out that decent landlords (the majority) are desperate for *good tenants* to stay, so do everything they can to keep them. The nature of my annexe is that it's a 1-bed property at a v. affordable rent, so tenants are almost exclusively young & single, in the process of partnering up or divorcing, mobile in their career path - & therefore tend to move on after 3 years at the most. If a good 'un wanted to stay 10 years, I'd be v. happy for them to do so!
Anyway, don't want to derail the thread, so will leave it there. [Post edited 9 Oct 2024 22:38]
|
I understand the value of decent landlords and their willingness to do what they can to encourage stable tenancies. My mother is one, she downsized post-divorce and when she and her current husband moved in together she kept that smaller property and began letting it out. At the time it was a sensible thing to do, she couldn't be sure that she wouldn't need somewhere to move into or provide some income if things didn't work out. That was over 20 years ago so I think she could now take the view that her relationship is sufficiently stable for a backup living option to not be necessary. Obviously as one of three sons I now have my eyes on the inheritance so if she considered selling it I would strongly advise against ;).
The shorter term let is just the market your circumstances mean you're in. You have a product that appeals to a certain section of the market. If that's not the market you want to be in, you could do something about it. |  | | |
| Cleverly out on 10:57 - Oct 10 with 1148 views | DJR |
| Cleverly out on 20:45 - Oct 9 by Ryorry |
"Nothing has swung at all."
"Even what is suggested is hardly a massive change"
Incorrect. No need to take my word for it, try talking to other decent landlords, or the NRLA - https://www.nrla.org.uk/news/renters-rights-bill-enforcement
"In most places, people can't get rental properties because the market is so tough."
Unfortunately, it will get even tougher now - see my previous post.
"Renting at good rates is incredibly easy to do."
Not, as I said, out in the sticks in winter, esp in the run up to Christmas.
"You can have them out in two months for no reason at all, or about 3 months if they stop paying rent."
That's only the case until the new bill becomes law, which most experts seem to think will happen next summer.
Edit - in response to your edit - (+ 2nd edit for grammar)
You don't seem to have read my previous post very carefully - I pointed out that decent landlords (the majority) are desperate for *good tenants* to stay, so do everything they can to keep them. The nature of my annexe is that it's a 1-bed property at a v. affordable rent, so tenants are almost exclusively young & single, in the process of partnering up or divorcing, mobile in their career path - & therefore tend to move on after 3 years at the most. If a good 'un wanted to stay 10 years, I'd be v. happy for them to do so!
Anyway, don't want to derail the thread, so will leave it there. [Post edited 9 Oct 2024 22:38]
|
With a rental property next door to you, I feel for you if you have issues with a tenant.
The only thing to say is that both the Tory Bill and the Labour Bill would have taken away section 21 notices, but maybe if the Tories had stayed in power their Bill wouldn't have seen the light of day. [Post edited 10 Oct 2024 11:01]
|  | | |
| Cleverly out on 13:39 - Oct 10 with 1045 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Cleverly out on 16:29 - Oct 9 by baxterbasics |
Those thinking both are a gift to Starmer are underestimating Badenoch. She'll be rough around the edges to start with but I think she will give him a few problems.
Peter Mandelson apparently saying as much too, he knows his onions when it comes to this stuff.
Cleverly just far to dull and hardly untainted from his stint in government. |
Is Mandelson thinking of the same Badenoch.
She is one of the most dislikeable politicians in the UK. She really struggles to connect with people and comes across as just plain rude.
She will try to out Farage, Farage, which you cant do. Tories will lose even more seats to the Lib Dems and reform in the next election under her leadership.
Gift for Labour. |  |
| |
| Cleverly out on 13:41 - Oct 10 with 1031 views | peterleeblue |
Seriously who cares.
They have had their chances and they blew it.
I cant believe this is getting a TV debate. Like who would watch that. TV for Mr Tim Nice but Dim's |  | | |
| Cleverly out on 09:40 - Oct 11 with 857 views | Zapers |
| Cleverly out on 13:39 - Oct 10 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Is Mandelson thinking of the same Badenoch.
She is one of the most dislikeable politicians in the UK. She really struggles to connect with people and comes across as just plain rude.
She will try to out Farage, Farage, which you cant do. Tories will lose even more seats to the Lib Dems and reform in the next election under her leadership.
Gift for Labour. |
Badenoch would be Starmers worst nightmare.
We can only hope;) | | | |
| Cleverly out on 09:54 - Oct 11 with 822 views | MattinLondon |
| Cleverly out on 09:40 - Oct 11 by Zapers |
Badenoch would be Starmers worst nightmare.
We can only hope;) |
The trouble with the Tories is that their grassroots actually want to take the party further to the right. It’s a bit like when the Labour Party voted in JC as leader - both sets elected a loser who doesn’t appeal to the country as a whole.
Yes she will have the press on her side but she won’t win an election and will become a huge embarrassment to her party. Expect another loony after her before they return to a sense of normality. |  | | |
| |
By continuing to use the site, you agree to our use of cookies and to abide by our Terms and Conditions.
