| Thumbs up for this team picture 12:03 - Nov 5 with 12149 views | Keno |
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| Thumbs up for this team picture on 19:31 - Nov 5 with 1735 views | SitfcB |
| Thumbs up for this team picture on 17:47 - Nov 5 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Are they actually related? I know LW seems to have spent his whole career with Ashton.
I dont really like the idea of his son being handed a role.
The Chairman thing stinks, I thought Ashton was better than thinking its OK to do both those roles. Its OK while things are going well, but can all come undone quickly if things start to go wrong. I'm sure we wouldnt struggle to find an excellent candidate to be Chairman, |
His son has had a role here for ages hasn’t he?
What does it matter though? Father in giving son job shocker… |  |
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| Thumbs up for this team picture on 19:35 - Nov 5 with 1723 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Thumbs up for this team picture on 17:49 - Nov 5 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Have you noticed Ahstons favourite new phrase?
"I would fight for this FOOTBALL CLUB with my last breath..." He mustve used that about 3 times in the last few days, [Post edited 5 Nov 2024 17:50]
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I assume his last breath will be when Ed Schwartz finally stops giving him the oxygen he needs. [Post edited 5 Nov 2024 19:36]
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| Thumbs up for this team picture on 19:41 - Nov 5 with 1696 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Thumbs up for this team picture on 19:31 - Nov 5 by SitfcB |
His son has had a role here for ages hasn’t he?
What does it matter though? Father in giving son job shocker… |
Just because nepotism has gone on for a long time, doesn't make it right.
CEO appoints himself as Chairman and works alongside brother in law and son.
All a bit cosy maybe. |  |
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| Thumbs up for this team picture on 20:03 - Nov 5 with 1642 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Thumbs up for this team picture on 19:41 - Nov 5 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Just because nepotism has gone on for a long time, doesn't make it right.
CEO appoints himself as Chairman and works alongside brother in law and son.
All a bit cosy maybe. |
Isn't there a link in there somewhere too around the recruitment set up and agencies. Something Bristol fans used to say about werhun when he came over. |  |
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| Thumbs up for this team picture on 20:17 - Nov 5 with 1622 views | SitfcB |
| Thumbs up for this team picture on 19:41 - Nov 5 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Just because nepotism has gone on for a long time, doesn't make it right.
CEO appoints himself as Chairman and works alongside brother in law and son.
All a bit cosy maybe. |
The only new big is Ma being chairman as well but it’s obviously working because look where we are compared to where we were…so not really bothered! | |
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| Thumbs up for this team picture on 20:19 - Nov 5 with 1614 views | Chris_ITFC |
| Thumbs up for this team picture on 17:51 - Nov 5 by FrimleyBlue |
It's also not very chairman like to be going public with your thoughts on officiating but you're not happy to discuss to the supporters why you won't use a certain programme cover.
I honestly don't like the way he's spoken about the officiating tbh.
Many will love it. Fair enough for them. But it's not very professional imo. |
I’ll get downvoted to high heaven, but he’s really starting to get on my wick.
He’s so full of hot air and loves the sound of his own voice, especially when talking himself up, e.g. claiming credit for the Sheeran sponsorship.
As CEO, fine. But as Chairman, no.
All the BS about Howard Webb is another example of inflating his ego and self-importance, but really serves no purpose in Premier League survival and really just makes us seem like the tinpot little guys rather than a well-run professional outfit. All that nonsense about lighting Howard Webb’s phone up is more what you’d hear from a mouthy non-league manager. |  |
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| Thumbs up for this team picture on 20:22 - Nov 5 with 1587 views | Zx1988 |
| Thumbs up for this team picture on 19:41 - Nov 5 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Just because nepotism has gone on for a long time, doesn't make it right.
CEO appoints himself as Chairman and works alongside brother in law and son.
All a bit cosy maybe. |
So there's a directorial board of four:
Ashton
Werhun
Ball
Bakay
If the board were to vote on something, and the vote was tied 50:50, would the chairman normally get the casting vote?
I'm not suggesting that the situation is anything but 100% above board, but in the event of a controversial vote, would Ashton only have to convince his brother-in-law to back him in order to guarantee a tie and be given the casting vote? |  |
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| Thumbs up for this team picture on 20:23 - Nov 5 with 1583 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
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The only new big is Ma being chairman as well but it’s obviously working because look where we are compared to where we were…so not really bothered! |
That's completely false.
All the progress was made when Ashton was CEO with O'Leary as Chairman.
Even Ashton said what an amazing role O'Leary played:
“Mike is, and will always continue to be, a long-term friend. He was instrumental in the acquisition of the Club, and has been an amazing support to me over many years - in particular during the past three years at Ipswich Town Football Club. I'll be forever grateful to him for that.”
Makes no sense for one man to do both roles. Plus its very bad governance.
Re his son being handed a job, the nepotism isnt a huge issue for the club. But as a rule I am against nepotism. Happy to agree to differ on that one. | |
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| Thumbs up for this team picture on 20:24 - Nov 5 with 1578 views | Zx1988 |
| Thumbs up for this team picture on 20:19 - Nov 5 by Chris_ITFC |
I’ll get downvoted to high heaven, but he’s really starting to get on my wick.
He’s so full of hot air and loves the sound of his own voice, especially when talking himself up, e.g. claiming credit for the Sheeran sponsorship.
As CEO, fine. But as Chairman, no.
All the BS about Howard Webb is another example of inflating his ego and self-importance, but really serves no purpose in Premier League survival and really just makes us seem like the tinpot little guys rather than a well-run professional outfit. All that nonsense about lighting Howard Webb’s phone up is more what you’d hear from a mouthy non-league manager. |
Claiming credit for the Sheeran sponsorship was an incredibly poor move, in my eyes.
At the time it was announced, it was made clear that it was almost entirely Rosie Richardson's doing, and she was quite rightly given a huge amount of credit for it.
Ashton writing her out of the story and claiming the credit is a d*ck move of the highest order, especially when there's plenty of other stuff I'm sure he could legitimately take credit for. | |
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| Thumbs up for this team picture on 20:24 - Nov 5 with 1576 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Thumbs up for this team picture on 20:22 - Nov 5 by Zx1988 |
So there's a directorial board of four:
Ashton
Werhun
Ball
Bakay
If the board were to vote on something, and the vote was tied 50:50, would the chairman normally get the casting vote?
I'm not suggesting that the situation is anything but 100% above board, but in the event of a controversial vote, would Ashton only have to convince his brother-in-law to back him in order to guarantee a tie and be given the casting vote? |
One person being CEO and Chairman is generally seen as being bad corporate governance.
O'Leary was acknowledged as a great Chairman, and I think it could only have been a good thing if we had appointed another experienced Chairman. | |
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| Thumbs up for this team picture on 20:27 - Nov 5 with 1571 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Thumbs up for this team picture on 20:19 - Nov 5 by Chris_ITFC |
I’ll get downvoted to high heaven, but he’s really starting to get on my wick.
He’s so full of hot air and loves the sound of his own voice, especially when talking himself up, e.g. claiming credit for the Sheeran sponsorship.
As CEO, fine. But as Chairman, no.
All the BS about Howard Webb is another example of inflating his ego and self-importance, but really serves no purpose in Premier League survival and really just makes us seem like the tinpot little guys rather than a well-run professional outfit. All that nonsense about lighting Howard Webb’s phone up is more what you’d hear from a mouthy non-league manager. |
You're not alone.
I think hes done a good job, but I cant listen to his interviews because his tone, delivery and corny phrases annoy me. The latest soundbite;
"I will give my last breath defending this football club."
Also, I bet Howard Webb chuckled when I saw what Ashton was saying. [Post edited 5 Nov 2024 20:28]
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| Thumbs up for this team picture on 20:58 - Nov 5 with 1515 views | SitfcB |
| Thumbs up for this team picture on 20:24 - Nov 5 by Zx1988 |
Claiming credit for the Sheeran sponsorship was an incredibly poor move, in my eyes.
At the time it was announced, it was made clear that it was almost entirely Rosie Richardson's doing, and she was quite rightly given a huge amount of credit for it.
Ashton writing her out of the story and claiming the credit is a d*ck move of the highest order, especially when there's plenty of other stuff I'm sure he could legitimately take credit for. |
Where has he claimed credit? | |
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| Thumbs up for this team picture on 21:01 - Nov 5 with 1500 views | SitfcB |
| Thumbs up for this team picture on 20:19 - Nov 5 by Chris_ITFC |
I’ll get downvoted to high heaven, but he’s really starting to get on my wick.
He’s so full of hot air and loves the sound of his own voice, especially when talking himself up, e.g. claiming credit for the Sheeran sponsorship.
As CEO, fine. But as Chairman, no.
All the BS about Howard Webb is another example of inflating his ego and self-importance, but really serves no purpose in Premier League survival and really just makes us seem like the tinpot little guys rather than a well-run professional outfit. All that nonsense about lighting Howard Webb’s phone up is more what you’d hear from a mouthy non-league manager. |
Not much else to moan about these days is there…
Let’s go back to the days of Marcus Evans running the club where it was a ghost town and we heard nothing from no one, ever.
Why should we roll over and just accept bad decisions? Of course he’s going to do and say what he’s done, he’s not the first and won’t be the last, happens with clubs/managers up and down the country every week near enough. | |
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| Thumbs up for this team picture on 21:11 - Nov 5 with 1479 views | Chris_ITFC |
| Thumbs up for this team picture on 20:58 - Nov 5 by SitfcB |
Where has he claimed credit? |
“Ashton: First, we identified a young manager in Kieran McKenna (then a first-team assistant coach at Manchester United, having worked previously in their academy). That’s something I’ve done historically. I appointed Aidy Boothroyd at Watford, I gave Brendan Rodgers his first job. Malky Mackay. Sean Dyche, Michael Appleton at Oxford United. Lee Johnson at Bristol City. All very similar DNA.
On the pitch, we started to build a specific model of operation. We had to educate a fanbase and re-educate a very prominent former players’ association — Mick Mills, Terry Butcher, Russel Osman, Matt Holland, the list goes on. They are great people and we love our history here, but we’ve got to focus on the future.
We ran workshops and dinners and explained that McKenna was not going to play 4-4-2 or direct football. He was going to play a different brand of football and we would need to take the fans, former players and media with us to build something in League One that would take us to the Premier League.
We used the U.S. money to put a new pitch in at Portman Road, we put new pitches in at the training ground. We built bit by bit but we built a rocket ship that took shirt sales from 10,000 a year when we joined to 100,000 this year. We took season tickets from just over 10,000 to 22,000. We had regular sell-outs of 30,000 in League One.
We built a young, hungry team and rebuilt our community foundation. We re-engaged with a local man who became our shirt sponsor, (award-winning pop star) Ed Sheeran, and we’ve built something special.” | |
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| Thumbs up for this team picture on 21:11 - Nov 5 with 1469 views | Zx1988 |
| Thumbs up for this team picture on 20:58 - Nov 5 by SitfcB |
Where has he claimed credit? |
Mentioned here. I don't subscibe to The Athletic, so I'm currently trying to see if there's a way to sneak access to corroborate and provide the quote.
Interesting comment from Ashton in the Athletic today by C_HealyIsAPleasure 19 Oct 2024 9:13He also claims in that piece that we were regularly getting sellouts of 30k in League One (attendances were good clearly but we never hit 30k and even the 2nd last home game had c2k seats available), that we’ve sold 100k shirts this year (63k last year and most recent reports said we had sold 60k so far this time, so this would be quite a jump) and takes credit for re-engaging and getting Ed Sheeran as our shirt sponsor (something that by all accounts had been lined up before he got here)
So I’ll probably take anything he says with a large pinch of salt until there is a more concrete announcement!
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| Thumbs up for this team picture on 21:18 - Nov 5 with 1445 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Thumbs up for this team picture on 21:11 - Nov 5 by Chris_ITFC |
“Ashton: First, we identified a young manager in Kieran McKenna (then a first-team assistant coach at Manchester United, having worked previously in their academy). That’s something I’ve done historically. I appointed Aidy Boothroyd at Watford, I gave Brendan Rodgers his first job. Malky Mackay. Sean Dyche, Michael Appleton at Oxford United. Lee Johnson at Bristol City. All very similar DNA.
On the pitch, we started to build a specific model of operation. We had to educate a fanbase and re-educate a very prominent former players’ association — Mick Mills, Terry Butcher, Russel Osman, Matt Holland, the list goes on. They are great people and we love our history here, but we’ve got to focus on the future.
We ran workshops and dinners and explained that McKenna was not going to play 4-4-2 or direct football. He was going to play a different brand of football and we would need to take the fans, former players and media with us to build something in League One that would take us to the Premier League.
We used the U.S. money to put a new pitch in at Portman Road, we put new pitches in at the training ground. We built bit by bit but we built a rocket ship that took shirt sales from 10,000 a year when we joined to 100,000 this year. We took season tickets from just over 10,000 to 22,000. We had regular sell-outs of 30,000 in League One.
We built a young, hungry team and rebuilt our community foundation. We re-engaged with a local man who became our shirt sponsor, (award-winning pop star) Ed Sheeran, and we’ve built something special.” |
Never noticed that bit before.
We had to re educate the fans and past players.
We weren't going to play 4 4 2 etc etc
Erm. Burley wasn't a 4 4 2 guy. And we've not really had that many either. Have we? | |
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| Thumbs up for this team picture on 21:18 - Nov 5 with 1447 views | Chris_ITFC |
| Thumbs up for this team picture on 21:01 - Nov 5 by SitfcB |
Not much else to moan about these days is there…
Let’s go back to the days of Marcus Evans running the club where it was a ghost town and we heard nothing from no one, ever.
Why should we roll over and just accept bad decisions? Of course he’s going to do and say what he’s done, he’s not the first and won’t be the last, happens with clubs/managers up and down the country every week near enough. |
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| Thumbs up for this team picture on 21:21 - Nov 5 with 1426 views | WicklowBlue |
Going to get pelters here and so be it!
The absolute state of this thread!!!!! For me it sums up the modern age where everything needs to have a back story, something to nit pick over, blame and create controversy!
It's a first team photo for God's sake nothing more nothing less. As other posters shared compare the back room staff against Lamberts!!?? It is a total fact that the Club had been run on a shoestring and now we are criticising including the backroom team in the photo?
If all in the photo contribute in some way to us remaining in the Prem why not include them? They are one team working super hard to keep us where we are.
I've no problem with Ashton and McK being front and centre , nor other appointments where I personally don't know their qualifications.
Anyways rant over....the truth will be the results on the pitch. |  | | |
| Thumbs up for this team picture on 21:25 - Nov 5 with 1409 views | SitfcB |
| Thumbs up for this team picture on 21:11 - Nov 5 by Chris_ITFC |
“Ashton: First, we identified a young manager in Kieran McKenna (then a first-team assistant coach at Manchester United, having worked previously in their academy). That’s something I’ve done historically. I appointed Aidy Boothroyd at Watford, I gave Brendan Rodgers his first job. Malky Mackay. Sean Dyche, Michael Appleton at Oxford United. Lee Johnson at Bristol City. All very similar DNA.
On the pitch, we started to build a specific model of operation. We had to educate a fanbase and re-educate a very prominent former players’ association — Mick Mills, Terry Butcher, Russel Osman, Matt Holland, the list goes on. They are great people and we love our history here, but we’ve got to focus on the future.
We ran workshops and dinners and explained that McKenna was not going to play 4-4-2 or direct football. He was going to play a different brand of football and we would need to take the fans, former players and media with us to build something in League One that would take us to the Premier League.
We used the U.S. money to put a new pitch in at Portman Road, we put new pitches in at the training ground. We built bit by bit but we built a rocket ship that took shirt sales from 10,000 a year when we joined to 100,000 this year. We took season tickets from just over 10,000 to 22,000. We had regular sell-outs of 30,000 in League One.
We built a young, hungry team and rebuilt our community foundation. We re-engaged with a local man who became our shirt sponsor, (award-winning pop star) Ed Sheeran, and we’ve built something special.” |
Not sure that’s taking credit?
Re-engaged as in they got in contact with him etc to get him more involved? Make a friendship? Carry on the sponsorship?
I’m sure I’ve seen Ashton say before about Sheeran sponsorship initially happening just before he arrived. | |
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| Thumbs up for this team picture on 21:35 - Nov 5 with 1368 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Thumbs up for this team picture on 21:21 - Nov 5 by WicklowBlue |
Going to get pelters here and so be it!
The absolute state of this thread!!!!! For me it sums up the modern age where everything needs to have a back story, something to nit pick over, blame and create controversy!
It's a first team photo for God's sake nothing more nothing less. As other posters shared compare the back room staff against Lamberts!!?? It is a total fact that the Club had been run on a shoestring and now we are criticising including the backroom team in the photo?
If all in the photo contribute in some way to us remaining in the Prem why not include them? They are one team working super hard to keep us where we are.
I've no problem with Ashton and McK being front and centre , nor other appointments where I personally don't know their qualifications.
Anyways rant over....the truth will be the results on the pitch. |
I find it odd. But it's not something that's a bother
I do find ashton painful to listen too. Many have through the years regardless of success.
What I don't like Is his slow movement into a clegg type character. He's not quite fallen to calling supporters customers yet but he's not far off from his refusal to discuss the programme situation. It is a supporter thing and he should discuss it for the supporters. You kinda feel 2022 ashton would have done. | |
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| Thumbs up for this team picture on 21:40 - Nov 5 with 1354 views | Chris_ITFC |
| Thumbs up for this team picture on 21:25 - Nov 5 by SitfcB |
Not sure that’s taking credit?
Re-engaged as in they got in contact with him etc to get him more involved? Make a friendship? Carry on the sponsorship?
I’m sure I’ve seen Ashton say before about Sheeran sponsorship initially happening just before he arrived. |
That isn’t really the definitive word.
“We re-engaged with a local man who became our shirt sponsor..”
Not who “was” our shirt sponsor, but one who “became” our shirt sponsor when they re-engaged.
Which isn’t what happened.
It’s not a massive thing, but he’s clearly listing in a rundown of his/GC’s achievements. | |
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| Thumbs up for this team picture on 22:37 - Nov 5 with 1291 views | stonojnr |
| Thumbs up for this team picture on 21:40 - Nov 5 by Chris_ITFC |
That isn’t really the definitive word.
“We re-engaged with a local man who became our shirt sponsor..”
Not who “was” our shirt sponsor, but one who “became” our shirt sponsor when they re-engaged.
Which isn’t what happened.
It’s not a massive thing, but he’s clearly listing in a rundown of his/GC’s achievements. |
theres an element of keeping the relationship going though that is down to Ashton. Ed didnt sign up for 4 years off the bat, Ed didnt sign up to design his own kit, Ed probably never expected to end up hosting a promotion party for the team or get a promotion medal like he did, and now he's invested money into the club
the relationship is clearly working for both club and Ed & thats got nothing to do with who made the first contact with whom. | | | |
| Thumbs up for this team picture on 00:36 - Nov 6 with 1204 views | WicklowBlue |
| Thumbs up for this team picture on 21:35 - Nov 5 by FrimleyBlue |
I find it odd. But it's not something that's a bother
I do find ashton painful to listen too. Many have through the years regardless of success.
What I don't like Is his slow movement into a clegg type character. He's not quite fallen to calling supporters customers yet but he's not far off from his refusal to discuss the programme situation. It is a supporter thing and he should discuss it for the supporters. You kinda feel 2022 ashton would have done. |
Sorry Frimmers but that has nothing to do with my post!
Which TL:DR was it's a first team picture with the supporting cast. End of! | | | |
| Thumbs up for this team picture on 05:58 - Nov 6 with 1130 views | Vic |
I find this slightly depressing tbh. What on earth is MA doing sitting there? |  |
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| Thumbs up for this team picture on 16:54 - Nov 6 with 992 views | Sharkey |
| Thumbs up for this team picture on 12:28 - Nov 5 by BasingstokeBlue |
That's A LOT of coaching staff, muscling in on the action..
Compare and contrast with 5 years ago:
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Lambert's staff. (from Wikipedia, so I'm not sure how complete it is, and whetherer the lists are like-for like. (I mean who sorted out the logistics, for example?)
Manager Paul Lambert
Assistant Manager Stuart Taylor
First-team Coach Matt Gill
Goalkeeping Coach Jimmy Walker
Head of Athletic Performance & Sports Science Jim Henry
Strength & Conditioning Coach Tom Walsh
Head Physiotherapist Matt Byard
Assistant Head Physiotherapist Alex Chapman
Head of Performance Analysis Will Stephenson
First-team Assistant Analyst George Buckley
Recruitment Analyst Alex Hood
Opposition Analyst Gerard Nash
Kitman James Pullen
Now (From the club'cs official site:. Includes U21 bosses, who aren't included above), also not in new photo.)
Manager: Kieran McKenna
Assistant Manager: Martyn Pert
Director of Football Operations: Gary Probert
Director of Performance: Andy Rolls
First-Team Coach: Lee Grant
First-Team Coach: Charlie Turnbull
First-Team Coach: Sone Aluko
Set-Play and First-Team Coach: Mark Hudson
Head of Goalkeeping: Rene Gilmartin
Head of Athletic Performance: Matt Allen
Head of Analysis: Jamie Osman
Head of First-Team Recruitment (Analysis): Will Stephenson
First-Team Assistant Performance Analysts: Morgan Howells, Judah Davies & Joe Western
U21 Coaches: John McGreal & David Wright
First-Team Fitness Coach: Jon Ashton
Head Physio: Matt Byard
First-Team Sports Therapist: Alice Grindrod
Head Strength & Conditioning Coach: Ivan Mukandi
First-Team Sports Scientist: Kit Barnes
Head of Coaching & Player Development: Bryan Klug
Recruitment Analysts: Adam Cuthbert & Dan Hill
First-Team Logistics Manager: James Tedford
Loans Analyst: Jacob Ashton
Kitman: Lee Owen
Assistant Kitman: Jim Evans |  | | |
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