| Drill, baby, drill! 11:00 - Nov 7 with 5656 views | StokieBlue |
This year is set to be the warmest year on record and the first year where global average temperatures break 1.5C above pre-industrial levels [1].
2024 also saw a lot of extreme weather events including a very active hurricane season and the events in Spain, both of which can be linked to climate change.
Along with the "drill, baby, drill!" narrative the Trump campaign has also stated he wants to withdraw from the Paris agreement [2]. The only other countries to do this are Iran, Yemen and Libya.
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[1]. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1dpnxnvv2go
[2]. https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/28/trump-paris-climate-treaty-withdrawal-a |  | | |  |
| Drill, baby, drill! on 11:07 - Nov 7 with 4464 views | positivity |
iran, usa, yemen, libya. the new axis of medieval? |  |
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| Drill, baby, drill! on 11:13 - Nov 7 with 4422 views | reusersfreekicks |
The first disastrous consequence of the vote
There will be many to follow |  | | |
| Drill, baby, drill! on 11:50 - Nov 7 with 4336 views | Guthrum |
Basically he wants a short-term jobs dividend in areas of core support from increasing oil extraction (Gulf of Mexico coast) and restarting coalmining (Appalachians). Whether those extracted hydrocarbons will really get much use (or be profitable) is open to question.
In a lot of the world - particularly China - renewables are seriously gaining traction. Arabian nations are diversifying as fast as they can. It is possible that momentum is already too strongly in action for a Trumpian hydrocarbon reaction to make headway. |  |
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| Drill, baby, drill! on 11:52 - Nov 7 with 4316 views | NthQldITFC |
I tend to think most of our ineffective leaders are just short-termists who understand the problem but prioritise their survival in post. This orange one, however, is probably just a moron, and so in some ways might be seen as less culpable, whilst being more of a problem.
Until pressure from the electorate forces a radical change of direction in more mature and moderate countries there's very little hope of even mildly mitigating the disastrous future we face. |  |
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| Drill, baby, drill! on 11:53 - Nov 7 with 4309 views | giant_stow |
| Drill, baby, drill! on 11:50 - Nov 7 by Guthrum |
Basically he wants a short-term jobs dividend in areas of core support from increasing oil extraction (Gulf of Mexico coast) and restarting coalmining (Appalachians). Whether those extracted hydrocarbons will really get much use (or be profitable) is open to question.
In a lot of the world - particularly China - renewables are seriously gaining traction. Arabian nations are diversifying as fast as they can. It is possible that momentum is already too strongly in action for a Trumpian hydrocarbon reaction to make headway. |
Aren't the costs of renewable energy always getting lower / more economically competitive too? Or is that wishful thinking?! |  |
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| Drill, baby, drill! on 12:00 - Nov 7 with 4237 views | Guthrum |
| Drill, baby, drill! on 11:53 - Nov 7 by giant_stow |
Aren't the costs of renewable energy always getting lower / more economically competitive too? Or is that wishful thinking?! |
To some extent, altho the initial infrastructure setup still costs. Electricity produced by remewables once going is very cheap - the "fuel" is essentially free, with no waste byproducts (beyond maintenance and renewal of equipment). | |
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| Drill, baby, drill! on 12:02 - Nov 7 with 4221 views | blueasfook |
| Drill, baby, drill! on 11:50 - Nov 7 by Guthrum |
Basically he wants a short-term jobs dividend in areas of core support from increasing oil extraction (Gulf of Mexico coast) and restarting coalmining (Appalachians). Whether those extracted hydrocarbons will really get much use (or be profitable) is open to question.
In a lot of the world - particularly China - renewables are seriously gaining traction. Arabian nations are diversifying as fast as they can. It is possible that momentum is already too strongly in action for a Trumpian hydrocarbon reaction to make headway. |
I think he's talking about exploration and potentially opening up new oil fields in the arctic too. What an asshat. |  |
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| Drill, baby, drill! on 12:04 - Nov 7 with 4201 views | nodge_blue |
Ive felt for sometime that we will need science to save us rather than look to a collaborative, global, human effort.
whether science can is doubtful in the scale we need.
Bill Gates says we will hit 3 degrees of warming. |  |
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| Drill, baby, drill! on 12:05 - Nov 7 with 4189 views | JakeITFC |
| Drill, baby, drill! on 11:53 - Nov 7 by giant_stow |
Aren't the costs of renewable energy always getting lower / more economically competitive too? Or is that wishful thinking?! |
Technology costs yes, but the cost of subsidies, management of the system, taxes/levies etc. are all increasing (in the UK at least). |  | | |
| Drill, baby, drill! on 12:06 - Nov 7 with 4186 views | positivity |
| Drill, baby, drill! on 11:53 - Nov 7 by giant_stow |
Aren't the costs of renewable energy always getting lower / more economically competitive too? Or is that wishful thinking?! |
they are, but fossil fuels (and also nuclear power) are heavily subsidised in many parts of the world.
america's let china get a big headstart on producing renewables, and it'd need a big political will to catch up now.
if trump puts big tarriffs on imports, then renewables probably will continue to be more expensive than elsewhere, which is madness given the massive resources (sun, wind and land) that they have there | |
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| Drill, baby, drill! on 12:14 - Nov 7 with 4129 views | BarcaBlue |
Just read that the official rainfall numbers have come in for the Valencia floods...
771.8 litres in 14 hours, the equivalent of 18 months rain for the region
42 litres in 10 minutes
184.6 litres in 1 hour
...yet according to the Elephant on here that's just weather.
I live at an altitude of 1000 metres in the Catalan Pyrenees and we are now getting regular 40 degree days in the Summer. Yesterday I was out hiking at above 2000 metres and mid-November there is still no sign of snow in the mountains. To be honest, we're fcked. |  | | |
| Drill, baby, drill! on 13:11 - Nov 7 with 3762 views | giant_stow |
| Drill, baby, drill! on 12:14 - Nov 7 by BarcaBlue |
Just read that the official rainfall numbers have come in for the Valencia floods...
771.8 litres in 14 hours, the equivalent of 18 months rain for the region
42 litres in 10 minutes
184.6 litres in 1 hour
...yet according to the Elephant on here that's just weather.
I live at an altitude of 1000 metres in the Catalan Pyrenees and we are now getting regular 40 degree days in the Summer. Yesterday I was out hiking at above 2000 metres and mid-November there is still no sign of snow in the mountains. To be honest, we're fcked. |
My mrs' late father lived near Amelie Les Bain just the other side from you - wonderful part of the world.
Re those numbers, I find it hard to visualise how much rain that is, but have seen some videos and it looks mind-blowing. | |
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| Drill, baby, drill! on 13:22 - Nov 7 with 3676 views | DJR |
| Drill, baby, drill! on 12:14 - Nov 7 by BarcaBlue |
Just read that the official rainfall numbers have come in for the Valencia floods...
771.8 litres in 14 hours, the equivalent of 18 months rain for the region
42 litres in 10 minutes
184.6 litres in 1 hour
...yet according to the Elephant on here that's just weather.
I live at an altitude of 1000 metres in the Catalan Pyrenees and we are now getting regular 40 degree days in the Summer. Yesterday I was out hiking at above 2000 metres and mid-November there is still no sign of snow in the mountains. To be honest, we're fcked. |
2.5 feet of rain in 14 hours is truly frightening.
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| Drill, baby, drill! on 13:25 - Nov 7 with 3626 views | giant_stow |
| Drill, baby, drill! on 13:22 - Nov 7 by DJR |
2.5 feet of rain in 14 hours is truly frightening.
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"2.5 feet of rain in 14 hours is truly frightening."
I can visualise that - astonishing. | |
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| Drill, baby, drill! on 13:31 - Nov 7 with 3532 views | DJR |
| Drill, baby, drill! on 13:25 - Nov 7 by giant_stow |
"2.5 feet of rain in 14 hours is truly frightening."
I can visualise that - astonishing. |
According to the Met Office, the UK record is 9 inches in 24 hours. | | | |
| Drill, baby, drill! on 13:51 - Nov 7 with 3430 views | Bangor31 |
The only slight positive I can offer here is that most companies have debt with top tier banks. These banks have ESG policies that must be adhered to. You may see more drilling in the US but that will probably result is lesser activity in other regions of the world.
Understand this isn't overly positive but hopefully not as bad as it may look on paper | | | |
| Drill, baby, drill! on 14:07 - Nov 7 with 3336 views | benrhyddingblue |
I’ve covered climate change and (so-called) efforts to try and deal with it for over 20 years as a journalist. While Trump is a disaster for climate efforts, in US political terms he’s not that much different to any previous Republican presidency on the issue. The focus therefore, once again is back on the states and there is plenty happening at the state level. Unfortunately states can’t sign up to international treaties, such as the Paris Agreement, although they can mandate to set goals etc in line with it. Trouble is the rest of the world bar a few countries aren’t really doing enough either and a Trump presidency may give some countries an argument to do less or nothing given his stance on the issue. | | | |
| Drill, baby, drill! on 23:41 - Nov 11 with 2466 views | positivity |
shill, baby, shill (as will probably be the case with most trump appointments) | |
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| Drill, baby, drill! on 07:02 - Nov 12 with 2298 views | ElephantintheRoom |
| Drill, baby, drill! on 12:14 - Nov 7 by BarcaBlue |
Just read that the official rainfall numbers have come in for the Valencia floods...
771.8 litres in 14 hours, the equivalent of 18 months rain for the region
42 litres in 10 minutes
184.6 litres in 1 hour
...yet according to the Elephant on here that's just weather.
I live at an altitude of 1000 metres in the Catalan Pyrenees and we are now getting regular 40 degree days in the Summer. Yesterday I was out hiking at above 2000 metres and mid-November there is still no sign of snow in the mountains. To be honest, we're fcked. |
I think you’ll find the area used to get regular 40 degree days. Sometimes more, sometimes less - because there’s no such thing as an average. When I used to go hiking in the Pyrenees in search of bears the weather forecaster used to eulogise such days - but that was before sunny days were portrayed as scary red on maps.
The world is emerging from an ice age. It’s getting warmer because it got colder. And bits of Spain and Southern France get devastated by heavy rain every year, as they always have - just as bits of the USA get extreme weather so beloved by 24 news channels. If you want to wet yourself about extreme rainfall have a look at Florida and the Mississippi in the 1920s. It’s rather unfashionable to point out that extreme weather events have always occurred. But they have - just as they’ll continue, | |
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| Drill, baby, drill! on 07:07 - Nov 12 with 2288 views | BarcaBlue |
| Drill, baby, drill! on 07:02 - Nov 12 by ElephantintheRoom |
I think you’ll find the area used to get regular 40 degree days. Sometimes more, sometimes less - because there’s no such thing as an average. When I used to go hiking in the Pyrenees in search of bears the weather forecaster used to eulogise such days - but that was before sunny days were portrayed as scary red on maps.
The world is emerging from an ice age. It’s getting warmer because it got colder. And bits of Spain and Southern France get devastated by heavy rain every year, as they always have - just as bits of the USA get extreme weather so beloved by 24 news channels. If you want to wet yourself about extreme rainfall have a look at Florida and the Mississippi in the 1920s. It’s rather unfashionable to point out that extreme weather events have always occurred. But they have - just as they’ll continue, |
My only takeaway from that head in the sand nonsense is that the bears in the Pyrenees weren't fortunate enough to meet you. | | | |
| Drill, baby, drill! on 07:56 - Nov 12 with 2171 views | CoachRob |
| Drill, baby, drill! on 07:02 - Nov 12 by ElephantintheRoom |
I think you’ll find the area used to get regular 40 degree days. Sometimes more, sometimes less - because there’s no such thing as an average. When I used to go hiking in the Pyrenees in search of bears the weather forecaster used to eulogise such days - but that was before sunny days were portrayed as scary red on maps.
The world is emerging from an ice age. It’s getting warmer because it got colder. And bits of Spain and Southern France get devastated by heavy rain every year, as they always have - just as bits of the USA get extreme weather so beloved by 24 news channels. If you want to wet yourself about extreme rainfall have a look at Florida and the Mississippi in the 1920s. It’s rather unfashionable to point out that extreme weather events have always occurred. But they have - just as they’ll continue, |
Very weird how you take data compiled by scientists and then put your own unqualified spin on it. You did this on a previous thread where you took paleo climate data to confirm a history of changing climate on Earth. Earth's climate has been converging to greater stability, but now anthropogenic emissions are destabilising this system and causing greater extremes. Why do you use the data from scientists and then disagree with their conclusions? Is the Clausius-Clapeyron relation incorrect in your 'expert' opinion? |  | | |
| Drill, baby, drill! on 08:00 - Nov 12 with 2130 views | blueasfook |
| Drill, baby, drill! on 13:31 - Nov 7 by DJR |
According to the Met Office, the UK record is 9 inches in 24 hours. |
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| Drill, baby, drill! on 08:32 - Nov 12 with 2065 views | NthQldITFC |
| Drill, baby, drill! on 07:02 - Nov 12 by ElephantintheRoom |
I think you’ll find the area used to get regular 40 degree days. Sometimes more, sometimes less - because there’s no such thing as an average. When I used to go hiking in the Pyrenees in search of bears the weather forecaster used to eulogise such days - but that was before sunny days were portrayed as scary red on maps.
The world is emerging from an ice age. It’s getting warmer because it got colder. And bits of Spain and Southern France get devastated by heavy rain every year, as they always have - just as bits of the USA get extreme weather so beloved by 24 news channels. If you want to wet yourself about extreme rainfall have a look at Florida and the Mississippi in the 1920s. It’s rather unfashionable to point out that extreme weather events have always occurred. But they have - just as they’ll continue, |
You make me really angry, which I guess is a win for you, but ultimately I'm pleased that when it comes down to it I can feel sorry for you.
But I know I'm letting myself down with a post like this. That's what you do. | |
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