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I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore 18:11 - Jan 5 with 20714 viewstextbackup

Please just bring on anyone but him to play the last 5/10 until we get in someone semi decent.

How can a professional footballer be that unfit for 5mins

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I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:39 - Jan 5 with 2203 viewsChurchman

I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:25 - Jan 5 by JammyDodgerrr

Good that now Muric has been benched we can get started on the next player we've decided we don't like.


I think the scapegoat running order is:

1. Muric
2. AAH
3. Jack Clarke
4. Harry Clarke
5. Burns

Mind you, not playing should stop the happy haters holding back. The bloke I sit next to has a go at Harry Clarke every game even if he isn’t playing. There was a mild pause when Harry smashed that goal in against somebody, but he was setting about him within a few minutes.

Be afraid Muric! And AAH, of course.
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I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:39 - Jan 5 with 2183 viewsFrimleyBlue

I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:30 - Jan 5 by FoghornGleghorn

If the "point" is that AAH is not an answer, that's not news to anybody. All that's really expected of him at this point is to scrap around and keep defenders occupied, and since the general consensus is that we should have been managing the game out at the stage he came on rather than trying to create a third goal, there's not really anything to criticise him to the blubby degree of the OP.


He's not really a sub you can bring on to manage a game or to chase a goal. Think that's his point. He came on. Fouled them a few times. Didn't chase a ball and then the whistle went. I personally don't know how people think he disrupts defenders, imo they breath a sigh of relief that he's coming on.

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I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:39 - Jan 5 with 2199 viewsDropCliffsNotBombs

Proper fan is texters.
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I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:40 - Jan 5 with 2187 viewsE_I_E_I_E_I_O

I don’t understand the down votes. You are right he is so far out of his depth it’s cringeworthy and the fact he didn’t chase down a ball that would have clearly stay d in is unacceptable. Fortunately that should be his last action in the PL.
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I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:40 - Jan 5 with 2157 viewsFrimleyBlue

I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:40 - Jan 5 by E_I_E_I_E_I_O

I don’t understand the down votes. You are right he is so far out of his depth it’s cringeworthy and the fact he didn’t chase down a ball that would have clearly stay d in is unacceptable. Fortunately that should be his last action in the PL.


Because he plays for town you have no choice but to love them.

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I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:41 - Jan 5 with 2173 viewstextbackup

I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:39 - Jan 5 by DropCliffsNotBombs

Proper fan is texters.


Didn’t realise you were only a decent fan if you watched it blind, like a twt

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I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:44 - Jan 5 with 2130 viewsTonytown

I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:41 - Jan 5 by textbackup

Didn’t realise you were only a decent fan if you watched it blind, like a twt


The only tw*t on this thread is you.

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I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:45 - Jan 5 with 2114 viewsLeoMuff

I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:36 - Jan 5 by textbackup

Sorry Ali. You ran so hard, controlled the ball great. Credit


If you want to blub like a toddler, maybe aim it in the right place. What’s AAH supposed to do, make himself unavailable as he isn’t at the required level. He is all we have at present is that so hard to understand ?

Maybe blame Ashton or recruitment for dragging out the unfit Broja until we had no choice or Hirsts knee ligament for having the temerity to tweak.

Or KMC for picking him - Jeez.

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I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:46 - Jan 5 with 2100 viewsDropCliffsNotBombs

I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:41 - Jan 5 by textbackup

Didn’t realise you were only a decent fan if you watched it blind, like a twt


Oh man, this is hard to watch.
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I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:47 - Jan 5 with 2097 viewstextbackup

I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:44 - Jan 5 by Tonytown

The only tw*t on this thread is you.

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😂😂

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I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:47 - Jan 5 with 2075 viewsFrimleyBlue

I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:45 - Jan 5 by LeoMuff

If you want to blub like a toddler, maybe aim it in the right place. What’s AAH supposed to do, make himself unavailable as he isn’t at the required level. He is all we have at present is that so hard to understand ?

Maybe blame Ashton or recruitment for dragging out the unfit Broja until we had no choice or Hirsts knee ligament for having the temerity to tweak.

Or KMC for picking him - Jeez.


Think he is moaning about him being picked.

But as a supporter it is very painful when you see him coming on.

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I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:48 - Jan 5 with 2077 viewsNeedhamChris

I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:33 - Jan 5 by redrickstuhaart

Name the alternative.

Second chance.

Also, how the feck do you know? See Burns / Frimmers.

Moronic stuff.


On the latter point, if a player or their family comes onto a football forum then that's their own mistake and it's on them to deal with the consequences.

Players or their families getting upset at negative posts is as pathetic now as it was when it was Burns. It shouldn't be used as an excuse to slam anyone with a harsh opinion.

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I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:50 - Jan 5 with 2061 viewsJ2BLUE

I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:47 - Jan 5 by FrimleyBlue

Think he is moaning about him being picked.

But as a supporter it is very painful when you see him coming on.



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I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:51 - Jan 5 with 2047 viewsNeedhamChris

I don't particularly agree with the delivery here - I don't blame him. He looks worse because of the level he's being asked to play at.

But I also have had enough of seeing this substitution. Hopefully we can now rectify the biggest mistake of the summer window by adding another striker asap.

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I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:51 - Jan 5 with 2055 viewsSwailsey

We have to be able to have some middle ground here. The OP was inflammatory but we were clearly much worse off when Delap and Broadhead came off. AAH and Clarke did not offer enough, were too easily pushed off the ball and couldn’t make it stick (Clarke’s shot aside).

We are allowed to say that players played badly or that they aren’t at the level we need.

I know a lot of the responses on here are around the OTT OP, but there has been a real trend lately around ANY comments which aren’t positive being accused as scapegoating etc. People have to be allowed to calmly debate that both Clarkes may not be up to this level, that Muric has weaknesses and that AAH is clearly not fit enough/developed enough to play in the top flight on current showings. Even rational comments are hit with pushback.

Several things let us down today - Morsy and Leif’s stupid challenges and IMO Delap coming off - he surely could have lasted 10 more minutes.

Good point away from home though.

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I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:53 - Jan 5 with 2019 viewsNeedhamChris

I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:51 - Jan 5 by Swailsey

We have to be able to have some middle ground here. The OP was inflammatory but we were clearly much worse off when Delap and Broadhead came off. AAH and Clarke did not offer enough, were too easily pushed off the ball and couldn’t make it stick (Clarke’s shot aside).

We are allowed to say that players played badly or that they aren’t at the level we need.

I know a lot of the responses on here are around the OTT OP, but there has been a real trend lately around ANY comments which aren’t positive being accused as scapegoating etc. People have to be allowed to calmly debate that both Clarkes may not be up to this level, that Muric has weaknesses and that AAH is clearly not fit enough/developed enough to play in the top flight on current showings. Even rational comments are hit with pushback.

Several things let us down today - Morsy and Leif’s stupid challenges and IMO Delap coming off - he surely could have lasted 10 more minutes.

Good point away from home though.


This is a good summary I think. Fair to criticise the manner of the OP but the whole scapegoating thing does seem to imply you can't criticise anyone .

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I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:54 - Jan 5 with 1990 viewsFrimleyBlue

I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:48 - Jan 5 by NeedhamChris

On the latter point, if a player or their family comes onto a football forum then that's their own mistake and it's on them to deal with the consequences.

Players or their families getting upset at negative posts is as pathetic now as it was when it was Burns. It shouldn't be used as an excuse to slam anyone with a harsh opinion.


People have ignored the main issue wasn't my posting. They know online boards is a mixed place. I went ott with it mind up. But that still wasn't the issue solely.
The issue was when supporters starting messaging wes directly. That should never happen. So when you combine posts like mine were and then people start messaging directly. That's to far for someone doing their best in the shirt.

however there is a way of talking about a player. The OP is strong. I don't agree with the wording but I agree with the sentiment.

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I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:56 - Jan 5 with 1949 viewsFrimleyBlue

I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:50 - Jan 5 by J2BLUE



Do you not agree j2.. do you see him lining up and think excellent Al hamadis coming on..

That's no slight on him. He can't help his level and how we've promoted ourselves so soon.. but I can't believe anyone would be keen to see him coming on.

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I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:58 - Jan 5 with 1915 viewsBlibbiBlob1976

I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:27 - Jan 5 by textbackup

Blub. Honestly. Fck up.

He’s sht. And just being ok with it time after time is pointless.

We could bring on someone to actually impact a game. But you dare say that on here, and it’s daggers out.


I agree that he is very far below the standards required. He looks injured as if he can’t run properly!?
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I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:59 - Jan 5 with 1904 viewsJ2BLUE

I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:56 - Jan 5 by FrimleyBlue

Do you not agree j2.. do you see him lining up and think excellent Al hamadis coming on..

That's no slight on him. He can't help his level and how we've promoted ourselves so soon.. but I can't believe anyone would be keen to see him coming on.


Apologies for the Badger-esque linking to my own post

Man of Match - AAH according to BBC! by J2BLUE 5 Jan 18:53
Literally no one has said he's a Premier League player. He was signed to do a job in the Championship and he did. He's a victim of our success. All people are saying is support him. suspect his games for us in the Prem are very nearly at an end.

Do you think he goes out there on the pitch and doesn't try? If the issue is quality then just support him. We all know he is not a Premier League striker at this time.


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I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 19:10 - Jan 5 with 1815 viewsChurchman

I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:48 - Jan 5 by NeedhamChris

On the latter point, if a player or their family comes onto a football forum then that's their own mistake and it's on them to deal with the consequences.

Players or their families getting upset at negative posts is as pathetic now as it was when it was Burns. It shouldn't be used as an excuse to slam anyone with a harsh opinion.


Describing somebody as ‘that cart horse’ is wrong. Would anyone say that to his face? If you did, your day might end painfully. It’s rude and unnecessary.

The Captain and the Manager have asked supporters not to conduct scapegoating on our own players because it can only help the opposition. There seems to be plenty that disagree and will carry on regardless.

Presumably, given it was McKenna that sent him on, it’ll soon be time for the grumpybunch to start on him to try and get him out? Why not? He picks the team and sends subs on. I’m sure they’d love a new manager. The speculation, the reveal, the scarf, the badge kissing. Hurrah. I wouldn’t.

The reality is that AAH doesn’t deserve to receive words like ‘cart horse’. We all know what his current level is and have a good idea his fitness. I suspect McKenna and the coaches have a bit of a clue too. We are light on forwards. But everyone wants those and it was always a worry going into a season with just Hirst and Delap.

Hopefully, things will improve with the transfer window but if they don’t, I think the ownership and manager have enough credit in the bank for most sideline idiots like me to accept the situation for what it is.
[Post edited 5 Jan 19:26]
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I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 19:16 - Jan 5 with 1763 viewsFrimleyBlue

I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 18:59 - Jan 5 by J2BLUE

Apologies for the Badger-esque linking to my own post

Man of Match - AAH according to BBC! by J2BLUE 5 Jan 18:53
Literally no one has said he's a Premier League player. He was signed to do a job in the Championship and he did. He's a victim of our success. All people are saying is support him. suspect his games for us in the Prem are very nearly at an end.

Do you think he goes out there on the pitch and doesn't try? If the issue is quality then just support him. We all know he is not a Premier League striker at this time.



Appreciate that j2. Doesn't quite answer my question tho.

I agree with you that it's not his fault etc.. but as a town supporter it's hard to see his number go up and think brilliant.

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I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 19:17 - Jan 5 with 1771 viewsMK1

It ain't his fault we got promoted so quickly. Yes he isn't PL ready, but he does try his best and that is all I ask. Think he will be loaned out once we get another through the door, but we really don't need these kind of threads.

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I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 19:21 - Jan 5 with 1750 viewstextbackup

I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 19:10 - Jan 5 by Churchman

Describing somebody as ‘that cart horse’ is wrong. Would anyone say that to his face? If you did, your day might end painfully. It’s rude and unnecessary.

The Captain and the Manager have asked supporters not to conduct scapegoating on our own players because it can only help the opposition. There seems to be plenty that disagree and will carry on regardless.

Presumably, given it was McKenna that sent him on, it’ll soon be time for the grumpybunch to start on him to try and get him out? Why not? He picks the team and sends subs on. I’m sure they’d love a new manager. The speculation, the reveal, the scarf, the badge kissing. Hurrah. I wouldn’t.

The reality is that AAH doesn’t deserve to receive words like ‘cart horse’. We all know what his current level is and have a good idea his fitness. I suspect McKenna and the coaches have a bit of a clue too. We are light on forwards. But everyone wants those and it was always a worry going into a season with just Hirst and Delap.

Hopefully, things will improve with the transfer window but if they don’t, I think the ownership and manager have enough credit in the bank for most sideline idiots like me to accept the situation for what it is.
[Post edited 5 Jan 19:26]


Ok, his fitness is awful.
Anyone with eyes can see this

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I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 19:22 - Jan 5 with 1740 viewsredrickstuhaart

I can’t watch that cart horse, unfit bloke come on for us anymore on 19:21 - Jan 5 by textbackup

Ok, his fitness is awful.
Anyone with eyes can see this


Div listed. Seriously.
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