| Cyril Lea 13:05 - Dec 17 with 2765 views | Sharkey |
When Cyril Lea left Town, was he on good terms with Bobby Robson or had they had some sort of falling out?
(Is my memory playing tricks, or did the crowd used to sing Tra-la la-la Cyril Lea'? ) |  | | |  |
| Cyril Lea on 13:15 - Dec 17 with 2675 views | homer_123 |
They had a fall out, if memory serves. |  |
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| Cyril Lea on 13:26 - Dec 17 with 2636 views | OsmansCleanSheet |
Robson wanted Bobby Ferguson as his right hand man. He said he wanted a fellow geordie, someone he could trust. I always found that a bit strange as it implied he couldn’t trust Cyril Lea. |  | | |
| Cyril Lea on 13:40 - Dec 17 with 2580 views | Sharkey |
| Cyril Lea on 13:26 - Dec 17 by OsmansCleanSheet |
Robson wanted Bobby Ferguson as his right hand man. He said he wanted a fellow geordie, someone he could trust. I always found that a bit strange as it implied he couldn’t trust Cyril Lea. |
Lea is in the Town hall of fame, but I don't know if the club marked his 90th birthday in August, (perhaps in the matchday program?). | | | |
| Cyril Lea on 14:07 - Dec 17 with 2488 views | Radlett_blue |
| Cyril Lea on 13:26 - Dec 17 by OsmansCleanSheet |
Robson wanted Bobby Ferguson as his right hand man. He said he wanted a fellow geordie, someone he could trust. I always found that a bit strange as it implied he couldn’t trust Cyril Lea. |
Yes, SBR got rid of Cyril Lea eventually, but later admitted he'd made a mistake & Lea was a good man. He also respected the fiery Welshman for backing him up in the dressing room punch-up with Bill Baxter & Tommy Carroll. |  |
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| Cyril Lea on 14:25 - Dec 17 with 2424 views | Churchman |
| Cyril Lea on 13:26 - Dec 17 by OsmansCleanSheet |
Robson wanted Bobby Ferguson as his right hand man. He said he wanted a fellow geordie, someone he could trust. I always found that a bit strange as it implied he couldn’t trust Cyril Lea. |
Thanks for that. I wondered why Lea was replaced. This sort of thing never made the news at the time. In fact very little of anything beyond match reports and the Green Un (bigger match reports and local results) did. [Post edited 17 Dec 2024 15:13]
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| Cyril Lea on 14:45 - Dec 17 with 2370 views | 66notout |
| Cyril Lea on 14:07 - Dec 17 by Radlett_blue |
Yes, SBR got rid of Cyril Lea eventually, but later admitted he'd made a mistake & Lea was a good man. He also respected the fiery Welshman for backing him up in the dressing room punch-up with Bill Baxter & Tommy Carroll. |
Not true. Cyril was also the assistant manager of Wales and when Mike Smith, the Wales manager, was appointed manager of Stoke City, he asked Cyril to join him as his assistant, leaving a vacancy at Portman Road. Bobby Ferguson, who had been trying to get Cyril’s job, stepped up from his role as reserve coach to succeed him. |  | | |
| Cyril Lea on 14:55 - Dec 17 with 2315 views | farkenhell |
| Cyril Lea on 14:25 - Dec 17 by Churchman |
Thanks for that. I wondered why Lea was replaced. This sort of thing never made the news at the time. In fact very little of anything beyond match reports and the Green Un (bigger match reports and local results) did. [Post edited 17 Dec 2024 15:13]
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The explanation that was given at the time was along the lines that Robson wanted to change the style of play to accommodate the acquisition of Muhren and Thijssen, whereas Cyril Lea very much favoured the more direct approach (ie long ball forward to the centre forwards, knock-down to the onrushing midfielders) on which the club had achieved much success in the 70s. They couldn't agree, so Lea left to go to Stoke, Ferguson was promoted to 1st team coach, and the rest, as they say, is history. I remember Robson was very appreciative and complimentary in the match-day program shortly after Lea left (which was in the close-season, if I recall correctly). | | | |
| Cyril Lea on 14:58 - Dec 17 with 2293 views | Sharkey |
| Cyril Lea on 14:45 - Dec 17 by 66notout |
Not true. Cyril was also the assistant manager of Wales and when Mike Smith, the Wales manager, was appointed manager of Stoke City, he asked Cyril to join him as his assistant, leaving a vacancy at Portman Road. Bobby Ferguson, who had been trying to get Cyril’s job, stepped up from his role as reserve coach to succeed him. |
They were at Hull City, not Stoke. | | | |
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| Cyril Lea on 15:04 - Dec 17 with 2251 views | farkenhell |
| Cyril Lea on 14:58 - Dec 17 by Sharkey |
They were at Hull City, not Stoke. |
i don't know about Mike Smith, but I'm pretty sure that he left Ipswich to go to Stoke (as the 1st team coach). | | | |
| Cyril Lea on 15:10 - Dec 17 with 2210 views | Radlett_blue |
| Cyril Lea on 14:58 - Dec 17 by Sharkey |
They were at Hull City, not Stoke. |
In December 1979, Mike Smith was appointed manager of Hull City but was sacked, along with coach Cyril Lea, in March 1982. Lea then became assistant to Allan Hunter when he was appointed player-manager of Colchester in the summer, becoming manager after Hunter resigned in February 1983 & he lasted to March 1986. | |
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| Cyril Lea on 15:11 - Dec 17 with 2207 views | Sharkey |
| Cyril Lea on 15:04 - Dec 17 by farkenhell |
i don't know about Mike Smith, but I'm pretty sure that he left Ipswich to go to Stoke (as the 1st team coach). |
Very possible, I guess, as Alan Durban was Stoke manager and also Welsh. Smith and Lea joined Hull around Christmas 1979. | | | |
| Cyril Lea on 15:27 - Dec 17 with 2157 views | OsmansCleanSheet |
| Cyril Lea on 14:45 - Dec 17 by 66notout |
Not true. Cyril was also the assistant manager of Wales and when Mike Smith, the Wales manager, was appointed manager of Stoke City, he asked Cyril to join him as his assistant, leaving a vacancy at Portman Road. Bobby Ferguson, who had been trying to get Cyril’s job, stepped up from his role as reserve coach to succeed him. |
I’m fairly sure it was Robson’s decision, as he said in his autobiography that it was something he hated doing but was necessary. | | | |
| Cyril Lea on 15:33 - Dec 17 with 2137 views | Sharkey |
| Cyril Lea on 15:27 - Dec 17 by OsmansCleanSheet |
I’m fairly sure it was Robson’s decision, as he said in his autobiography that it was something he hated doing but was necessary. |
You have to wonder if as much as anything tactical he wanted someone tougher, setting up a kind of good cop/bad cop partnership with Ferguson. | | | |
| Cyril Lea on 16:00 - Dec 17 with 2038 views | OsmansCleanSheet |
| Cyril Lea on 15:11 - Dec 17 by Sharkey |
Very possible, I guess, as Alan Durban was Stoke manager and also Welsh. Smith and Lea joined Hull around Christmas 1979. |
I remember Lea returning to Portman Road with Stoke, not long after leaving Ipswich, and getting a rousing reception. | | | |
| Cyril Lea on 16:02 - Dec 17 with 2028 views | OsmansCleanSheet |
| Cyril Lea on 15:33 - Dec 17 by Sharkey |
You have to wonder if as much as anything tactical he wanted someone tougher, setting up a kind of good cop/bad cop partnership with Ferguson. |
That’s very possible. Also Ferguson was an excellent tactician. | | | |
| Cyril Lea on 17:48 - Dec 17 with 1867 views | Radlett_blue |
| Cyril Lea on 16:00 - Dec 17 by OsmansCleanSheet |
I remember Lea returning to Portman Road with Stoke, not long after leaving Ipswich, and getting a rousing reception. |
Yes, Lea did work at Stoke under Alan Durban but must have left to join Mike Smith at Hull City. | |
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| Cyril Lea on 17:53 - Dec 17 with 1851 views | farkenhell |
| Cyril Lea on 16:00 - Dec 17 by OsmansCleanSheet |
I remember Lea returning to Portman Road with Stoke, not long after leaving Ipswich, and getting a rousing reception. |
Yes, I remember that too. | | | |
| Cyril Lea on 18:00 - Dec 17 with 1841 views | Sharkey |
| Cyril Lea on 17:48 - Dec 17 by Radlett_blue |
Yes, Lea did work at Stoke under Alan Durban but must have left to join Mike Smith at Hull City. |
That would have been quite a major step down, no? (Stoke L1, Hull near the bottom of L3?) I'm guessing he was 'on the staff' at Stoke, rather than first-team coach or assistant manager, - although someone points out he was given a welcome back to Portman Road when Stoke came to town. | | | |
| Cyril Lea on 18:04 - Dec 17 with 1824 views | farkenhell |
| Cyril Lea on 18:00 - Dec 17 by Sharkey |
That would have been quite a major step down, no? (Stoke L1, Hull near the bottom of L3?) I'm guessing he was 'on the staff' at Stoke, rather than first-team coach or assistant manager, - although someone points out he was given a welcome back to Portman Road when Stoke came to town. |
When he left Ipswich, he joined Stoke as their 1st team coach. | | | |
| Cyril Lea on 22:01 - Dec 17 with 1580 views | Crawfordsboot |
Around the end of his time at town Cyril Lea along with Charlie Woods used to coach us at the old Civic College. He invited a few of us for trials. Sadly I never had any pace :) |  | | |
| Cyril Lea on 23:15 - Dec 17 with 1494 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| Cyril Lea on 16:00 - Dec 17 by OsmansCleanSheet |
I remember Lea returning to Portman Road with Stoke, not long after leaving Ipswich, and getting a rousing reception. |
Sha - la - la - la Cyril Lea... |  |
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| Cyril Lea on 23:36 - Dec 17 with 1466 views | 66notout |
| Cyril Lea on 14:58 - Dec 17 by Sharkey |
They were at Hull City, not Stoke. |
Thank you. My bad. | | | |
| Cyril Lea on 23:56 - Dec 17 with 1452 views | Sharkey |
So I'm right, I DO correctly remember that chant from my earliest trips to Portman Road. | | | |
| Cyril Lea on 00:20 - Dec 18 with 1427 views | Lord_Lucan |
Give us a wave Cyril |  |
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| Cyril Lea on 06:34 - Dec 18 with 1336 views | Benters |
Nothing to do with him I know or our club,but where my Mo in Law moved to there’s an old boy called ‘Cyril’ he always says hello to me.
I always think of the song ‘Nice one Cyril nice one Son nice one Cyril let’s have another one’.
You never hear that name anymore sadly. |  |
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