| How is that not handball? 12:38 - Jan 4 with 1389 views | SE1blue |
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| How is that not handball? on 12:40 - Jan 4 with 1373 views | SomethingBlue |
Glad it wasn't given – we need way fewer handball decisions, not more. |  |
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| How is that not handball? on 12:42 - Jan 4 with 1354 views | SaleAway |
because his hands were in a natural position, and the ball hit it from about 30 cms away. Completely accidental. | |
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| How is that not handball? on 12:43 - Jan 4 with 1333 views | SitfcB |
| How is that not handball? on 12:40 - Jan 4 by SomethingBlue |
Glad it wasn't given – we need way fewer handball decisions, not more. |
Agreed but bet we see one along the same lines given in the near future. Inconsistent. |  |
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| How is that not handball? on 12:44 - Jan 4 with 1329 views | SE1blue |
| How is that not handball? on 12:42 - Jan 4 by SaleAway |
because his hands were in a natural position, and the ball hit it from about 30 cms away. Completely accidental. |
Agree with the fact it wasn't deliberate but in the grand scheme of other handballs being given... | |
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| How is that not handball? on 12:45 - Jan 4 with 1298 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| How is that not handball? on 12:42 - Jan 4 by SaleAway |
because his hands were in a natural position, and the ball hit it from about 30 cms away. Completely accidental. |
Absolutely this. He did not move his hand into the path of the ball, and had no time/chance of moving it away. These should be allowed to go, and are imo part of the game. | | | |
| How is that not handball? on 12:46 - Jan 4 with 1295 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| How is that not handball? on 12:43 - Jan 4 by SitfcB |
Agreed but bet we see one along the same lines given in the near future. Inconsistent. |
Yes, this is real problem ATM - consistency of refereeing. | | | |
| How is that not handball? on 13:10 - Jan 4 with 1146 views | redrickstuhaart |
| How is that not handball? on 12:46 - Jan 4 by SuffolkPunchFC |
Yes, this is real problem ATM - consistency of refereeing. |
Unfortunately neither referees nor the FA appear to have any sort of logical or consistent approach to the rules, despite them being set out in writing. Most dont appear to even know them properly, or they get together and via group-think or guidelines from above decide to address things in a way which is not supported by the written laws, and then get in a muddle. [Post edited 4 Jan 13:22]
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| How is that not handball? on 13:51 - Jan 4 with 1027 views | Illinoisblue |
| How is that not handball? on 12:46 - Jan 4 by SuffolkPunchFC |
Yes, this is real problem ATM - consistency of refereeing. |
Inconsistency has always been there; we just see it more because every game in the world is televised now and the VAR debate and analysis magnifies everything. Referees will be perfect just as soon as players are perfect. |  |
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| How is that not handball? on 13:58 - Jan 4 with 1000 views | redrickstuhaart |
| How is that not handball? on 13:51 - Jan 4 by Illinoisblue |
Inconsistency has always been there; we just see it more because every game in the world is televised now and the VAR debate and analysis magnifies everything. Referees will be perfect just as soon as players are perfect. |
I think its beyond that.
Refs used to know and apply the rules, not invent their own guidelines in secret.
See recent handballs, and booking Delap for existing because you have to book one from each side. | | | |
| How is that not handball? on 14:24 - Jan 4 with 921 views | bsw72 |
| How is that not handball? on 12:46 - Jan 4 by SuffolkPunchFC |
Yes, this is real problem ATM - consistency of refereeing. |
The problem is the expectation of consistency for something that is primarily subjective, as the laws are written in such a way that the interpretation is down to the individual.
The only objective decisions are usually whether the ball has crossed a line, everything else is down to interpretation, even some offsides are debated around whether a player is interfering.
There has never been and never will be consistency in football refereeing while the laws are written as they are and games are refereed by humans. |  | | |
| How is that not handball? on 14:38 - Jan 4 with 898 views | Illinoisblue |
| How is that not handball? on 13:58 - Jan 4 by redrickstuhaart |
I think its beyond that.
Refs used to know and apply the rules, not invent their own guidelines in secret.
See recent handballs, and booking Delap for existing because you have to book one from each side. |
I’m still not convinced on the explanation for that Delap booking. It defies all logic that someone has to be booked but it can be anyone. It’s literally nonsense. Any refs on here able to confirm? | |
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| How is that not handball? on 14:43 - Jan 4 with 868 views | Wickets |
Never handball completely accidental no intent no handball . A return to common sense as it always was and should be . |  | | |
| How is that not handball? on 15:03 - Jan 4 with 787 views | norfsufblue |
| How is that not handball? on 14:43 - Jan 4 by Wickets |
Never handball completely accidental no intent no handball . A return to common sense as it always was and should be . |
I t would be much simpler if the Law was that if you gained an advantage from the ball hitting your hand then the opposition get a free kick.... deliberately handling the ball is where sanctions should be issued... still subjective clear ( this is the basis which accepted by all in hockey re feet ) |  | | |
| How is that not handball? on 15:21 - Jan 4 with 729 views | Garv |
| How is that not handball? on 14:38 - Jan 4 by Illinoisblue |
I’m still not convinced on the explanation for that Delap booking. It defies all logic that someone has to be booked but it can be anyone. It’s literally nonsense. Any refs on here able to confirm? |
All we've had to go on with the Delap booking is what McKenna said about it, and I'm not sure he was claiming to give a direct quote was he? Happy to be told otherwise but it's quite vague intel to use to go after the referee about. Seems odd admittedly, but for all we know McKenna misunderstood what he was told. |  |
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| How is that not handball? on 15:26 - Jan 4 with 709 views | Garv |
Very surprised it was allowed, but very glad. We got to a point in the last few years where we were basically punishing players for having hands and arms, irrespective of what they were actually doing with them.
Fewer handballs is a good thing. Weirdly though I think if there hadn't been the possibility of a goal in that passage of play, e.g if it was in the centre circle and more of a congested midfield, the referee would have blown up. That's why you'll always have inconsistency, because no two decisions are ever the same. It's pointless constantly bleating about it. [Post edited 4 Jan 20:12]
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| How is that not handball? on 15:26 - Jan 4 with 699 views | redrickstuhaart |
| How is that not handball? on 15:03 - Jan 4 by norfsufblue |
I t would be much simpler if the Law was that if you gained an advantage from the ball hitting your hand then the opposition get a free kick.... deliberately handling the ball is where sanctions should be issued... still subjective clear ( this is the basis which accepted by all in hockey re feet ) |
No. It would be simpler if it just went back to how it was, befor ethey messed with it, and applied it properly.
Is it intentional (to include recklessly making yourself bigger). If so handball.
You could add, if we must, if a goal is scored or prevented directly by accidental handball that should be addressed. Done. | | | |
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