| Roy Keane 21:13 - Nov 27 with 9374 views | redrickstuhaart |
Anyone defending him or denying he is a coward and a bully, just listen to Luke Hyam's comments this evening on life's a pitch.
In any other walk of life he would be fired and sued. |  | | |  |
| Roy Keane on 06:52 - Nov 28 with 1490 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Roy Keane on 23:42 - Nov 27 by BlueBadger |
Don't get me wrong, Famous Roy was comfortably our worst ever manager but.........are you alright mate? |
Have you wiped Paul Hurst and Paul Lambert from your mind?
You could also argue that Mick McCarthy inherited a worse squad in a worse position from Paul Jewell than Jewell did from Roy Keane.
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| Roy Keane on 08:26 - Nov 28 with 1372 views | HighgateBlue |
| Roy Keane on 06:52 - Nov 28 by GlasgowBlue |
Have you wiped Paul Hurst and Paul Lambert from your mind?
You could also argue that Mick McCarthy inherited a worse squad in a worse position from Paul Jewell than Jewell did from Roy Keane.
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You could also argue that Paul Cook had a worse win percentage than Paul Lambert and spent longer in an easier league.
You could argue it because it's demonstrably true.
But the grumpy guy gets a worse review than the cheeky chappy for no good reason.
Neither of them were good enough, but it still baffles me.
Oh and Hurst was worst. I can't see how there can be any debate. |  | | |
| Roy Keane on 08:44 - Nov 28 with 1329 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Roy Keane on 08:26 - Nov 28 by HighgateBlue |
You could also argue that Paul Cook had a worse win percentage than Paul Lambert and spent longer in an easier league.
You could argue it because it's demonstrably true.
But the grumpy guy gets a worse review than the cheeky chappy for no good reason.
Neither of them were good enough, but it still baffles me.
Oh and Hurst was worst. I can't see how there can be any debate. |
Cook comes higher up the list due to the players he recruited, some of whom are performing in our Premier League team.
Absolutely hopeless as our manager though. | |
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| Roy Keane on 09:04 - Nov 28 with 1312 views | Churchman |
| Roy Keane on 06:52 - Nov 28 by GlasgowBlue |
Have you wiped Paul Hurst and Paul Lambert from your mind?
You could also argue that Mick McCarthy inherited a worse squad in a worse position from Paul Jewell than Jewell did from Roy Keane.
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Worst ever manager?
Hurst. Ok, Evans was stripping the club out. But Hurst made promises he could never fulfil (see Alan Lee’s comments) and was utterly incompetent in every way. Dull, insignificant, it was obvious we’d be relegated by the end of August.
Keane: a close second. Dreadful manager, wasteful in that he bought a lot of dross (e.g. Lee Martin). Clueless boilerman. Press conferences were amusing for a while and that’s about the most positive thing I can say of him. Rubbish pundit too..
Lambert - third. Utter windbag. Unpleasant too if Darren Bent’s (and others) comments are anything to go by. No idea whatsoever, but heck that was one hell of a five year contract he wheedled out of Evans. Legend in his own head.
Others? Jewell: likeable but had long lost the managerial plot. Ferguson: Robson might have rated him as a coach but he was no more a manager the he was the Pope. Milburn? Before my time but the written word says management wasn’t for him and he was bright and honourable enough to recognise that. Duncan? Nice man. Poor, but not the worst. Cook? Disappointing. Good track record but clearly suited to a smaller club. Seems likeable, but a really bad fit here.
In my view and if I was running it, all former managers are part of ITFC history and should be made welcome by the club if they wish to attend it, good and bad. Nobody tried to do a rubbish job. Shame that the above did, but it’s all water under the bridge. |  | | |
| Roy Keane on 09:22 - Nov 28 with 1290 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Roy Keane on 09:04 - Nov 28 by Churchman |
Worst ever manager?
Hurst. Ok, Evans was stripping the club out. But Hurst made promises he could never fulfil (see Alan Lee’s comments) and was utterly incompetent in every way. Dull, insignificant, it was obvious we’d be relegated by the end of August.
Keane: a close second. Dreadful manager, wasteful in that he bought a lot of dross (e.g. Lee Martin). Clueless boilerman. Press conferences were amusing for a while and that’s about the most positive thing I can say of him. Rubbish pundit too..
Lambert - third. Utter windbag. Unpleasant too if Darren Bent’s (and others) comments are anything to go by. No idea whatsoever, but heck that was one hell of a five year contract he wheedled out of Evans. Legend in his own head.
Others? Jewell: likeable but had long lost the managerial plot. Ferguson: Robson might have rated him as a coach but he was no more a manager the he was the Pope. Milburn? Before my time but the written word says management wasn’t for him and he was bright and honourable enough to recognise that. Duncan? Nice man. Poor, but not the worst. Cook? Disappointing. Good track record but clearly suited to a smaller club. Seems likeable, but a really bad fit here.
In my view and if I was running it, all former managers are part of ITFC history and should be made welcome by the club if they wish to attend it, good and bad. Nobody tried to do a rubbish job. Shame that the above did, but it’s all water under the bridge. |
Jewell definitely worse than Keane. Jewell was sacked when we were bottom and six point from safety with an aging squad of loanees, has beens and never wheres. Ipswich was a laughing stock and our players were in the news for the wrong reasons. Chopra and the gambling, Bullard in the piss, Taylor fighting in the street. And those heavy defeats against Posh and Blackpool FFS.
Keane was sacked when outside the bottom three and in the semi final of the League Cup.
Both were poor managers for us but Jewell was an absolute joke. | |
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| Roy Keane on 09:55 - Nov 28 with 1248 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Roy Keane on 09:22 - Nov 28 by GlasgowBlue |
Jewell definitely worse than Keane. Jewell was sacked when we were bottom and six point from safety with an aging squad of loanees, has beens and never wheres. Ipswich was a laughing stock and our players were in the news for the wrong reasons. Chopra and the gambling, Bullard in the piss, Taylor fighting in the street. And those heavy defeats against Posh and Blackpool FFS.
Keane was sacked when outside the bottom three and in the semi final of the League Cup.
Both were poor managers for us but Jewell was an absolute joke. |
You're forgetting what they inherited. And what they spent. These are both huge factors that for some reason seem to get left out by people defending The Famous One.
Jewell inherited Keane's 'squad'. And Keane wasted way more money than any of our managers (and started Evans tightening the purse strings).
Keane, meanwhile, inherited a squad just outside the play offs, and claimed making the play offs was easy (before taking us in the opposite direction). And he flogged off Jordan Rhodes.
A league cup semi? Pah, any halfwit could fluke their way to one of those. Incredible that people still trot that out as a defence of Keane. |  |
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| Roy Keane on 10:03 - Nov 28 with 1234 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Roy Keane on 09:55 - Nov 28 by The_Flashing_Smile |
You're forgetting what they inherited. And what they spent. These are both huge factors that for some reason seem to get left out by people defending The Famous One.
Jewell inherited Keane's 'squad'. And Keane wasted way more money than any of our managers (and started Evans tightening the purse strings).
Keane, meanwhile, inherited a squad just outside the play offs, and claimed making the play offs was easy (before taking us in the opposite direction). And he flogged off Jordan Rhodes.
A league cup semi? Pah, any halfwit could fluke their way to one of those. Incredible that people still trot that out as a defence of Keane. |
Remind us what round of the league cup we're still in? lol |  |
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| Roy Keane on 10:30 - Nov 28 with 1200 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Roy Keane on 10:03 - Nov 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Remind us what round of the league cup we're still in? lol |
What's that got to do with the price of fish?
My point is plenty of cr@p teams have fluked their way to the later rounds of the League Cup, which few big teams give a stuff about. It's not a good barometer of anything. The league is the true test - the league table never lies. And we were cr@p in that under Keane. | |
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| Roy Keane on 10:47 - Nov 28 with 1175 views | Bluefields |
I really like him tbh. Loved him as a player and equally love him as a pundit. | | | |
| Roy Keane on 10:57 - Nov 28 with 1142 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Roy Keane on 21:30 - Nov 27 by GlasgowBlue |
This is the third Keane thread since Sunday. He's obviously living rent free in some people's heads.
He was sacked 13 years ago. Let it go mate. |
He threatened violence against one of our supporters at the weekend, dunno if you missed it? | |
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| Roy Keane on 11:01 - Nov 28 with 1134 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Roy Keane on 10:57 - Nov 28 by The_Flashing_Smile |
He threatened violence against one of our supporters at the weekend, dunno if you missed it? |
Didn't one of our supporters throw abuse at him? Whilst he was just at the ground doing his job as a pundit. Whilst BTW being quite complimentary about our club. [Post edited 28 Nov 2024 11:02]
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| Roy Keane on 11:03 - Nov 28 with 1127 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Roy Keane on 11:01 - Nov 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Didn't one of our supporters throw abuse at him? Whilst he was just at the ground doing his job as a pundit. Whilst BTW being quite complimentary about our club. [Post edited 28 Nov 2024 11:02]
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We've discussed this in another thread where you claimed abuse and I told you what was actually said (fairly jokey). Have you got the memory of a goldfish? | |
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| Roy Keane on 11:07 - Nov 28 with 1109 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Roy Keane on 10:57 - Nov 28 by The_Flashing_Smile |
He threatened violence against one of our supporters at the weekend, dunno if you missed it? |
"threatened violence"? Deary me. | |
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| Roy Keane on 11:09 - Nov 28 with 1102 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Roy Keane on 11:03 - Nov 28 by The_Flashing_Smile |
We've discussed this in another thread where you claimed abuse and I told you what was actually said (fairly jokey). Have you got the memory of a goldfish? |
Yes I do,
What was said? | |
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| Roy Keane on 11:22 - Nov 28 with 1068 views | PhilTWTD |
| Roy Keane on 22:59 - Nov 27 by Vic |
I haven't heard RO's comments about Ferguson, but have heard several players really struggled with him, Russel Osman being one. Certainly the team disintegrated under him. |
Plenty of players were given a very hard time by Bobby Ferguson to an extent which would be unacceptable now and should have been then. |  | | |
| Roy Keane on 11:28 - Nov 28 with 1025 views | leitrimblue |
While Roy was in charge of Town I had a dream/nightmare that he was my boss. He was an absolute dick to work for.
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| Roy Keane on 11:34 - Nov 28 with 1011 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Roy Keane on 11:07 - Nov 28 by GlasgowBlue |
"threatened violence"? Deary me. |
Yes. Everyone knows what "meet me outside in the car park" means Glassers. [Post edited 28 Nov 2024 12:44]
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| Roy Keane on 11:38 - Nov 28 with 997 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Roy Keane on 11:09 - Nov 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Yes I do,
What was said? |
Given how you were defending Famous Roy and calling it abuse in the other thread I'm amazed you've forgotten. It was less than 3 days ago.
"Hey Roy, are you going to explain to Jamie how sh!t you were as Town manager?!" | |
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| Roy Keane on 11:39 - Nov 28 with 996 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Roy Keane on 11:34 - Nov 28 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Yes. Everyone knows what "meet me outside in the car park" means Glassers. [Post edited 28 Nov 2024 12:44]
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Well technically he could have been offering him a boxing session, we've had that chat before and was told it's not violent, perhaps he just wanted to help the fan by having a little sparring session. | |
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| Roy Keane on 11:47 - Nov 28 with 980 views | Churchman |
| Roy Keane on 10:47 - Nov 28 by Bluefields |
I really like him tbh. Loved him as a player and equally love him as a pundit. |
He’s only on tv because the hope is there that he will blow up. Dreadful.
He was an appalling manager too and Flash is right to point out the opportunity he hosed up the wall producing a joke of a team. It wasn’t good and it’s easy to forget that unlike Jewell he inherited a settled team that wasn’t a million miles away.
Yes, he was a top player who won just about anything worth winning in the game. But he was still a coward who would not have survived five minutes in the 70s and as a manager and a pundit, forget it. You might love him, I switch of the sound or tv when he’s pontificating. It’s all opinions. | | | |
| Roy Keane on 11:52 - Nov 28 with 960 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Roy Keane on 11:39 - Nov 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Well technically he could have been offering him a boxing session, we've had that chat before and was told it's not violent, perhaps he just wanted to help the fan by having a little sparring session. |
Um, ok... | |
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| Roy Keane on 11:54 - Nov 28 with 957 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Roy Keane on 11:38 - Nov 28 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Given how you were defending Famous Roy and calling it abuse in the other thread I'm amazed you've forgotten. It was less than 3 days ago.
"Hey Roy, are you going to explain to Jamie how sh!t you were as Town manager?!" |
Flash you seem to have missed a fair few things out...
I'm with Roy on this one
"Finbow posted on Facebook: "New claim to fame just been offered out into the carpark by Roy Keane after a few choice words even Jamie Redknapp had to come over to get him away just ya average Sunday evening out." Finbow also offered some insight into what he said to Keane: "Yep did remind him he set us back five years and ruined our football club - I also mentioned he wasn't fit to step foot anywhere near our ground. Oh and I mentioned about him walking out on a World Cup and breaking [Alf-Inge] Halaand's leg and putting it in his autobiography I hate the bloke and that's been boiling up since he got sacked all those years ago."" | |
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| Roy Keane on 12:29 - Nov 28 with 899 views | Bluespeed225 |
| Roy Keane on 22:09 - Nov 27 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Indeed. Hyam's comments show he wasn't a good man to work under but he still said he had some affiliation for him. EDIT Russell Osman (not Roger Osborne, thanks to the poster pointing that out to me further down) also made a notable point that most managers were like that and Keane was just a hangover from the past. [Post edited 28 Nov 2024 21:47]
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It was Osman who has regularly made it clear Furguson was ‘old school’, to the point of kicking him in the throat after a tackle landed BF in a puddle during a 5 a side. Yallop seemed to be a favourite target of him. | | | |
| Roy Keane on 12:38 - Nov 28 with 880 views | gtsb1966 |
| Roy Keane on 11:34 - Nov 28 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Yes. Everyone knows what "meet me outside in the car park" means Glassers. [Post edited 28 Nov 2024 12:44]
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A girl asked me to do that in the Windmill at Copford many moons ago so I did. Are you saying RK wanted to s**g him.then? |  | | |
| Roy Keane on 12:43 - Nov 28 with 1129 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Roy Keane on 11:54 - Nov 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Flash you seem to have missed a fair few things out...
I'm with Roy on this one
"Finbow posted on Facebook: "New claim to fame just been offered out into the carpark by Roy Keane after a few choice words even Jamie Redknapp had to come over to get him away just ya average Sunday evening out." Finbow also offered some insight into what he said to Keane: "Yep did remind him he set us back five years and ruined our football club - I also mentioned he wasn't fit to step foot anywhere near our ground. Oh and I mentioned about him walking out on a World Cup and breaking [Alf-Inge] Halaand's leg and putting it in his autobiography I hate the bloke and that's been boiling up since he got sacked all those years ago."" |
First I've seen any of this. We're 5 days since the incident, have you desperately been searching for something to counter what I posted? I'm merely going on what Dave Diamond said, who was actually there. Once again you're commenting on stuff when you weren't there.
I've no idea who Finbow is or if there's any truth in all this - it does seem rather a lot to have apparently said in such a short space of time. But because you love Roy you've gone with this stuff some random's posted on facebook.
Even so, Keane could've just laughed it off, maybe made a "blah blah blah" action with his hand. I suspect you wouldn't normally be an advocate of violence, but because it's Roy Keane who was a great footballer and a bit famous... | |
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