| Muric 11:55 - Dec 11 with 3416 views | HampBlue |
We have the second highest expected goals against in the league.
Muric is...
- 5th in the league for goals prevented
- 4th for saves per game (3.9) Total of 55
- The best goalkeeper in the league for 'high claims'
People are quick to forget a lot of his good moments and focus just on (in the grand scheme of things...) the small number of mistakes.
e.g. Brentford game he made some brilliant saves & 1-on1's in the second half to keep us in the game which nobody would of expected him to make.
I think in terms of conceding goals overall we're better off with him in the net than Walton, even if Walton wouldn't make the mistakes, he wouldn't of made as many saves and claims.
He's a confidence player, like Hladky, We need to get behind him! |  | | |  |
| Muric on 11:57 - Dec 11 with 2648 views | NedPlimpton |
I'm pro sticking with Muric but the first two stats you've given would also likely be very high for any GK we play due to the number of shots we concede per game, no? |  | | |
| Muric on 11:58 - Dec 11 with 2639 views | _clive_baker_ |
He's certainly made some big contributions. I'd be really surprised if he's dropped but he goes from the sublime to the ridiculous and its really damaging. Needs to cut those silly mistakes out which by and large he had done a good job of until Sunday, but that opener was proper cack goalkeeping to find himself in no mans land like that. Certainly true that he's done some things very, very well though and is a beast on high balls. |  | | |
| Muric on 12:02 - Dec 11 with 2577 views | rickw |
He reminds me a bit of a young David James - brilliant for 89 minutes of the match but then will usually have 1 rush of blood and do something inexplicable |  |
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| Muric on 12:03 - Dec 11 with 2561 views | homer_123 |
Says more about our ability to stop shots coming in!  |  |
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| Muric on 12:04 - Dec 11 with 2549 views | usm |
| Muric on 11:58 - Dec 11 by _clive_baker_ |
He's certainly made some big contributions. I'd be really surprised if he's dropped but he goes from the sublime to the ridiculous and its really damaging. Needs to cut those silly mistakes out which by and large he had done a good job of until Sunday, but that opener was proper cack goalkeeping to find himself in no mans land like that. Certainly true that he's done some things very, very well though and is a beast on high balls. |
Agree that he needs to cut tout the silly mistakes, but if he does he'll be a top top goalkeeper because all of his other stats are right up there.
Thats why we got him for £8 Million (or whatever) rather than £20 odd Million.
His mistakes are annoying and frustrating but his saves keep us in most games. |  |
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| Muric on 12:08 - Dec 11 with 2522 views | HampBlue |
| Muric on 11:57 - Dec 11 by NedPlimpton |
I'm pro sticking with Muric but the first two stats you've given would also likely be very high for any GK we play due to the number of shots we concede per game, no? |
Ofcourse - I wasn't trying to claim otherwise, just context setting | | | |
| Muric on 12:12 - Dec 11 with 2487 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Muric on 12:04 - Dec 11 by usm |
Agree that he needs to cut tout the silly mistakes, but if he does he'll be a top top goalkeeper because all of his other stats are right up there.
Thats why we got him for £8 Million (or whatever) rather than £20 odd Million.
His mistakes are annoying and frustrating but his saves keep us in most games. |
Yeah don't disagree with that. If he was perfect he wouldn't be playing for us would he. I wonder if he's capable of cutting those out, Man City & Burnley haven't seemed to iron them out so we'll see. Its the bit between his ears that lets him down and the decision making, technically he's got everything else. | | | |
| Muric on 12:12 - Dec 11 with 2485 views | ReusersTown |
| Muric on 11:57 - Dec 11 by NedPlimpton |
I'm pro sticking with Muric but the first two stats you've given would also likely be very high for any GK we play due to the number of shots we concede per game, no? |
I'd say no, as the context of a lot of these shots is that they seem to be 1 on 1's. Which we seem to concede at least one or two of a match and he is brilliant at. | | | |
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| Muric on 12:16 - Dec 11 with 2447 views | Illinoisblue |
“He’s really good except for the stupid mistakes that cost us goals and points.” The life of a keeper i suppose but I remain utterly unconvinced by Muric. There’s something not right with him. |  |
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| Muric on 12:20 - Dec 11 with 2410 views | homer_123 |
| Muric on 12:16 - Dec 11 by Illinoisblue |
“He’s really good except for the stupid mistakes that cost us goals and points.” The life of a keeper i suppose but I remain utterly unconvinced by Muric. There’s something not right with him. |
As I said the other day.
He does some stuff extremely well. He makes saves he has almost no right to. He gets so much right.
But, when he makes a mistake it is a massive one and incredibly costly.
Burnley warned us and they were 100% spot on. | |
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| Muric on 12:23 - Dec 11 with 2384 views | Swailsey |
| Muric on 12:16 - Dec 11 by Illinoisblue |
“He’s really good except for the stupid mistakes that cost us goals and points.” The life of a keeper i suppose but I remain utterly unconvinced by Muric. There’s something not right with him. |
He doesn’t fill me with confidence and the defence don’t seem particularly assured. He doesn’t command the box enough for me; punches a lot (although the same can be said about Vas who I miss greatly), and he’s very weak on crosses.
He has made some good saves (and a couple of excellent ones), but he’s a supposed top flight keeper so that should be a minimum. He isn’t the one for me currently, and has cost us more points than he’s saved. |  |
| Who said: "Colin Healy made Cesc Fabregas look like Colin Healy"? | We miss you TLA |
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| Muric on 12:24 - Dec 11 with 2372 views | homer_123 |
| Muric on 12:12 - Dec 11 by _clive_baker_ |
Yeah don't disagree with that. If he was perfect he wouldn't be playing for us would he. I wonder if he's capable of cutting those out, Man City & Burnley haven't seemed to iron them out so we'll see. Its the bit between his ears that lets him down and the decision making, technically he's got everything else. |
The short answer, I think, is no.
The nicest way to put it is he's a tad eccentric....I don't see that changing. | |
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| Muric on 12:27 - Dec 11 with 2333 views | Fixed_It |
| Muric on 12:23 - Dec 11 by Swailsey |
He doesn’t fill me with confidence and the defence don’t seem particularly assured. He doesn’t command the box enough for me; punches a lot (although the same can be said about Vas who I miss greatly), and he’s very weak on crosses.
He has made some good saves (and a couple of excellent ones), but he’s a supposed top flight keeper so that should be a minimum. He isn’t the one for me currently, and has cost us more points than he’s saved. |
'Weak on crosses'.
'Punches a lot'.
'Doesn't command his box enough'.
I can't agree with any of that. Sorry. |  |
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| Muric on 12:27 - Dec 11 with 2323 views | quad |
Could we bring in a hypnotist to help him cut out the mistakes? Surely it must be psychological or just a confidence issue. He's clearly got ability. | | | |
| Muric on 12:29 - Dec 11 with 2302 views | homer_123 |
| Muric on 12:27 - Dec 11 by Fixed_It |
'Weak on crosses'.
'Punches a lot'.
'Doesn't command his box enough'.
I can't agree with any of that. Sorry. |
Indeed, it's the 'rush of blood' that seems his nemesis. | |
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| Muric on 12:34 - Dec 11 with 2270 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Muric on 12:23 - Dec 11 by Swailsey |
He doesn’t fill me with confidence and the defence don’t seem particularly assured. He doesn’t command the box enough for me; punches a lot (although the same can be said about Vas who I miss greatly), and he’s very weak on crosses.
He has made some good saves (and a couple of excellent ones), but he’s a supposed top flight keeper so that should be a minimum. He isn’t the one for me currently, and has cost us more points than he’s saved. |
Statistically the best keeper in Europe for dealing with crosses. | | | |
| Muric on 12:35 - Dec 11 with 2263 views | TractorCam |
Nothing i've seen of Walton in a Town shirt would suggest he wouldn't produce those numbers either. People seem quick to forget how good he was because he didn't play last season. |  |
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| Muric on 12:38 - Dec 11 with 2250 views | Kieran_Knows |
Sublime or the ridiculous with nothing in between.
People just need to price that in to their thinking with him. Stick with him I say. |  |
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| Muric on 12:49 - Dec 11 with 2124 views | Swailsey |
| Muric on 12:34 - Dec 11 by tractorboy1978 |
Statistically the best keeper in Europe for dealing with crosses. |
Would never have guessed that! Can think of 3 crosses he should have stopped that led to goals.
Agree to disagree! | |
| Who said: "Colin Healy made Cesc Fabregas look like Colin Healy"? | We miss you TLA |
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| Muric on 12:49 - Dec 11 with 2124 views | Kievthegreat |
One stat I saw at the weekend was that he has the most errors leading to a goal in the league (4). He cost us a point at Brentford, at least a point on Sunday, his error against Man City was irrelevant and not sure which will be the 4th goal off the top of my head. Either way, it's 2-4 points those mistakes have cost us. |  | | |
| Muric on 12:55 - Dec 11 with 2104 views | Oldsmoker |
We all need to back Muric as our Goalie not 'get behind him'.
When members of our defence are behind him it means he's gone charging out of the area on a fools errand to get the ball.
That has to got to stop. |  |
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| Muric on 13:12 - Dec 11 with 1982 views | HighgateBlue |
| Muric on 12:35 - Dec 11 by TractorCam |
Nothing i've seen of Walton in a Town shirt would suggest he wouldn't produce those numbers either. People seem quick to forget how good he was because he didn't play last season. |
He was awful against Fulham in the League Cup, I'm afraid. I did like him against lowlier opponents, but he was kept out of the side by Hladky, whom KMac clearly didn't rate sufficiently to back as our number 1.
I'm very happy having Walton as a backup, but I don't think we have any evidence that would reasonably allow us to speculate that his numbers (in the categories mentioned by the OP) would be way ahead of most Premier League goalies when playing against Premier League clubs. |  | | |
| Muric on 13:17 - Dec 11 with 1945 views | Asa |
My view is that Muric has probably cost us 4-5 goals this season and the points that come with that.
He's probably stopped 8-9 goals that most keepers in our price range or who'd join us would have saved and the points that come with that.
It is what it is. | | | |
| Muric on 13:19 - Dec 11 with 1918 views | Exiled2Surrey |
| Muric on 13:12 - Dec 11 by HighgateBlue |
He was awful against Fulham in the League Cup, I'm afraid. I did like him against lowlier opponents, but he was kept out of the side by Hladky, whom KMac clearly didn't rate sufficiently to back as our number 1.
I'm very happy having Walton as a backup, but I don't think we have any evidence that would reasonably allow us to speculate that his numbers (in the categories mentioned by the OP) would be way ahead of most Premier League goalies when playing against Premier League clubs. |
What do people think about Kieran Slicker? He never gets mentioned as an alternative. I suspect that Christian Walton might take a dim view of him being promoted ahead of him, but does he have the potential to be the number one? Scotland seem to rate him
BTW, I am Muric in for the moment [Post edited 11 Dec 2024 13:19]
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| Muric on 13:20 - Dec 11 with 1908 views | HampBlue |
| Muric on 12:49 - Dec 11 by Kievthegreat |
One stat I saw at the weekend was that he has the most errors leading to a goal in the league (4). He cost us a point at Brentford, at least a point on Sunday, his error against Man City was irrelevant and not sure which will be the 4th goal off the top of my head. Either way, it's 2-4 points those mistakes have cost us. |
You could equally argue he’s saved us points too though. E.g Commanding his area v.s Spurs | | | |
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