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IMF upgrades UK growth forecast 15:35 - Jan 17 with 3316 viewsDJR

Economic forecasting doesn't necessarily have a good record, and there will be factors at play which have nothing to do with the government, but this report is perhaps counterintuitive given the current narrative.

The UK upgrade was in contrast to the eurozone, where the IMF revised down its forecasts for growth in 2025 in Germany, France and Italy.

The chancellor, Rachel Reeves, said: “The UK is forecast to be the fastest growing major European economy over the next two years and the only G7 economy, apart from the US, to have its growth forecast upgraded for this year."

Germany was expected to recover from a two-year period of contraction with a 0.8% growth rate in 2025, but the forecast was downgraded in the latest assessment to just 0.3%. France is predicted to grow by 0.8% after a 0.3 percentage point downgrade.

Next year, the UK is on course to grow by 1.6%, topping France, Germany and Italy for a second successive year.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/jan/17/imf-upgrades-uk-growth-forecast

And for those interested, this contains a link to the full report.

https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/WEO/Issues/2025/01/17/world-economic-outlook
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IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 15:46 - Jan 17 with 2907 viewsIllinoisblue

One-hit wonders really. Unbelievable was a banger but never really kicked on from there. Nice to see them branching out to economics.

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IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 15:53 - Jan 17 with 2865 viewsNthQldITFC

IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 15:46 - Jan 17 by Illinoisblue

One-hit wonders really. Unbelievable was a banger but never really kicked on from there. Nice to see them branching out to economics.


Funny time of the night to release a forecast too, 3 a.m.
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IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 15:56 - Jan 17 with 2863 viewsDJR

IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 15:46 - Jan 17 by Illinoisblue

One-hit wonders really. Unbelievable was a banger but never really kicked on from there. Nice to see them branching out to economics.


Maybe we can turn this into a music thread and so reduce the risk of its being pulled.

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IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 16:01 - Jan 17 with 2832 viewsBlueBadger

IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 15:46 - Jan 17 by Illinoisblue

One-hit wonders really. Unbelievable was a banger but never really kicked on from there. Nice to see them branching out to economics.


I don't think I've listened to this track in about 25 years.


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IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 16:10 - Jan 17 with 2775 viewsDJR

Of course when talk turns to the economy, never far behind is the

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IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 16:43 - Jan 17 with 2694 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

Almost like it’s dynamic.

Despite what the tin-hatters might think, there will be a boost from a (hopefully lasting ceasefire in Gaza). Supply chains should become more secure in the region. The Economist estimated prolonged conflicts in the Middle East and Ukraine could cost the global economy over $1trn.
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IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 17:05 - Jan 17 with 2645 viewsDJR

IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 16:43 - Jan 17 by SuperKieranMcKenna

Almost like it’s dynamic.

Despite what the tin-hatters might think, there will be a boost from a (hopefully lasting ceasefire in Gaza). Supply chains should become more secure in the region. The Economist estimated prolonged conflicts in the Middle East and Ukraine could cost the global economy over $1trn.


Closer to home, this is what City AM reports.

The IMF’s chief economist, Pierre-Olivier Gourinchas, said some of the revision reflects “continued pick-up in real incomes and consumption”, and the fact that the Bank of England has started, and is expected to continue, cutting interest rates.

But he said it also reflects policy measures in the autumn Budget which are expected to boost public investment in the UK.

“We see some positives coming from increased public spending,” Gourinchas said.

“Of course, some of the Budget is financed by increased taxes – national insurance contributions have been increased – that could weigh down, but the net effect in our assessment is still positive for growth for the UK economy in 2025.”
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IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 17:08 - Jan 17 with 2611 viewsnodge_blue

That's a bit of good news and Im pleased for Labour and the country. Lets hope it happens.

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IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 18:04 - Jan 17 with 2525 viewsfactual_blue

IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 17:05 - Jan 17 by DJR

Closer to home, this is what City AM reports.

The IMF’s chief economist, Pierre-Olivier Gourinchas, said some of the revision reflects “continued pick-up in real incomes and consumption”, and the fact that the Bank of England has started, and is expected to continue, cutting interest rates.

But he said it also reflects policy measures in the autumn Budget which are expected to boost public investment in the UK.

“We see some positives coming from increased public spending,” Gourinchas said.

“Of course, some of the Budget is financed by increased taxes – national insurance contributions have been increased – that could weigh down, but the net effect in our assessment is still positive for growth for the UK economy in 2025.”


Yeah, but Keir Starmer is literally murdering farmers by reintroducing the inheritance tax they were excused in 1986.

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IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 18:22 - Jan 17 with 2487 viewsDubtractor

IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 15:46 - Jan 17 by Illinoisblue

One-hit wonders really. Unbelievable was a banger but never really kicked on from there. Nice to see them branching out to economics.


First it was Brian Cox graduating from D:Ream, and now this.

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IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 19:14 - Jan 17 with 2437 viewsNthQldITFC

IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 18:22 - Jan 17 by Dubtractor

First it was Brian Cox graduating from D:Ream, and now this.

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Liz Truss played the triangle for Motörhead didn't she?

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IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 19:23 - Jan 17 with 2421 viewsthecheek

IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 18:22 - Jan 17 by Dubtractor

First it was Brian Cox graduating from D:Ream, and now this.

What other pop stars have ended up in more intellectually challenging jobs?


More a side step but the lead singer of EMF went on to be a secondary school music teacher
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IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 22:20 - Jan 17 with 2261 viewsYou_Bloo_Right

IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 16:10 - Jan 17 by DJR

Of course when talk turns to the economy, never far behind is the

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IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 08:07 - Jan 18 with 2117 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 15:46 - Jan 17 by Illinoisblue

One-hit wonders really. Unbelievable was a banger but never really kicked on from there. Nice to see them branching out to economics.


Children was superb as well...


Trust the process. Trust Phil.

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IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 08:20 - Jan 18 with 2070 viewsGlasgowBlue

IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 17:05 - Jan 17 by DJR

Closer to home, this is what City AM reports.

The IMF’s chief economist, Pierre-Olivier Gourinchas, said some of the revision reflects “continued pick-up in real incomes and consumption”, and the fact that the Bank of England has started, and is expected to continue, cutting interest rates.

But he said it also reflects policy measures in the autumn Budget which are expected to boost public investment in the UK.

“We see some positives coming from increased public spending,” Gourinchas said.

“Of course, some of the Budget is financed by increased taxes – national insurance contributions have been increased – that could weigh down, but the net effect in our assessment is still positive for growth for the UK economy in 2025.”


Probably best not to get too excited. What hasn’t been reported is that the IMF forecast of 1.6% is still quite a bit lower than the OBR forecast for 2025 of 2% on which Reeves fiscal sums are based.

There will need to be tax rises, breaking a manifesto commitment, or spending cuts this year.

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IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 08:55 - Jan 18 with 2024 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 16:43 - Jan 17 by SuperKieranMcKenna

Almost like it’s dynamic.

Despite what the tin-hatters might think, there will be a boost from a (hopefully lasting ceasefire in Gaza). Supply chains should become more secure in the region. The Economist estimated prolonged conflicts in the Middle East and Ukraine could cost the global economy over $1trn.


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IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 09:32 - Jan 18 with 1972 viewsDJR

IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 08:20 - Jan 18 by GlasgowBlue

Probably best not to get too excited. What hasn’t been reported is that the IMF forecast of 1.6% is still quite a bit lower than the OBR forecast for 2025 of 2% on which Reeves fiscal sums are based.

There will need to be tax rises, breaking a manifesto commitment, or spending cuts this year.


I'm not particularly excited given, as I suggested in the OP, economic forecasting is more of an art than a science.

Indeed, as this article points out ,the OBR don't have a particularly good record, although they are the only game in town when it comes to the Budget.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/63588631#:~:text=So%20how%20accurate%20have%20the%20O

"So how accurate have the OBR's predictions been in the past?

Ten of its 15 pre-pandemic forecasts for growth (shown on the left of the chart below) have been within two percentage points of the economy's eventual growth. [Meaning 5 were outside that.]

That is slightly better than the margin of error the OBR provides with its forecasts, but two percentage points is still tens of billions of pounds for an economy the size of the UK's."

And when it comes to borrowing, 13 of those forecasts ended up with higher borrowing than forecast.
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IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 17:03 - Jan 18 with 1774 viewsDJR

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IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 17:15 - Jan 18 with 1740 viewsZapers

Grasping at straws? Seems like you have one follower living in hope, or dreamland?.

Rachel from accounts will be yesterday’s news soon.

She’s even happy to be called the “Iron chancellor”

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IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 17:36 - Jan 18 with 1691 viewsDJR

IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 17:15 - Jan 18 by Zapers

Grasping at straws? Seems like you have one follower living in hope, or dreamland?.

Rachel from accounts will be yesterday’s news soon.

She’s even happy to be called the “Iron chancellor”

Proud to admit she admired thatcher🤣


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IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 17:38 - Jan 18 with 1673 viewsPhilTWTD

IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 17:15 - Jan 18 by Zapers

Grasping at straws? Seems like you have one follower living in hope, or dreamland?.

Rachel from accounts will be yesterday’s news soon.

She’s even happy to be called the “Iron chancellor”

Proud to admit she admired thatcher🤣


The Iron Chancellor was Otto von Bismarck.
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IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 18:01 - Jan 18 with 1561 viewsblueasfook

IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 17:15 - Jan 18 by Zapers

Grasping at straws? Seems like you have one follower living in hope, or dreamland?.

Rachel from accounts will be yesterday’s news soon.

She’s even happy to be called the “Iron chancellor”

Proud to admit she admired thatcher🤣


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IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 06:18 - Jan 19 with 1344 viewsZapers

IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 17:38 - Jan 18 by PhilTWTD

The Iron Chancellor was Otto von Bismarck.


Yes and see what happened to the war ship named after him;)

Sunk without trace, much as likely will be the case with Rachel from accounts🤣
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IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 06:19 - Jan 19 with 1342 viewsZapers

IMF upgrades UK growth forecast on 17:36 - Jan 18 by DJR

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