| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap 18:59 - Jan 24 with 3009 views | Jimmy86 |
The thought had crossed my mind, why not bring in a striker who can play with Delap or Hirst, as opposed to simply be a back up to them and effectively be an upgrade on Al-Hamadi?!
Delap could be played on the right, If necessary, or utilise a system where we could play 2 strikers up front... I know this goes against what Mckenna has done in his time here, but something like a 3 5 2 might be a better system to suit us at times and could pack the midfield too... |  | | |  |
| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 19:20 - Jan 24 with 2828 views | Nutkins_Return |
We don't play that way and McKenna doesn't want to play that way. We've invested incredibly heavily in the role behind the strikers so we know what the intent is.
All that said if chasing a game there is an argument to throw someone on with Delap. Don't think it would happen often.
I think McKenna would want someone to push the others and stake a claim for a starting place. But Delap is that good that is a big challenge. Possibly can't be done this window | |
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| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 19:31 - Jan 24 with 2727 views | homer_123 |
Have we 'ever' played 2 up top under KM.
Secondly, do you think we can afford, in the Jan transfer window, a striker better than Delap? |  |
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| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 19:33 - Jan 24 with 2712 views | Jimmy86 |
| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 19:20 - Jan 24 by Nutkins_Return |
We don't play that way and McKenna doesn't want to play that way. We've invested incredibly heavily in the role behind the strikers so we know what the intent is.
All that said if chasing a game there is an argument to throw someone on with Delap. Don't think it would happen often.
I think McKenna would want someone to push the others and stake a claim for a starting place. But Delap is that good that is a big challenge. Possibly can't be done this window |
To be fair the way we play has got us to this point, but i don't know why we haven't ever considered playing with 2 strikers, in a 3 5 2 for example.. we have the personnel to do it.. wing back wise, got got CB's... 3 in CM, but then we'd be losing wingers out wide... hell, what do i know?! | | | |
| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 19:39 - Jan 24 with 2645 views | Jimmy86 |
| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 19:31 - Jan 24 by homer_123 |
Have we 'ever' played 2 up top under KM.
Secondly, do you think we can afford, in the Jan transfer window, a striker better than Delap? |
To be fair, where in my OP did i state that we had ever played with 2 up front under KMcK? I didn't..
Regarding your 2nd point, i also didn't say we needed to bring in better than Delap... I said we should be bringing in equal to Delap, as opposed to someone to play 2nd fiddle to Delap.. no wonder there is limited number 9s out there, if we are looking for a back up.. let's face it, Hirst never stays fit enough and Delap could well get suspended again.. the drop off between Delap and Hirst to AAH was far too much, the drop off between that and any new signing needs to be less, if a drop off at all... | | | |
| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 19:42 - Jan 24 with 2599 views | Herbivore |
Playing two out and out strikers kind of goes against what every manager in the league is doing really. Nobody plays two up top and hasn't done for many, many years. It's not just a McKenna thing. I take the point that Delap could move to the right but it'd be a brave man to do that given the half a season he's just had and it'd need to be a hell of a number 9 to justify trying it, probably the kind of player who isn't in our reach. |  |
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| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 19:44 - Jan 24 with 2584 views | homer_123 |
| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 19:39 - Jan 24 by Jimmy86 |
To be fair, where in my OP did i state that we had ever played with 2 up front under KMcK? I didn't..
Regarding your 2nd point, i also didn't say we needed to bring in better than Delap... I said we should be bringing in equal to Delap, as opposed to someone to play 2nd fiddle to Delap.. no wonder there is limited number 9s out there, if we are looking for a back up.. let's face it, Hirst never stays fit enough and Delap could well get suspended again.. the drop off between Delap and Hirst to AAH was far too much, the drop off between that and any new signing needs to be less, if a drop off at all... |
Wasn't having a pop fella.
Merely pointing out that KM simply doesn't play with a front 2 - this explains why playing two up top isn't an option.
On your second point - show me a player that is equal to Delap (within our price range and available in January). | |
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| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 19:48 - Jan 24 with 2544 views | Jimmy86 |
| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 19:44 - Jan 24 by homer_123 |
Wasn't having a pop fella.
Merely pointing out that KM simply doesn't play with a front 2 - this explains why playing two up top isn't an option.
On your second point - show me a player that is equal to Delap (within our price range and available in January). |
Ahh, apologies..
Well, what with the talk of us being in for JESUS, if that is even accurate, you'd have to say he is certainly equal, if not better than Delap, as a full Brazil international. | | | |
| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 19:48 - Jan 24 with 2535 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 19:44 - Jan 24 by homer_123 |
Wasn't having a pop fella.
Merely pointing out that KM simply doesn't play with a front 2 - this explains why playing two up top isn't an option.
On your second point - show me a player that is equal to Delap (within our price range and available in January). |
Gyokeres?
Well, as Meatloaf said, two out of three ain't bad. |  |
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| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 19:50 - Jan 24 with 2512 views | homer_123 |
| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 19:48 - Jan 24 by Jimmy86 |
Ahh, apologies..
Well, what with the talk of us being in for JESUS, if that is even accurate, you'd have to say he is certainly equal, if not better than Delap, as a full Brazil international. |
Yes, that is a possibility - though nothing suggests we are close to signing him, merely interest.
You never know though. | |
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| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 19:51 - Jan 24 with 2494 views | FromReuserWithLove |
| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 19:31 - Jan 24 by homer_123 |
Have we 'ever' played 2 up top under KM.
Secondly, do you think we can afford, in the Jan transfer window, a striker better than Delap? |
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| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 19:54 - Jan 24 with 2461 views | Jimmy86 |
| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 19:42 - Jan 24 by Herbivore |
Playing two out and out strikers kind of goes against what every manager in the league is doing really. Nobody plays two up top and hasn't done for many, many years. It's not just a McKenna thing. I take the point that Delap could move to the right but it'd be a brave man to do that given the half a season he's just had and it'd need to be a hell of a number 9 to justify trying it, probably the kind of player who isn't in our reach. |
Very true, last team in remember doing 3 5 2 really well was Wilder with Sheffield United, when they went up the first time around.. they really smashed it..
We definitely need another number 9 though, but let's see what happens in the last few days of the window | | | |
| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 19:58 - Jan 24 with 2410 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 19:48 - Jan 24 by Jimmy86 |
Ahh, apologies..
Well, what with the talk of us being in for JESUS, if that is even accurate, you'd have to say he is certainly equal, if not better than Delap, as a full Brazil international. |
If we sign a player equal to or better than Delap, it would go a long way to keeping us in this league.
They would still rotate as the lone striker and Hirst would become the third option. Keeping them all happy would be McKenna's challenge but I am sure it is one he would relish. | |
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| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 20:04 - Jan 24 with 2346 views | Jimmy86 |
| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 19:58 - Jan 24 by Nthsuffolkblue |
If we sign a player equal to or better than Delap, it would go a long way to keeping us in this league.
They would still rotate as the lone striker and Hirst would become the third option. Keeping them all happy would be McKenna's challenge but I am sure it is one he would relish. |
That's really my point and I'm sure if it could be done then the club would find the funds to be able to do it...
Was just going to suggest Ferguson, but we have Encisco on loan, so that wouldn't be possible... | | | |
| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 20:49 - Jan 24 with 2093 views | Horsham |
I think the perfect solution would be to clone Delap twice. One clone playes right wing like Jon Walters and the other clone is succession plan for when we sell the original Delap.
Someone in the Walters mould would be perfect I think. |  | | |
| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 22:04 - Jan 24 with 1819 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 20:49 - Jan 24 by Horsham |
I think the perfect solution would be to clone Delap twice. One clone playes right wing like Jon Walters and the other clone is succession plan for when we sell the original Delap.
Someone in the Walters mould would be perfect I think. |
The greater priority would be for him to come on for himself.
Would that still count as one of our substitutions? | |
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| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 22:51 - Jan 24 with 1599 views | Swansea_Blue |
| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 19:39 - Jan 24 by Jimmy86 |
To be fair, where in my OP did i state that we had ever played with 2 up front under KMcK? I didn't..
Regarding your 2nd point, i also didn't say we needed to bring in better than Delap... I said we should be bringing in equal to Delap, as opposed to someone to play 2nd fiddle to Delap.. no wonder there is limited number 9s out there, if we are looking for a back up.. let's face it, Hirst never stays fit enough and Delap could well get suspended again.. the drop off between Delap and Hirst to AAH was far too much, the drop off between that and any new signing needs to be less, if a drop off at all... |
Equal to Delap would be a bit of an ask. He’s one of the most talked about young English strikers.
He could still play on the right and Hirst in the centre, but I’ve no idea why we’d do that when he’s making so many waves as a striker. |  |
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| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 00:06 - Jan 25 with 1467 views | Garv |
I don't think Delap can play RW in the PL. Is he technically good enough to do it? |  |
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| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 01:27 - Jan 25 with 1316 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 19:31 - Jan 24 by homer_123 |
Have we 'ever' played 2 up top under KM.
Secondly, do you think we can afford, in the Jan transfer window, a striker better than Delap? |
2nd Half v Preston Away. Ali and Kieffer Moore together caused utter carnage.
Weirdly they hardly ever were paired again. | | | |
| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 01:33 - Jan 25 with 1308 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 22:04 - Jan 24 by Nthsuffolkblue |
The greater priority would be for him to come on for himself.
Would that still count as one of our substitutions? |
At 65 minutes he goes off "injured" and walks to the changing room for treatment. Gives his clone his shirt. Clone runs back out and waits to be waved back into play by the ref.
Sorted! | | | |
| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 09:37 - Jan 25 with 952 views | OldFart71 |
If you haven't got a central midfield that can supply your forwards it's a waste of time getting in another striker. In my opinion in a lot of games there is too much distance between the midfield and Delap. Obviously you need someone of a similar type as Morsy to break up play and pass to the midfield. When Brian Talbot was playing for Town he was a box to box player who ran forever. Johnny Wark ghosted into goal scoring positions from deep. We have nobody of a similar ilk to either of them. The midfield is your engine room and we simply don't have enough legs in that position. | | | |
| All this talk of a striker playing 2nd fiddle to Delap on 09:45 - Jan 25 with 921 views | StokieBlue |
I really don't understand all the posts over the last few days trying to move Delap to the right or drop him for Hirst.
He's not been great on the right previously, just because someone can play somewhere that doesn't mean you should play them there.
Currently he's been reported as the best young English CF yet people want to drop him or move him out of the position where he's getting all the plaudits and where he has contributed to nearly half our goals scored this year.
I find it bizarre and it looks like over-analysis to me.
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