| Chris Kaba verdict 19:12 - Oct 21 with 28053 views | Zx1988 |
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c17lk592ygdo
Not sure what I make of this.
If, as the article perhaps suggests, the verdict hinged upon the testimony of Blake's fellow firearms officers, I feel a distinct sense of 'they would say that, wouldn't they'.
Is there any other scenario where, essentially, the corroborating testimony of one's chums would be enough to secure a not guilty verdict? |  |
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| Chris Kaba verdict on 10:46 - Oct 22 with 2001 views | leitrimblue |
| Chris Kaba verdict on 10:41 - Oct 22 by The_Flashing_Smile |
No-one said he deserves to be shot and killed, but you can see why the police would react the way they did in such a situation and with the facts known. |
So if you or a close family member bought a used car that had previously been used in a serious crime, was hemmed in by the police an panic you would understand and have no issue with them/you being shot? |  | | |
| Chris Kaba verdict on 10:57 - Oct 22 with 1965 views | WestStanderLaLaLa |
| Chris Kaba verdict on 10:11 - Oct 22 by gtsb1966 |
The thing that gets me are the statements from the family and protest groups. Not once have I read a statement where they state that Mr Kaba was in the wrong and if he hadn't done what he did none of this would've happened. This one sums it up for me.
Mr Kaba's family said they were devastated by the verdict, and that the acquittal of Mr Blake "wasn't just a failure for our family, but for all those affected by police violence".
What about Mr Kaba's violence. [Post edited 22 Oct 2024 10:12]
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Details emerging of his past
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/oct/22/chris-kaba-shot-man-in-club-and- [Post edited 22 Oct 2024 10:58]
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| Chris Kaba verdict on 11:02 - Oct 22 with 1944 views | blueasfook |
When armed police stop you, you are given clear orders to do what they say or you risk being shot. Any moves you make contrary to their orders then you can't really complain if they shoot you. |  |
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| Chris Kaba verdict on 11:04 - Oct 22 with 1950 views | SitfcB |
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| Plus the driver…. on 11:09 - Oct 22 with 1907 views | Bloots |
| Chris Kaba verdict on 10:38 - Oct 22 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Again you mention the "unarmed" bit but fail to mention he was in a car linked to a previous shooting, refused to stop when ordered to by armed police, and rammed them.
It's almost irrelevant that he was unarmed. Most right-thinking people would think there's a very good chance he's armed. You don't wait for him to start killing people to be sure.
"Unarmed" works as a defence when someone not known to the police is just walking down the street not carrying anything. In a car (where a gun could easily be concealed)... and a car that was linked to a previous shooting, is refusing to stop and is ramming the police... sorry, no, "unarmed" is not a defence. And I really don't think the speed he was ramming the police at is all that relevant either. |
….had previously done time for firearms offences and was being investigated for conspiracy to commit murder, an offence that 6 of his fellow “gang” members were subsequently charged with.
Brandon Malutshi was shot dead a week before Kaba died and 2 of Kaba’s “associates” were charged with wounding with intent and two more with possession of a firearm.
Nobody has been convicted of the murder because the “alleged” gunman had died before he could stand trial. He cannot be named for legal reasons. |  |
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| “Yeah but….” (n/t) on 11:10 - Oct 22 with 1899 views | Bloots |
| Chris Kaba verdict on 11:04 - Oct 22 by SitfcB |
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| Chris Kaba verdict on 11:13 - Oct 22 with 1892 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Chris Kaba verdict on 10:46 - Oct 22 by leitrimblue |
So if you or a close family member bought a used car that had previously been used in a serious crime, was hemmed in by the police an panic you would understand and have no issue with them/you being shot? |
I'm pretty sure I wouldn't buy a car that's been linked to a previous a shooting.
If armed police are telling me to stop, regardless of the car or situation I'm in, I would stop. |  |
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| Chris Kaba verdict on 11:13 - Oct 22 with 1909 views | leitrimblue |
| Chris Kaba verdict on 11:04 - Oct 22 by SitfcB |
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OK, let's just close all the courts and sentence everyone by what the Metropolitan police 'believe'.
It's not as if they have ever had any issues with racism or corruption.
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| Chris Kaba verdict on 11:17 - Oct 22 with 1885 views | leitrimblue |
| Chris Kaba verdict on 11:13 - Oct 22 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I'm pretty sure I wouldn't buy a car that's been linked to a previous a shooting.
If armed police are telling me to stop, regardless of the car or situation I'm in, I would stop. |
I would suggest you wouldn't know how you would react in that situation til you were unfortunate enough to be in it.
I also imagine the person selling such a car is unlikely to mention that it had previously been used in a shooting | | | |
| Chris Kaba verdict on 11:32 - Oct 22 with 1818 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Chris Kaba verdict on 11:17 - Oct 22 by leitrimblue |
I would suggest you wouldn't know how you would react in that situation til you were unfortunate enough to be in it.
I also imagine the person selling such a car is unlikely to mention that it had previously been used in a shooting |
You asked what my response would be if I or a family member was in such a situation ...I've given my answer... and your reply is well you can't know how you'd react until you've been in said situation. Brilliant. So I can't win whatever I say!
Funnily enough, reputable car dealers don't usually sell cars used in shootings. I got a bit of a discount at the Nissan garage as my Micra had been used as a display model. At least that's what I thought he said.
"Chris Kaba, the unarmed man killed by a police firearms officer, was pictured on CCTV shooting a man on a nightclub dancefloor and was alleged to be a core member of a London gang. Kaba’s family had tried to prevent publication of the information."
Seems you've backed the wrong horse here fella. | |
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| Chris Kaba verdict on 11:36 - Oct 22 with 1807 views | Vegtablue |
| Chris Kaba verdict on 11:17 - Oct 22 by leitrimblue |
I would suggest you wouldn't know how you would react in that situation til you were unfortunate enough to be in it.
I also imagine the person selling such a car is unlikely to mention that it had previously been used in a shooting |
Have you read the Sky article? Looks hard to dismiss it as a work of fiction, and that Kaba was instead the unsuspecting buyer of a gangland car. | | | |
| In this instance…. on 11:37 - Oct 22 with 1786 views | Bloots |
| Chris Kaba verdict on 11:13 - Oct 22 by leitrimblue |
OK, let's just close all the courts and sentence everyone by what the Metropolitan police 'believe'.
It's not as if they have ever had any issues with racism or corruption.
A police believe is good enough for me |
….that is a terrible take. | |
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| I doubt he’d ever “bought” a car in his life! (n/t) on 11:38 - Oct 22 with 1781 views | Bloots |
| Chris Kaba verdict on 11:36 - Oct 22 by Vegtablue |
Have you read the Sky article? Looks hard to dismiss it as a work of fiction, and that Kaba was instead the unsuspecting buyer of a gangland car. |
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| Prisons are overcrowded…. on 11:41 - Oct 22 with 1767 views | Bloots |
| Chris Kaba verdict on 11:37 - Oct 22 by DJR |
Being a "bad'un" was not relevant to the case given this from the Guardian.
"Kaba’s family had tried to prevent publication of the information. Details of Kaba’s past offending were not put before the jury in the murder trial at the Old Bailey because the judge, Mr Justice Goss, ruled they were not relevant.
Blake, at the point he pulled the trigger on 5 September 2022, did not know these details and did not know who was in the Audi Q8, which police believed was linked to a firearms incident the night before." [Post edited 22 Oct 2024 11:40]
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….its one less “murderer” we need to house.
If the officer didn’t know who the driver was, then in my opinion it’s a happy coincidence. | |
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| In this instance…. on 11:44 - Oct 22 with 1740 views | leitrimblue |
| In this instance…. on 11:37 - Oct 22 by Bloots |
….that is a terrible take. |
I'm guessing that's because your happy enough to accept 'police believe'. I think I prefer a system with courts a judge and jury etc | | | |
| Chris Kaba verdict on 11:49 - Oct 22 with 1718 views | leitrimblue |
| Chris Kaba verdict on 11:32 - Oct 22 by The_Flashing_Smile |
You asked what my response would be if I or a family member was in such a situation ...I've given my answer... and your reply is well you can't know how you'd react until you've been in said situation. Brilliant. So I can't win whatever I say!
Funnily enough, reputable car dealers don't usually sell cars used in shootings. I got a bit of a discount at the Nissan garage as my Micra had been used as a display model. At least that's what I thought he said.
"Chris Kaba, the unarmed man killed by a police firearms officer, was pictured on CCTV shooting a man on a nightclub dancefloor and was alleged to be a core member of a London gang. Kaba’s family had tried to prevent publication of the information."
Seems you've backed the wrong horse here fella. |
The thing is I haven't mentioned Kaba once. I'm merely suggesting that being in a car that's previously used in a crime and then panicking when surrounded by armed police is not enough to end a life.
I instead would rather see that person arrested and face trial by jury.
I don't think it's that controversial really | | | |
| And so you should…. on 11:50 - Oct 22 with 1699 views | Bloots |
| In this instance…. on 11:44 - Oct 22 by leitrimblue |
I'm guessing that's because your happy enough to accept 'police believe'. I think I prefer a system with courts a judge and jury etc |
….the jury found the police officer not guilty.
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| Chris Kaba verdict on 11:53 - Oct 22 with 1697 views | Vegtablue |
| Chris Kaba verdict on 11:37 - Oct 22 by DJR |
Being a "bad'un" was not relevant to the case given this from the Guardian.
"Kaba’s family had tried to prevent publication of the information. Details of Kaba’s past offending were not put before the jury in the murder trial at the Old Bailey because the judge, Mr Justice Goss, ruled they were not relevant.
Blake, at the point he pulled the trigger on 5 September 2022, did not know these details and did not know who was in the Audi Q8, which police believed was linked to a firearms incident the night before." [Post edited 22 Oct 2024 11:40]
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I think it's very relevant though that the Audi has been linked to several shootings, one days before he was killed. Knowledge it was historically and very recently a gangland murder vehicle, in combination with the actions of the driver when confronted by armed police.. I haven't followed the case properly but am unsurprised the jury came to their decision quickly. | | | |
| And so you should…. on 11:53 - Oct 22 with 1691 views | leitrimblue |
| And so you should…. on 11:50 - Oct 22 by Bloots |
….the jury found the police officer not guilty.
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And they should have been free to find Kaba guilty or not guilty
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| Chris Kaba verdict on 12:04 - Oct 22 with 1625 views | BrentwoodBlagger2 |
It seems that the family and their legal representative's took out an injunction yesterday to prevent Chris Kaba's criminal history and the video of him shooting someone being publicised. I can't imagine why they would want no one to see all that...... Glad the media are revealing it all now so we can see that he was not an 'innocent angel' after all. Involved in two previous shootings and a stabbing...... [Post edited 22 Oct 2024 12:06]
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| Chris Kaba verdict on 12:40 - Oct 22 with 1533 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Chris Kaba verdict on 11:49 - Oct 22 by leitrimblue |
The thing is I haven't mentioned Kaba once. I'm merely suggesting that being in a car that's previously used in a crime and then panicking when surrounded by armed police is not enough to end a life.
I instead would rather see that person arrested and face trial by jury.
I don't think it's that controversial really |
They weren't intending to end his life. And generally I'd agree with you, but we're talking about what happened in this specific case, which you now appear to be backtracking from now further details have emerged. | |
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| In this instance…. on 12:43 - Oct 22 with 1523 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| In this instance…. on 11:44 - Oct 22 by leitrimblue |
I'm guessing that's because your happy enough to accept 'police believe'. I think I prefer a system with courts a judge and jury etc |
What about the CCTV of him shooting a man on a nightclub dancefloor? Was that made up by the police as well? | |
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| Chris Kaba verdict on 12:57 - Oct 22 with 1485 views | DJR |
| Chris Kaba verdict on 11:49 - Oct 22 by leitrimblue |
The thing is I haven't mentioned Kaba once. I'm merely suggesting that being in a car that's previously used in a crime and then panicking when surrounded by armed police is not enough to end a life.
I instead would rather see that person arrested and face trial by jury.
I don't think it's that controversial really |
As Billy Bragg sang.
"It's you and me against the world, kid, she mumbled to herself." |  | | |
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