| Phillips vs Morsy 20:13 - Jan 17 with 3649 views | Bellevue_Blue |
I think Kalvin Phillips is a perfectly fine Premier League squad player but I think last night showed again that we miss Morsy when he doesn't play.
Every time Morsy receives the ball off the back 4, he's looking to get on the half turn and play forward into the two 10's. The opposite is true of Kalvin, he's consistently happy just to pop the ball sideways or backwards and that is entirely ineffective when playing against a high press. I think it was a big reason why or attacking return was so poor last night.
We need CM's who can drive us forward and both Morsy & Cajuste do that. |  | | |  |
| Phillips vs Morsy on 20:20 - Jan 17 with 2923 views | AG26 |
You're using last night as the example?
He came off the bench, gave away a needless foul and then refused to defend for the second goal, him and O'Shea standing there like two lemons.
Clearly a very important player for us but you using last night as an example suggests you didn't watch the game | | | |
| Phillips vs Morsy on 20:24 - Jan 17 with 2871 views | norfsufblue |
Morsy is so important to us...he's fine playing with either Cajuste or Phillips... I sometimes think Cajuste needs a warmup 10 mins and then begins to impress himself on the game... Phillips is a steady Eddie in midfield and there is a role for that particularly when you can suddenly ping a 60 pass onto sixpence as he can..... just don't think KP and JC combine that effectively... all three together might be worth a go but that would require a complete change of system and I doubt Special K would risk that at this stage. For me it's Morsy Cajuste with Phillips to rotate when required. |  | | |
| Phillips vs Morsy on 20:26 - Jan 17 with 2849 views | FrimleyBlue |
Last night didn't show that imo
Cajuste. Davis and greaves worked together first half to create a triangle and when successful we broke and the 3 attempts we had came from that sort of action.
Phillips job was to protect the backline. He shuffled over and worked well with Burns to reduce the threat of mitoma which again he did well doing.
Having morsy wouldn't have offered any thing different. I imagine burns would have had to work even harder to reduce the wide threat and potentially struggled as morsy tends to sit in front of the box rather than shuffle across and follow runners. Esp those who invert.
Imo. Morsy does work best when we were 4 2 3 1. But it's the opposite when we are 5 4 1 and 3 4 3. Imo. |  |
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| Phillips vs Morsy on 20:30 - Jan 17 with 2815 views | jasondozzell |
| Phillips vs Morsy on 20:20 - Jan 17 by AG26 |
You're using last night as the example?
He came off the bench, gave away a needless foul and then refused to defend for the second goal, him and O'Shea standing there like two lemons.
Clearly a very important player for us but you using last night as an example suggests you didn't watch the game |
You can't compare 20 minutes off the bench into a game where we had lost composure and Brighton were controlling to starting the game.
I really like Phillips. Seems like a lovely bloke, clearly a very very good footballer, very tidy and has shown lots of good things but a bit of an enigma.
Does he affect the game enough? Morsy is so good at driving us on and breaking lines through that signature half turn move. I felt we missed that so much.
Phillips was playing the 6 and Cajuste the 8 last night but I'm not sure about them together. |  | | |
| Phillips vs Morsy on 20:30 - Jan 17 with 2810 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| Phillips vs Morsy on 20:20 - Jan 17 by AG26 |
You're using last night as the example?
He came off the bench, gave away a needless foul and then refused to defend for the second goal, him and O'Shea standing there like two lemons.
Clearly a very important player for us but you using last night as an example suggests you didn't watch the game |
And the response suggests you didn't even read the post! The two of them have their fair share of defensive flaws, nobody is arguing that.
My point is that in the attacking phase of the game Phillips' first instinct is to go backwards or sideways whereas Morsy's is always to get on the half turn and go forward and that gives us a lot of our attacking threat! Same as when Cajuste does it.
Maybe refer to the point I'm making before trying to tell fellow fans that 'they didn't watch the game'. [Post edited 17 Jan 20:31]
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| Phillips vs Morsy on 20:34 - Jan 17 with 2754 views | GlasgowBlue |
As soon as Morsy came on he gave the ball away. His next touch was a foul on the edge of the box which lead to their second goal. |  |
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| Phillips vs Morsy on 20:37 - Jan 17 with 2708 views | GeoffSentence |
| Phillips vs Morsy on 20:34 - Jan 17 by GlasgowBlue |
As soon as Morsy came on he gave the ball away. His next touch was a foul on the edge of the box which lead to their second goal. |
I was very surprised when the ref gave that foul. In general I thought the ref had a decent game, but that was one of a few decisions I did not agree with. |  |
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| Phillips vs Morsy on 20:58 - Jan 17 with 2552 views | Illinoisblue |
Plot twist; play them both and rest Cajuste. |  |
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| Phillips vs Morsy on 21:00 - Jan 17 with 2538 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Phillips vs Morsy on 20:58 - Jan 17 by Illinoisblue |
Plot twist; play them both and rest Cajuste. |
Or. Play all three when teams go 3 in the middle. | |
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| Phillips vs Morsy on 21:10 - Jan 17 with 2495 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Phillips vs Morsy on 20:37 - Jan 17 by GeoffSentence |
I was very surprised when the ref gave that foul. In general I thought the ref had a decent game, but that was one of a few decisions I did not agree with. |
Morsy was all over him. | |
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| Phillips vs Morsy on 21:11 - Jan 17 with 2487 views | seblue78 |
Completely agree. And trying to use last night as an example against morsy is silly. Phillips is fine but Morsy is more important to our style of play. He is as always willing to receive the ball from the defence. Links the play better than anyone, and often drives and breaks the lines. Yes it’s harder in the prem - it is for everyone - but to me last night showed why KM starts with him and leaves him on. Big shoes to fill… | | | |
| Phillips vs Morsy on 21:16 - Jan 17 with 2448 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Phillips vs Morsy on 21:10 - Jan 17 by GlasgowBlue |
Morsy was all over him. |
He's in the top 90% of the league for fouls committed. | |
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| Phillips vs Morsy on 21:17 - Jan 17 with 2436 views | Kieran_Knows |
Morsy everyday of the week for me and it’s not even close. |  |
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| Phillips vs Morsy on 21:24 - Jan 17 with 2394 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Phillips vs Morsy on 21:17 - Jan 17 by Kieran_Knows |
Morsy everyday of the week for me and it’s not even close. |
It's views like that, that pretty much welcomes relegation.
A 33 year old who can't last more than 60 minutes is not the answer.
He's our skipper and he's a leader. But the playing side needs more than he can give us. | |
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| Phillips vs Morsy on 21:25 - Jan 17 with 2403 views | LankHenners |
I don't think last night is a good example to be honest. There seems to be a general refusal to accept that Brighton did a number on us with their set up and were very good and pressing and closing off space. I struggle to accept that someone as slow as Morsy is on and off the ball would have helped much in all honesty.
Guess it's always been the case for as long as people have been talking football but seems particularly prevalent at the moment that whenever we lose people are convinced a player that didn't play would definitely have made a big difference. |  |
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| Phillips vs Morsy on 21:29 - Jan 17 with 2353 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Phillips vs Morsy on 21:24 - Jan 17 by FrimleyBlue |
It's views like that, that pretty much welcomes relegation.
A 33 year old who can't last more than 60 minutes is not the answer.
He's our skipper and he's a leader. But the playing side needs more than he can give us. |
I think he will struggle even more in March.
Trying to keep up in the Prem wont be easy while fasting. I think he dropped off a bit last season. |  |
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| Phillips vs Morsy on 21:32 - Jan 17 with 2317 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Phillips vs Morsy on 21:24 - Jan 17 by FrimleyBlue |
It's views like that, that pretty much welcomes relegation.
A 33 year old who can't last more than 60 minutes is not the answer.
He's our skipper and he's a leader. But the playing side needs more than he can give us. |
Maybe, but I’ve seen nothing from Phillips yet that suggests he should be starting in place of Morsy. He’s been in and out of the side, but I have to say I’ve been a bit underwhelmed by Phillips so far.
Major surgery needed in centre mid in the summer I think, with up to 3 leaving us I would imagine - Phillips loan ends, Luongo released and either we keep Cajuste because we’ve stayed up and Taylor leaves, or we’re relegated and Cajuste returns to Napoli and Taylor stays as another squad option. | |
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| Phillips vs Morsy on 21:35 - Jan 17 with 2281 views | seblue78 |
| Phillips vs Morsy on 21:24 - Jan 17 by FrimleyBlue |
It's views like that, that pretty much welcomes relegation.
A 33 year old who can't last more than 60 minutes is not the answer.
He's our skipper and he's a leader. But the playing side needs more than he can give us. |
That’s a hot take to say the least. If we do go down I doubt it’ll be due to Morsy. He’s played in every good performance we’ve had this season. And has contributed far more than Phillips so far. | | | |
| Phillips vs Morsy on 21:36 - Jan 17 with 2267 views | AG26 |
| Phillips vs Morsy on 20:30 - Jan 17 by Bellevue_Blue |
And the response suggests you didn't even read the post! The two of them have their fair share of defensive flaws, nobody is arguing that.
My point is that in the attacking phase of the game Phillips' first instinct is to go backwards or sideways whereas Morsy's is always to get on the half turn and go forward and that gives us a lot of our attacking threat! Same as when Cajuste does it.
Maybe refer to the point I'm making before trying to tell fellow fans that 'they didn't watch the game'. [Post edited 17 Jan 20:31]
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I agree with you that Morsy should start over Phillips.
You said that last night showed we miss Morsy when he doesn't play
Which is baffling as he didn't play well last night and was directly responsible for one of the goals
Hence the question as to whether you watched the game, because surely if you did you wouldn't have made that point | | | |
| Phillips vs Morsy on 21:38 - Jan 17 with 2234 views | seblue78 |
| Phillips vs Morsy on 21:36 - Jan 17 by AG26 |
I agree with you that Morsy should start over Phillips.
You said that last night showed we miss Morsy when he doesn't play
Which is baffling as he didn't play well last night and was directly responsible for one of the goals
Hence the question as to whether you watched the game, because surely if you did you wouldn't have made that point |
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| Phillips vs Morsy on 22:17 - Jan 17 with 2061 views | DavoIPB |
Completely disagree. Morsy has been really poor for quite a few games now. Gave ball away three times in dangerous places in Newcastle game. Looked completely lost in last few games. Philips a much better all round player. Midfield wasn't a problem for us yesterday until Morsy and Taylor came on. Noticed abig drop off when cajuste ran out of steam.
Morsy is the king of going sideways and backwards and is now too slow for this league. Philips passing is way better and if given time I think will work really well with cajuste. | | | |
| Phillips vs Morsy on 23:26 - Jan 17 with 1804 views | Stenvict |
| Phillips vs Morsy on 22:17 - Jan 17 by DavoIPB |
Completely disagree. Morsy has been really poor for quite a few games now. Gave ball away three times in dangerous places in Newcastle game. Looked completely lost in last few games. Philips a much better all round player. Midfield wasn't a problem for us yesterday until Morsy and Taylor came on. Noticed abig drop off when cajuste ran out of steam.
Morsy is the king of going sideways and backwards and is now too slow for this league. Philips passing is way better and if given time I think will work really well with cajuste. |
Morsy was excellent against Chelsea, against 2x £100m midfielders. Granted, the foul in the Fulham game for the penalty was stupid, but overall this season he's been one of our better players, I'd say. | |
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| Phillips vs Morsy on 23:35 - Jan 17 with 1773 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Phillips vs Morsy on 21:10 - Jan 17 by GlasgowBlue |
Morsy was all over him. |
That's a piss poor choice of avatar!
Remember 50,000 dead.
Edit...PS, how many more hostages would still be alive if Nethanyahoo had admitted he turned his back on his country's security, got complacent about mass detention in Gaza and negotiated their release ? [Post edited 17 Jan 23:42]
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| Phillips vs Morsy on 23:54 - Jan 17 with 1708 views | itfctilidie |
For me last night highlighted what it has highlighted for most of the season, that we need 3 in the midfield not two. Need one sitting in front of the defence and two box to box. Just feel we don't have enough in there with two,the ball goes forward and comes straight back - ultimately Mckenna knows what we need more than me though |  | | |
| Phillips vs Morsy on 00:01 - Jan 18 with 1650 views | Garv |
| Phillips vs Morsy on 20:30 - Jan 17 by jasondozzell |
You can't compare 20 minutes off the bench into a game where we had lost composure and Brighton were controlling to starting the game.
I really like Phillips. Seems like a lovely bloke, clearly a very very good footballer, very tidy and has shown lots of good things but a bit of an enigma.
Does he affect the game enough? Morsy is so good at driving us on and breaking lines through that signature half turn move. I felt we missed that so much.
Phillips was playing the 6 and Cajuste the 8 last night but I'm not sure about them together. |
You make the point in your first paragraph that so many people seem to be missing about last night. The rest of that post is spot on, too. |  |
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