| Transfer window predictions... 11:53 - Jan 2 with 8867 views | itfcjoe |
In
- Young GK (U21)
- RB/RCB in similar profile to Tuanzebe
- Right Winger to replace Ogbene
- Versatile attacker - another number 10, KM loves his options
- Striker
Out
- Slicker - Loan to free up a space
- H.Clarke - Loan as he's not quite ready for me and we should be well covered with above signings
- Al-Hamadi - Loan
- Ogbene to be deregistered if he is definitely out for the season
That would keep us within the squad limits.
Other question to answer is over Central Midfield, can we return Phillips with no financial penalty and replace with cheaper if all they are is a back up to Morsy and utilise that money elsewhere? |  |
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| Transfer window predictions... on 12:03 - Jan 2 with 5908 views | Help |
Agree, but think we might be looking at a different keeper as an alternative to aro and Walton and let slicker go out on loan.
Not sure changing midfield is going to help much. Need to think about players bedding in to the McKenna way.
It is in the hands of others, but fingers crossed for some good news. |  |
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| Transfer window predictions... on 12:06 - Jan 2 with 5865 views | JakeITFC |
I don't think the Phillips deal is that expensive in isolation - £100k a week for 6 months is £2.6m. We'll spend much more than that on any other player we bring in this month. |  | | |
| Transfer window predictions... on 12:12 - Jan 2 with 5748 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
Has there been any information on how much of KP's wages we are paying? As he was so out of favour and in need of PL minutes - otherwise he was going to just be a long term drain on City's finances - I suspect we are only paying a small %. It's ITFC that were taking on a lot of risk here, admittedly with a high potential upside, but I would guess we are paying no more of his wages than we would be paying to other CMs such as Morsy and Cajuste. If that is the case, then let's keep him, because his fitness is getting up there and he is now genuine competition for Morsy.
Maybe you know more about how much he is costing us?. Otherwise, agree Joe. |  |
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| Transfer window predictions... on 12:16 - Jan 2 with 5707 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Transfer window predictions... on 12:06 - Jan 2 by JakeITFC |
I don't think the Phillips deal is that expensive in isolation - £100k a week for 6 months is £2.6m. We'll spend much more than that on any other player we bring in this month. |
Agreed. And I think it is pretty dangerous to nail down Morsy as a definite starter and just look for a back up. We've obviously been managing Phillips over the first half of the season, hopefully he can step up now and get back to his best. I think Morsy has been 'good' but I'd say it says more about Phillips/Cajuste's availability that he's been such an ever present. Two players with serious pedigree. |  | | |
| Transfer window predictions... on 12:18 - Jan 2 with 5666 views | tractorboy1978 |
I think your 5 are probably spot on. I expect the real bulk of any FFP headroom we have left to go on that front 4. Defensively I think we are well set other than that hybrid RB/RCB position. | | | |
| Transfer window predictions... on 12:24 - Jan 2 with 5562 views | Clutch |
Sending KP back would be insanity. |  | | |
| Transfer window predictions... on 12:26 - Jan 2 with 5544 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
Usual bedwetters on here having a meltdown that we’ve not landed all 20 of our top targets by 27th Jan.
…oh wait not that kind of prediction. | | | |
| Transfer window predictions... on 12:28 - Jan 2 with 5518 views | Durovigutum |
Our GKs are fine, Slicker made the full Scotland squad so I'm not sure we will spend time recruiting here.
Ben Johnson is variable and Clarke looked a bit short but Tuanzebe is due back in late Jan and if we stick with the revised 3 at the back (which I think we will) then this feel unlikely - we are actually less well covered at left back.
Yes, Ogbene is a miss. While Wes looked good in more of a wing back role v Chelsea I think this recruitment is nailed on with Ogbene de-registering seeming sensible.
I don't see a 10 coming in. With 3 at the back we play (almost) the old fashioned inside left and inside right (or two 10s) and have Chaplin, Hutch, SS, Taylor, NB, WB who can play that or a standard 10.
Striker - a 9, yes. Where from I look forward to finding out but it will be a challenge as a striker coming on for Delap is a problem - how do you persuade someone with quality to come be a number 2 or 3 choice to a headline maker in a relegation threatened team?
Kalvin Philips is a quality player who has been a bit unfortunate. This will sound odd, but his qualities are better than Morsey but the sum of Morsey is currently producing a better output. I was certain that Philips and Cajuste would be our first choice midfield by now and I still think that will happen so I wouldn't dream of sending him back as we will get nowhere near as a replacement. More importantly a CDM will take time to get into KMcKs system and we don't have the time for that. |  | | |
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| Transfer window predictions... on 12:34 - Jan 2 with 5412 views | Tractor_Boy333 |
Why would you send Phillips back. He hasn’t been bad, plus I’ve always seen him as an alternative to Morsy not play alongside him. Canjuste looks like a quality player and is improving every game.
Phillips can still have a big part to play in our season. McKenna and the coaching team have shown how they can improve players and I’d be disappointed if he was sent back, providing there’s no injury issues we’re not aware off. | | | |
| Transfer window predictions... on 12:37 - Jan 2 with 5369 views | itfcjoe |
| Transfer window predictions... on 12:06 - Jan 2 by JakeITFC |
I don't think the Phillips deal is that expensive in isolation - £100k a week for 6 months is £2.6m. We'll spend much more than that on any other player we bring in this month. |
I'd just argue that £100k a week for a back up CM is a resource we'd like to allocate elsewhere if it was possible to do so - it may not be! | |
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| Transfer window predictions... on 12:37 - Jan 2 with 5359 views | le2blue |
My outlandish prediction is we sign Philogene and Armando Broja. Everton not wanting to commit to Broja signing under new ownership….stranger things have happened. |  | | |
| Transfer window predictions... on 12:41 - Jan 2 with 5247 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Transfer window predictions... on 12:26 - Jan 2 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Usual bedwetters on here having a meltdown that we’ve not landed all 20 of our top targets by 27th Jan.
…oh wait not that kind of prediction. |
we'd have played 4 league games by that date, you'd hope we bloody have. |  |
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| Transfer window predictions... on 12:46 - Jan 2 with 5173 views | JakeITFC |
| Transfer window predictions... on 12:37 - Jan 2 by itfcjoe |
I'd just argue that £100k a week for a back up CM is a resource we'd like to allocate elsewhere if it was possible to do so - it may not be! |
Yeah, understood - I just think he gets extra stick for being expensive in a way that other signings don't seem to. | | | |
| Transfer window predictions... on 12:58 - Jan 2 with 5049 views | itfcjoe |
| Transfer window predictions... on 12:46 - Jan 2 by JakeITFC |
Yeah, understood - I just think he gets extra stick for being expensive in a way that other signings don't seem to. |
I'd happily see him have a run in the side, but if it's not going to happen and he just carries on playing infrequently then it will be a big failure of a signing, because one of your 2 valuable loan spots and a big chunk of change will have garnered very little | |
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| Transfer window predictions... on 13:03 - Jan 2 with 4913 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Transfer window predictions... on 12:58 - Jan 2 by itfcjoe |
I'd happily see him have a run in the side, but if it's not going to happen and he just carries on playing infrequently then it will be a big failure of a signing, because one of your 2 valuable loan spots and a big chunk of change will have garnered very little |
lol, why would it be an expensive failure? No chance the club would have thought Phillips was gonna walk in and just breeze through the season, he's had mental and physical issues hence the reason why he's on loan here in the first place.
At the moment, the money paid on J Clarke and Muric look more suspect than the loan of Phillips. | |
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| Transfer window predictions... on 13:05 - Jan 2 with 4905 views | gsoly |
| Transfer window predictions... on 12:58 - Jan 2 by itfcjoe |
I'd happily see him have a run in the side, but if it's not going to happen and he just carries on playing infrequently then it will be a big failure of a signing, because one of your 2 valuable loan spots and a big chunk of change will have garnered very little |
Completely agree with you on this Joe, as you've well explained on the pod. Seems nuts to have the highest earner in the building by some distance sat on the bench.
Only spot I'd argue we're well stocked in is RB/RCB, if we carry on with this formation. O'Shea proving he can play the Axel role. If AT comes back fit and ready to go, think a new signing would be overkill.
Philogene would be brilliant - and I wonder if it might see us wave goodbye to Clarke back to Sunderland, if a loan deal can be done. Szmodics + Broadhead now ahead of him in the pecking order, and leaves us another space in there for Omari/Chappers backup. |  | | |
| Transfer window predictions... on 13:05 - Jan 2 with 4891 views | billlm |
| Transfer window predictions... on 12:16 - Jan 2 by tractorboy1978 |
Agreed. And I think it is pretty dangerous to nail down Morsy as a definite starter and just look for a back up. We've obviously been managing Phillips over the first half of the season, hopefully he can step up now and get back to his best. I think Morsy has been 'good' but I'd say it says more about Phillips/Cajuste's availability that he's been such an ever present. Two players with serious pedigree. |
That's the two who will finish the season as starters, |  | | |
| Transfer window predictions... on 13:07 - Jan 2 with 4874 views | Horsham |
I guess somewhat dependent on the budget.
Young keeper - probably not going to spend big on and perhaps one more oversees and one more domestic loan are sensible and then 2 in the £15-£25m bracket to get the quality to make a difference? |  | | |
| Transfer window predictions... on 13:25 - Jan 2 with 4721 views | itfcjoe |
| Transfer window predictions... on 13:03 - Jan 2 by FrimleyBlue |
lol, why would it be an expensive failure? No chance the club would have thought Phillips was gonna walk in and just breeze through the season, he's had mental and physical issues hence the reason why he's on loan here in the first place.
At the moment, the money paid on J Clarke and Muric look more suspect than the loan of Phillips. |
I imagine the club wouldn't have gone for Phillips on loan for a season at £100k+ a week if all we were going to get from him was a dozen starts - we knew it was a risk but if it ends like that then it's been a failure.
J Clarke and Muric are permanent signings on long contracts who retain value - Phillips is here for now and now alone | |
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| Transfer window predictions... on 13:29 - Jan 2 with 4670 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Transfer window predictions... on 12:58 - Jan 2 by itfcjoe |
I'd happily see him have a run in the side, but if it's not going to happen and he just carries on playing infrequently then it will be a big failure of a signing, because one of your 2 valuable loan spots and a big chunk of change will have garnered very little |
KP's game time has been limited by his sending off and subsequent knee injury. He's been kept out by the form of Cajuste. The fact we have players of that caliber fighting for a spot can never be called a failure.
To call him 'a back up' is unbelievably harsh. |  |
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| Transfer window predictions... on 13:34 - Jan 2 with 4577 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Transfer window predictions... on 13:25 - Jan 2 by itfcjoe |
I imagine the club wouldn't have gone for Phillips on loan for a season at £100k+ a week if all we were going to get from him was a dozen starts - we knew it was a risk but if it ends like that then it's been a failure.
J Clarke and Muric are permanent signings on long contracts who retain value - Phillips is here for now and now alone |
It's only a failure if it doesn't become useful, if it's 12 starts but 25+ appearances and we stay up, it's well worth the money imo | |
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| Transfer window predictions... on 13:48 - Jan 2 with 4498 views | homer_123 |
| Transfer window predictions... on 13:25 - Jan 2 by itfcjoe |
I imagine the club wouldn't have gone for Phillips on loan for a season at £100k+ a week if all we were going to get from him was a dozen starts - we knew it was a risk but if it ends like that then it's been a failure.
J Clarke and Muric are permanent signings on long contracts who retain value - Phillips is here for now and now alone |
He's the kind of player, if we stay up, they we'd be in for though?
I appreciate his current wages would be a stretch for us but he's a player that needs a home. Bielsa got the best of him and I think KM is similar.
From my understanding, KP is really enjoying his time with us, yes, he's not playing as much as he/ us would like him to but there are mitigating circumstances.
I understand he really is re-building his confidence and loves everything about the Club. |  |
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| Transfer window predictions... on 13:52 - Jan 2 with 4457 views | RobTheMonk |
I think Phillips in a great option to have. He seems to be enjoying his time here which hopefully translates on to the training pitch. Experienced at this and international level. And relatively cheap for a season if we're just paying wages contribution.
He's a good player who had a wrong move. |  | | |
| Transfer window predictions... on 15:32 - Jan 2 with 4061 views | itfcjoe |
| Transfer window predictions... on 13:29 - Jan 2 by Cheltenham_Blue |
KP's game time has been limited by his sending off and subsequent knee injury. He's been kept out by the form of Cajuste. The fact we have players of that caliber fighting for a spot can never be called a failure.
To call him 'a back up' is unbelievably harsh. |
He literally is Sam Morsy's back up so I'm not sure how it is unbelievably harsh - we've heard McKenna and Taylor talk about how Cajuste and Taylor are the left sided CMs, and whilst not explicitly said it means that Morsy and Phillips are the right sided ones. | |
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| Transfer window predictions... on 15:37 - Jan 2 with 4014 views | Kev_W |
| Transfer window predictions... on 12:58 - Jan 2 by itfcjoe |
I'd happily see him have a run in the side, but if it's not going to happen and he just carries on playing infrequently then it will be a big failure of a signing, because one of your 2 valuable loan spots and a big chunk of change will have garnered very little |
The last couple of games have illustrated KP's value where his experience and energy have been really useful in the last 20 minutes or so. Finishing games has been a major weakness and even if he was deployed mainly as a finisher/alternative starter and it gave that impetus or security in the last quarter it would be worthwhile.
I don't see many short term alternatives around if he did go back to Man City. | | | |
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