| Cleverly out 15:38 - Oct 9 with 7573 views | baxterbasics |
Surprised by that - Badenoch V Jenrick it is! |  |
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| Cleverly out on 16:21 - Oct 9 with 1789 views | Zapers |
| Cleverly out on 15:58 - Oct 9 by ElderGrizzly |
And neither one will be likely be leader in 2029 as the Tories eat themselves all over again |
So nothing to worry about, unless, you are wrong.
Which is quite likely. |  | | |
| Cleverly out on 16:21 - Oct 9 with 1791 views | DJR |
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| Cleverly out on 16:22 - Oct 9 with 1773 views | DJR |
| Cleverly out on 15:51 - Oct 9 by J2BLUE |
Glad he's out. He should be nowhere near politics.
Jenrick also seems to be a polished turd.
Badenoch, although fairly unpleasant, does at least seem to have a brain. |
Just a shame that it doesn't seem connected to her mouth. | | | |
| Cleverly out on 16:25 - Oct 9 with 1745 views | positivity |
| Cleverly out on 16:21 - Oct 9 by Zapers |
So nothing to worry about, unless, you are wrong.
Which is quite likely. |
says the non-uk resident who is still clutching his pearls about private schools being taxed! | |
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| Cleverly out on 16:25 - Oct 9 with 1749 views | DJR |
| Cleverly out on 15:55 - Oct 9 by baxterbasics |
Opps - when tactical voting goes wrong:
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| Cleverly out on 16:29 - Oct 9 with 1704 views | baxterbasics |
Those thinking both are a gift to Starmer are underestimating Badenoch. She'll be rough around the edges to start with but I think she will give him a few problems.
Peter Mandelson apparently saying as much too, he knows his onions when it comes to this stuff.
Cleverly just far to dull and hardly untainted from his stint in government. | |
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| Cleverly out on 16:32 - Oct 9 with 1683 views | soupytwist |
I'm in the fortunate(?) position of being one of Cleverley's constituents. I wonder how much longer he will stick around as an MP given this result. Not sure he's up for a lengthy stint as a back bencher. |  | | |
| Cleverly out on 16:34 - Oct 9 with 1666 views | mutters |
| Cleverly out on 15:59 - Oct 9 by ElderGrizzly |
Badenoch is a horrible, nasty piece of work with some very dubious backers too.
The membership will go for her as she is the 'nastiest' about foreigners. |
I concur, the fact she has made it this far is just mind boggling.
However I reiterate the point that this is the party that not only made Liz Truss their leader but also Prime Fooking Minister. Looney tunes central over there at times. |  |
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| Cleverly out on 16:35 - Oct 9 with 1673 views | positivity |
| Cleverly out on 16:29 - Oct 9 by baxterbasics |
Those thinking both are a gift to Starmer are underestimating Badenoch. She'll be rough around the edges to start with but I think she will give him a few problems.
Peter Mandelson apparently saying as much too, he knows his onions when it comes to this stuff.
Cleverly just far to dull and hardly untainted from his stint in government. |
alistair campbell said that the tories would be stupid not to choose tugendhat, he also knows his stuff
she doesn't seem terribly good with the media as shown by the maternity pay debacle.
badenoch was also a member of the cabinet with cleverley, so don't see how she will avoid this | |
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| Cleverly out on 16:41 - Oct 9 with 1640 views | Ryorry |
| Cleverly out on 16:25 - Oct 9 by DJR |
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They're even stupider than we thought then. |  |
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| Cleverly out on 16:44 - Oct 9 with 1621 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Cleverly out on 16:21 - Oct 9 by Zapers |
So nothing to worry about, unless, you are wrong.
Which is quite likely. |
Ah Zapers
I'll look forward to my valentines card  |  | | |
| Cleverly out on 16:47 - Oct 9 with 1589 views | Ryorry |
| Cleverly out on 15:55 - Oct 9 by Blueschev |
Won't somebody please think of the landlords?? |
There are plenty if pensioner landlords like myself who let out just one property, the annexe of their home.
If you think the housing crisis is bad now, it's going to be a helluva lot worse if those properties are taken off the market altogether because the aforementioned landlords are desperate to avoid being saddled with antisocal or non-rent-paying tenants. [Post edited 9 Oct 2024 16:48]
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| Cleverly out on 16:50 - Oct 9 with 1578 views | WD19 |
| Cleverly out on 15:55 - Oct 9 by baxterbasics |
Opps - when tactical voting goes wrong:
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100% this. |  | | |
| Cleverly out on 16:51 - Oct 9 with 1574 views | thebooks |
| Cleverly out on 16:01 - Oct 9 by FrimleyBlue |
Wasn't quite my point tbh more about the different types of people they'd fked off in record time. Of course no comparison between the two actual things. |
Fair enough. I think you have a point about Labour’s (lack of) popularity, and politics is very volatile these days. But, I can’t see these nutjobs getting in – partly due to incompetence, and partly due to neither selling any kind of “levelling up” to go with the rightwing lunacy. But you never know.
And my god, imagine Badenoch as PM. |  | | |
| Cleverly out on 17:02 - Oct 9 with 1492 views | Trequartista |
When will Watford ever stop constantly changing managers? |  |
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| Cleverly out on 17:04 - Oct 9 with 1470 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Cleverly out on 16:47 - Oct 9 by Ryorry |
There are plenty if pensioner landlords like myself who let out just one property, the annexe of their home.
If you think the housing crisis is bad now, it's going to be a helluva lot worse if those properties are taken off the market altogether because the aforementioned landlords are desperate to avoid being saddled with antisocal or non-rent-paying tenants. [Post edited 9 Oct 2024 16:48]
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They haven't given it a 2nd thought tbh.
Instead of 2 months of no rent payments = notice served. They're changing to 4 months.
Currently all councils telling tenants to stay until bailiffs arrive.
So no payment for 4 months. You then have to give the new 4 months notice instead of 2 so that's 8 months of now rent. Then they refuse to leave so you go court. Another 2 months. Still refuse to leave. Apply for warrant of bailiff another month. Then get bailiff that takes 2 weeks to book eviction date.
So nearly a year to get a tenant out who stopped paying rent plus the extra £4000 to go through the courts.
Then you find out after they've gone. They had dogs that you didn't want them to have but legally couldn't stop them ( new rule) so you've got to pay out on refurbing the place to be able to remarket.
What's the point in risking it.. might as well sell.
BTW. Aware there are dodgy landlords out there so appreciate the need for a certain reform of the rules. But increasing notice periods etc is wrong imo. The pet rule etc should be the landlords choice. |  |
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| Cleverly out on 17:11 - Oct 9 with 1449 views | bluelagos |
| Cleverly out on 16:25 - Oct 9 by DJR |
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I am sure no one in the Cleverly camp would be so stupid as to even consider voting for anyone else.
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| Cleverly out on 17:16 - Oct 9 with 1430 views | BlueBadger |
| Cleverly out on 16:29 - Oct 9 by baxterbasics |
Those thinking both are a gift to Starmer are underestimating Badenoch. She'll be rough around the edges to start with but I think she will give him a few problems.
Peter Mandelson apparently saying as much too, he knows his onions when it comes to this stuff.
Cleverly just far to dull and hardly untainted from his stint in government. |
Like Johnson, she'll con the slow of thinking by not bothering with facts and endless tiresome hot takes designed to appeal to the Very Real Concerns crowd. [Post edited 9 Oct 2024 18:23]
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| Cleverly out on 17:39 - Oct 9 with 1342 views | Dubtractor |
| Cleverly out on 16:34 - Oct 9 by mutters |
I concur, the fact she has made it this far is just mind boggling.
However I reiterate the point that this is the party that not only made Liz Truss their leader but also Prime Fooking Minister. Looney tunes central over there at times. |
I think of her in very similar terms as Truss - seems like an intellectual lightweight pretending that she's actually not. Incredibly, I think Jenrick is worse though.
Are these really the best candidates that the tories could drum up? |  |
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| Cleverly out on 18:01 - Oct 9 with 1288 views | bournemouthblue |
I'm not, the Tories have put forward the two biggest lunatics from the line up
They'll now put it to members and see which one can out reform the other [Post edited 9 Oct 2024 18:05]
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| Cleverly out on 18:03 - Oct 9 with 1280 views | bournemouthblue |
| Cleverly out on 15:59 - Oct 9 by ElderGrizzly |
Badenoch is a horrible, nasty piece of work with some very dubious backers too.
The membership will go for her as she is the 'nastiest' about foreigners. |
She's the Institute of Economic Affairs candidate essentially, the same people who had Truss as their puppet
That went well! | |
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| Cleverly out on 18:20 - Oct 9 with 1241 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Cleverly out on 16:29 - Oct 9 by baxterbasics |
Those thinking both are a gift to Starmer are underestimating Badenoch. She'll be rough around the edges to start with but I think she will give him a few problems.
Peter Mandelson apparently saying as much too, he knows his onions when it comes to this stuff.
Cleverly just far to dull and hardly untainted from his stint in government. |
Was it 10-15% of civil servants should be in prison?
Slash maternity pay
She is a nasty piece of work and by all accounts not great to work for
Liz Truss mk 2
The tories are fooked running after Reform votes in a subtrumpian manner |  | | |
| Cleverly out on 18:24 - Oct 9 with 1229 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Cleverly out on 15:51 - Oct 9 by J2BLUE |
Glad he's out. He should be nowhere near politics.
Jenrick also seems to be a polished turd.
Badenoch, although fairly unpleasant, does at least seem to have a brain. |
Cleverly was the least sh1t of the 3 of them by a distance | | | |
| Cleverly out on 18:25 - Oct 9 with 1224 views | BlueBadger |
| Cleverly out on 17:39 - Oct 9 by Dubtractor |
I think of her in very similar terms as Truss - seems like an intellectual lightweight pretending that she's actually not. Incredibly, I think Jenrick is worse though.
Are these really the best candidates that the tories could drum up? |
They appear to genuinely think that yet more dimwitted incompetent bigots with a relaxed approach to open corruption are what the country wants.
Despite having been thrown out for being precisely that. | |
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