| So, here comes the "utter deregulation or exclusion" threat on 12:26 - Nov 16 with 1819 views | GlasgowBlue |
There are health risks associated with eating meat of any kind. The healthiest and ethical choice is to go vegetarian or vegan. |  |
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| So, here comes the "utter deregulation or exclusion" threat on 12:29 - Nov 16 with 1793 views | blueasfook |
| So, here comes the "utter deregulation or exclusion" threat on 12:26 - Nov 16 by GlasgowBlue |
There are health risks associated with eating meat of any kind. The healthiest and ethical choice is to go vegetarian or vegan. |
Ultimately it's the consumers choice. I doubt people will be forced to buy chlorinated chicken if they don't want it. Besides, how much fresh meat products do we/would we import from the US? Very little I would think. |  |
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| So, here comes the "utter deregulation or exclusion" threat on 12:54 - Nov 16 with 1723 views | Churchman |
I’ve eaten chicken 100s of times in America and I’m ok - apart from the extra arm and the brain rotting away.
Seriously, the U.K. needs to form its own economic model and ignore any noise from America. We do a lot of trade with the US without a trade ‘deal’. It’s our biggest trading partner and that’s fine. Any arrangement they may want will be to their advantage, whether it’s pharmaceuticals or anything else so care required.
I take with a pinch of salt anything US politicians of any persuasion might wish for. Their interests may not necessarily be ours. There’s a little irony in this bloke Moore talking about economic freedom when the main Trump economic strategy is tariffs and America first. Freedom for whom? |  | | |
| So, here comes the "utter deregulation or exclusion" threat on 13:11 - Nov 16 with 1681 views | BlueBadger |
I'm less worried about that than I am the prospect of Highly Efficient US Private Sector coming in for NHS and outsourced public services. [Post edited 16 Nov 2024 15:05]
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| So, here comes the "utter deregulation or exclusion" threat on 13:16 - Nov 16 with 1650 views | redrickstuhaart |
| So, here comes the "utter deregulation or exclusion" threat on 12:29 - Nov 16 by blueasfook |
Ultimately it's the consumers choice. I doubt people will be forced to buy chlorinated chicken if they don't want it. Besides, how much fresh meat products do we/would we import from the US? Very little I would think. |
I think thats nonsense. If it is permitted, it will find its way into all those processed foods people routinely eat, and will be cheap.
Curiously, it might even be the sort of thing that RFK opposes. He does seem to have some reasonable inclinations in terms of processed food culture. |  | | |
| So, here comes the "utter deregulation or exclusion" threat on 13:33 - Nov 16 with 1598 views | bournemouthblue |
| So, here comes the "utter deregulation or exclusion" threat on 12:26 - Nov 16 by GlasgowBlue |
There are health risks associated with eating meat of any kind. The healthiest and ethical choice is to go vegetarian or vegan. |
Nutritionally there's very little argument for not eating meat and that's not coming from me, that's from a well known nutritionist who's biggest selling product is a vegan protein powder [Post edited 16 Nov 2024 20:49]
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| So, here comes the "utter deregulation or exclusion" threat on 13:43 - Nov 16 with 1545 views | blueasfook |
| So, here comes the "utter deregulation or exclusion" threat on 13:16 - Nov 16 by redrickstuhaart |
I think thats nonsense. If it is permitted, it will find its way into all those processed foods people routinely eat, and will be cheap.
Curiously, it might even be the sort of thing that RFK opposes. He does seem to have some reasonable inclinations in terms of processed food culture. |
I saw some video of him pumping iron the other day. For an old boy he is pretty ripped! He obviously takes care of himself. RFK is an interesting character. I read he was a heroin addict for 14 years. | |
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| So, here comes the "utter deregulation or exclusion" threat on 13:45 - Nov 16 with 1525 views | Swansea_Blue |
Mr Moore is being a bit disingenuous: Moore said: “I think we have the best agriculture centres in the world. So I wouldn’t see that as a problem from this side of the ocean, but I do understand that in Britain. I know the last time I was in London, that was a big issue with many of the British folks I talked to.”
It’s a huge issue over there. The stores are full of products labelled hormone free and they’re very popular. Where people have a choice and are provided with information about the provenance of their food, it’s probably not a big deal. I’d worry about where that’s not possible - school meals and other mass catering that driven solely by prices. |  |
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| So, here comes the "utter deregulation or exclusion" threat on 13:45 - Nov 16 with 1524 views | redrickstuhaart |
| So, here comes the "utter deregulation or exclusion" threat on 13:43 - Nov 16 by blueasfook |
I saw some video of him pumping iron the other day. For an old boy he is pretty ripped! He obviously takes care of himself. RFK is an interesting character. I read he was a heroin addict for 14 years. |
Interesting is generous. He is a dangerous loon, prepared to propogate disinformation to deadly effect. | | | |
| So, here comes the "utter deregulation or exclusion" threat on 13:55 - Nov 16 with 1473 views | Churchman |
| So, here comes the "utter deregulation or exclusion" threat on 13:16 - Nov 16 by redrickstuhaart |
I think thats nonsense. If it is permitted, it will find its way into all those processed foods people routinely eat, and will be cheap.
Curiously, it might even be the sort of thing that RFK opposes. He does seem to have some reasonable inclinations in terms of processed food culture. |
Attached is an article that outlines what chlorinated chicken actually is and what the alternative is. It’s from 2017 but is still relevant.
https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/analysis-and-features/chlorinated-chicken-explained-
As for British farming produce, let’s not forget we gave the world BSE and the EU is not immune from disgusting farming practices either. With regard to the EU ‘farm to fork’ ideal, I don’t think that happens in practice and what and how animal products are produced, treated and distributed vary enormously.
It is up to us to understand and regulate what is acceptable whether it’s swimming pool treated chicken or cheap Belgian horse meat passed off in processed products. It is one of the aspects I was hostile with the previous government over in their mantra that a deregulated free market will always deliver better, cheaper and more efficiently. It will if you don’t mind what you eat. | | | |
| So, here comes the "utter deregulation or exclusion" threat on 14:09 - Nov 16 with 1388 views | Lord_Lucan |
| So, here comes the "utter deregulation or exclusion" threat on 12:26 - Nov 16 by GlasgowBlue |
There are health risks associated with eating meat of any kind. The healthiest and ethical choice is to go vegetarian or vegan. |
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| So, here comes the "utter deregulation or exclusion" threat on 14:18 - Nov 16 with 1362 views | Ryorry |
| So, here comes the "utter deregulation or exclusion" threat on 13:55 - Nov 16 by Churchman |
Attached is an article that outlines what chlorinated chicken actually is and what the alternative is. It’s from 2017 but is still relevant.
https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/analysis-and-features/chlorinated-chicken-explained-
As for British farming produce, let’s not forget we gave the world BSE and the EU is not immune from disgusting farming practices either. With regard to the EU ‘farm to fork’ ideal, I don’t think that happens in practice and what and how animal products are produced, treated and distributed vary enormously.
It is up to us to understand and regulate what is acceptable whether it’s swimming pool treated chicken or cheap Belgian horse meat passed off in processed products. It is one of the aspects I was hostile with the previous government over in their mantra that a deregulated free market will always deliver better, cheaper and more efficiently. It will if you don’t mind what you eat. |
Traditional mixed farming, if done ethically (pref organically) in any country isn't a bad thing though - nothing beats it for creating & maintaining a healthy soil structure via good old animal muck and straw.
Pollution, soil erosion & degradation from monocrop culture are huge problems, as are the massive decreases in biodiversity arising. [Post edited 16 Nov 2024 14:21]
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| So, here comes the "utter deregulation or exclusion" threat on 16:19 - Nov 16 with 1186 views | Guthrum |
| So, here comes the "utter deregulation or exclusion" threat on 12:26 - Nov 16 by GlasgowBlue |
There are health risks associated with eating meat of any kind. The healthiest and ethical choice is to go vegetarian or vegan. |
The chicken was only an example. It's about business practices and dismantling protections (consumer and employee) all round. |  |
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| So, here comes the "utter deregulation or exclusion" threat on 16:24 - Nov 16 with 1173 views | NthQldITFC |
Fair enough. I'll have the EU's 'socialism' then thanks Donald, or any other form of actual socialism, or pretty much anything other than you, you obnoxious wanchor. |  |
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| So, here comes the "utter deregulation or exclusion" threat on 16:53 - Nov 16 with 1090 views | OldFart71 |
| So, here comes the "utter deregulation or exclusion" threat on 12:54 - Nov 16 by Churchman |
I’ve eaten chicken 100s of times in America and I’m ok - apart from the extra arm and the brain rotting away.
Seriously, the U.K. needs to form its own economic model and ignore any noise from America. We do a lot of trade with the US without a trade ‘deal’. It’s our biggest trading partner and that’s fine. Any arrangement they may want will be to their advantage, whether it’s pharmaceuticals or anything else so care required.
I take with a pinch of salt anything US politicians of any persuasion might wish for. Their interests may not necessarily be ours. There’s a little irony in this bloke Moore talking about economic freedom when the main Trump economic strategy is tariffs and America first. Freedom for whom? |
Agree entirely. I worked for I.C.I. Autocolor a far superior product to what they had in the US. I.C.I. tried to set up paint shops in the US and they made it as difficult as possible. Then in 1999 when I.C.I. due to what I can only assume was bad management were on the decline. The pharmaceutical division split and became Zeneca, now AstraZeneca in around 1997. I.C.I. Autocolor was sold to PPG Industries in 99, an American Company. The US are protectionist , something we should be more of. Too many of our assets as a Country are and have been allowed to be sold. One of the main reasons we pay so much for water and energy, rail travel etc. Under Trump he won't give a hoot about little Ole Britain. This special relationship is based on " We go to war, you follow" The Americans are renowned for going into Countries, causing havoc and then pulling out. If anyone can tell me what good going into Iraq and Afghanistan has done I'd like to hear it. I cannot see anyone in this or the previous Government with the nous to come out of a deal with America where we gain. | | | |
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