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Oh well, that’s the end of Carsley. Every cloud and all that. 21:42 - Oct 10 with 3947 viewsITFC_84

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Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 21:43 - Oct 10 with 3591 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

International fans even more poisonous than club fans.

The commentator was also loving it when Greece got the winner.

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Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 21:45 - Oct 10 with 3550 viewsFrimleyBlue

Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 21:43 - Oct 10 by Marshalls_Mullet

International fans even more poisonous than club fans.

The commentator was also loving it when Greece got the winner.


Absolutely

Play silly bugers with your lineup get silly results.

Looks a right twit

Before the game
Greece have one of the meanest defenses at the moment

Let's go with no strikers. Lolz
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Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 21:47 - Oct 10 with 3515 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 21:45 - Oct 10 by FrimleyBlue

Absolutely

Play silly bugers with your lineup get silly results.

Looks a right twit

Before the game
Greece have one of the meanest defenses at the moment

Let's go with no strikers. Lolz
[Post edited 10 Oct 2024 21:46]


Get some perspective.

These games are exactly the type of matches to experiment in.

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Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 21:49 - Oct 10 with 3471 viewsbadadski

Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 21:45 - Oct 10 by FrimleyBlue

Absolutely

Play silly bugers with your lineup get silly results.

Looks a right twit

Before the game
Greece have one of the meanest defenses at the moment

Let's go with no strikers. Lolz
[Post edited 10 Oct 2024 21:46]


A team of individuals and no formation loses - shock horror - it’s like watching the trying to play gerrard, lampard, scholes in the same team all over again. Carsleys old enough to know better - palmer, Bellingham and foden are the same player / unfortunately it’s 1 or 2 max and that’s it as they suck all the space out of the rest of the pitch that we should be utilising
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Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 21:52 - Oct 10 with 3425 viewsFrimleyBlue

Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 21:47 - Oct 10 by Marshalls_Mullet

Get some perspective.

These games are exactly the type of matches to experiment in.


No need for experiments. He's won the last two games.

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Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 21:53 - Oct 10 with 3409 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 21:52 - Oct 10 by FrimleyBlue

No need for experiments. He's won the last two games.


Always a need to experiment in non tournament matches.

To be fair, it was bad individual defending that cost us in the end.

Onwards and upwards.

No need for bed wetting.

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Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 21:58 - Oct 10 with 3356 viewsFrimleyBlue

Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 21:53 - Oct 10 by Marshalls_Mullet

Always a need to experiment in non tournament matches.

To be fair, it was bad individual defending that cost us in the end.

Onwards and upwards.

No need for bed wetting.


You can have a laughing joke at the state of it without it being bed wetting marsh. I'm not angry about it I just find it crazily stupid

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Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 21:58 - Oct 10 with 3352 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 21:58 - Oct 10 by FrimleyBlue

You can have a laughing joke at the state of it without it being bed wetting marsh. I'm not angry about it I just find it crazily stupid


Dont worry about it.

Its just a friendly, even if they try to dress it up.

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Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 22:04 - Oct 10 with 3287 viewsbadadski

Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 21:58 - Oct 10 by Marshalls_Mullet

Dont worry about it.

Its just a friendly, even if they try to dress it up.


That’s why we as an international team we will probably never win anything ever again - these are the games where we should be developing a core squad, an identity, a style of playing and familiarising your selves with team mates strengths and weaknesses. International players get little to no time to know one another let alone if the squad rotates and experiments every other game
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Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 22:27 - Oct 10 with 3201 viewsSuffolktractor

Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 22:04 - Oct 10 by badadski

That’s why we as an international team we will probably never win anything ever again - these are the games where we should be developing a core squad, an identity, a style of playing and familiarising your selves with team mates strengths and weaknesses. International players get little to no time to know one another let alone if the squad rotates and experiments every other game


Absolutely right.
We should have a style of play where the best player for that position is the one who plays, no matter what. Perhaps have a bit of experimentation when you are 3-0 up, but it shows complete disrespect to the opposition when you mess around with your team and it only serves to fire them up further in an effort to beat you.
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Oh well, that’s the end of Carsley. Every cloud and all that. on 22:35 - Oct 10 with 3138 viewsArnieM

Pretty abysmal wasn't it....

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Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 22:57 - Oct 10 with 3048 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 22:04 - Oct 10 by badadski

That’s why we as an international team we will probably never win anything ever again - these are the games where we should be developing a core squad, an identity, a style of playing and familiarising your selves with team mates strengths and weaknesses. International players get little to no time to know one another let alone if the squad rotates and experiments every other game


It wasnt a reserve team you numpty.

He was trying a system thats worked for him at U21 levels.

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Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 23:20 - Oct 10 with 2955 viewsITFC_84

Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 21:43 - Oct 10 by Marshalls_Mullet

International fans even more poisonous than club fans.

The commentator was also loving it when Greece got the winner.


Just want a manager in charge of my national team - not a coach. Nothing against the guy, I just feel the job is far too big to give to someone like Carsley.
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Oh well, that’s the end of Carsley. Every cloud and all that. on 23:21 - Oct 10 with 2952 viewsFrimleyBlue

Least he knows his level


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Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 23:22 - Oct 10 with 2943 viewsbadadski

Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 22:57 - Oct 10 by Marshalls_Mullet

It wasnt a reserve team you numpty.

He was trying a system thats worked for him at U21 levels.


Playing 3 - 10’s is not a system. Remember when we tried playing - Bullard, Andrew’s and bowyer the same team - no width and they were getting in each others way - as soon as a decent opposition manager looked at how slow and congested we were it was game over - a congested England midfield and 2 wingbacks in Lewis and Arnold that can’t defend and it we got what we deserved - made to look shocking by a team who knows how to play together and played as a unit.
When they attacked they did so with purpose, they defended with purpose and deserved the victory -
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Oh well, that’s the end of Carsley. Every cloud and all that. on 23:40 - Oct 10 with 2877 viewsWicklowBlue

Oh well, that’s the end of Carsley. Every cloud and all that. on 23:21 - Oct 10 by FrimleyBlue

Least he knows his level



As Carsley was the FAI's no.1 for the ROI manager position part of me welcomes all of the English criticism. (I'd have him managing the ROi in a heartbeat so if you don't want him...)

However if a manager cannot experiment with players and tactics while losing a match in 90+ minutes and gets eviscerated......well......this is why Carsley has repeatedly intimated that a successor is incoming, he has everything to lose like many before him.
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Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 00:24 - Oct 11 with 2791 viewsKropotkin123

Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 21:53 - Oct 10 by Marshalls_Mullet

Always a need to experiment in non tournament matches.

To be fair, it was bad individual defending that cost us in the end.

Onwards and upwards.

No need for bed wetting.


Then why are you bed wetting?

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Oh well, that’s the end of Carsley. Every cloud and all that. on 07:59 - Oct 11 with 2471 viewsITFC_84

Oh well, that’s the end of Carsley. Every cloud and all that. on 23:21 - Oct 10 by FrimleyBlue

Least he knows his level



Lol. Well, think that’s pretty conclusive isn’t it.
The FA need to start pulling their finger out and someone appointed!
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Oh well, that’s the end of Carsley. Every cloud and all that. on 08:17 - Oct 11 with 2411 viewsWickets

For me every England game is important, so why on earth with Kane unavailable would you leave Watkins and Solanki on the bench !
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Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 09:05 - Oct 11 with 2298 viewsBiGDonnie

Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 21:47 - Oct 10 by Marshalls_Mullet

Get some perspective.

These games are exactly the type of matches to experiment in.


No chance. Carsley out.

Maybe next time we'll go without a keeper and see how that works out?

First Safegate now this bald yes man. We need someone who the players respect, who has played or managed at the very top level. Fcuk the FA.
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Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 09:10 - Oct 11 with 2270 viewsDanTheMan

Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 09:05 - Oct 11 by BiGDonnie

No chance. Carsley out.

Maybe next time we'll go without a keeper and see how that works out?

First Safegate now this bald yes man. We need someone who the players respect, who has played or managed at the very top level. Fcuk the FA.
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To be fair to Southgate, he was very successful with the team. Two finals is nothing to be sniffed at.

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Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 10:14 - Oct 11 with 2123 viewsm14_blue

Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 21:53 - Oct 10 by Marshalls_Mullet

Always a need to experiment in non tournament matches.

To be fair, it was bad individual defending that cost us in the end.

Onwards and upwards.

No need for bed wetting.


I'm not too worried about the loss and quite like what I've seen and heard from Carsley so far.

However, it was very much the system that was the problem last night, we managed to find a formation that meant we offered almost nothing going forwards and were constantly overrun at the back.

As you say, that was the time to experiment but this one definitely didn't work.

I can't help but feel that trying to fit Bellingham into the team is a conundrum that we'll have to solve over the next few years
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Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 10:25 - Oct 11 with 2077 viewsronnyd

Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 09:05 - Oct 11 by BiGDonnie

No chance. Carsley out.

Maybe next time we'll go without a keeper and see how that works out?

First Safegate now this bald yes man. We need someone who the players respect, who has played or managed at the very top level. Fcuk the FA.
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The way Pickford flapped around during the game, i thought we hadn't got one anyway.
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Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 10:26 - Oct 11 with 2069 viewsblueasfook

Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 09:10 - Oct 11 by DanTheMan

To be fair to Southgate, he was very successful with the team. Two finals is nothing to be sniffed at.


On paper, he's our second most successful manager since Sir Alf.

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Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 11:27 - Oct 11 with 1816 viewsVic

Loving the knee jerk reactions. on 10:14 - Oct 11 by m14_blue

I'm not too worried about the loss and quite like what I've seen and heard from Carsley so far.

However, it was very much the system that was the problem last night, we managed to find a formation that meant we offered almost nothing going forwards and were constantly overrun at the back.

As you say, that was the time to experiment but this one definitely didn't work.

I can't help but feel that trying to fit Bellingham into the team is a conundrum that we'll have to solve over the next few years


If he's the world class player we think he is then maybe we should be building/picking the team around him rather than trying to fit him into the team?

On Carsley - that has to be one of the worst interviews I've seen from a manager for a long time. That isn't the poise or talk of the leader we need. Nice guy, great number 2 but not right for the top job. Just my thoughts.

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