| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash 16:34 - Jan 30 with 10143 views | reusersfreekicks |
He really has no dignity, integrity, humility or compassion.
Blaming it all on democrats hiring of air traffic control people with psychological issues etc
What an awful human being - just despicable.
Just going on and on about diversity and blaming everyone
Probably all lies and rubbish
No sense of the occasion and peoples loss
Using peoples pain and loss to score political points less than 24 hours later
What a stain he is on America
He is deranged - warbling on about the helicopter going up or down
Keeps repeating himself too
F him and everyone who doesn't condemn him [Post edited 30 Jan 16:39]
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| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 18:47 - Jan 30 with 1878 views | Horsham |
| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 18:42 - Jan 30 by reusersfreekicks |
Curious that's your only comment on the subject of this thread |
Kudos though for not going on a free speech rant at least. |  | | |
| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 18:48 - Jan 30 with 1861 views | lowhouseblue |
| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 18:42 - Jan 30 by reusersfreekicks |
Curious that's your only comment on the subject of this thread |
hmmm curious. i don't remember posting every thought i ever have being in the sites t&cs? |  |
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| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 18:49 - Jan 30 with 1848 views | positivity |
| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 18:46 - Jan 30 by lowhouseblue |
you counter free speech with free speech. you out smart them, out argue them and prove them wrong. your views are in the majority on here so it must be working. silencing stuff you disagree with is best left to despots and bullies. |
that's very laudable, but when the speaker uses free speech to vilify disabled people *and* controls the media, how do you speak against him? |  |
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| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 18:54 - Jan 30 with 1822 views | lowhouseblue |
| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 18:49 - Jan 30 by positivity |
that's very laudable, but when the speaker uses free speech to vilify disabled people *and* controls the media, how do you speak against him? |
i think you and others have already demonstrated how. and no one controls more than a tiny fraction of 'the media'. | |
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| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 18:58 - Jan 30 with 1809 views | positivity |
| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 18:54 - Jan 30 by lowhouseblue |
i think you and others have already demonstrated how. and no one controls more than a tiny fraction of 'the media'. |
people on here may reach a few hundreds, trump and musk control access to billions.
if you have no limits to hate speech, there'll be massive negative consequences | |
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| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 18:58 - Jan 30 with 1808 views | EdwardStone |
| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 18:46 - Jan 30 by lowhouseblue |
you counter free speech with free speech. you out smart them, out argue them and prove them wrong. your views are in the majority on here so it must be working. silencing stuff you disagree with is best left to despots and bullies. |
But is that enough?
When the BBC has moist gusset for Farage and invites him multiple times onto Question Time whilst giving cold shoulder to the Greens.... is being a jolly good chap sufficient?
When the Evil Scrotum ( Murdoch) gives Trump and unlimited amount of airtime to spread his singular brand of incoherent nonsense, should we politely allow this to happen?
I have never been an alarmist, but I am beginning to get slightly concerned about the trajectory and direction of travel of UK politics
The band plays on, but the look out sees that the ocean liner is heading straight towards the iceberg |  | | |
| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 19:05 - Jan 30 with 1767 views | lowhouseblue |
| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 18:58 - Jan 30 by EdwardStone |
But is that enough?
When the BBC has moist gusset for Farage and invites him multiple times onto Question Time whilst giving cold shoulder to the Greens.... is being a jolly good chap sufficient?
When the Evil Scrotum ( Murdoch) gives Trump and unlimited amount of airtime to spread his singular brand of incoherent nonsense, should we politely allow this to happen?
I have never been an alarmist, but I am beginning to get slightly concerned about the trajectory and direction of travel of UK politics
The band plays on, but the look out sees that the ocean liner is heading straight towards the iceberg |
abandoning free speech will get us to repression and authoritarianism quicker than anything. abandon human rights and once you are in the minority that will be turned against you. you don't win arguments by silencing people - you simply demonstrate that you think it's ok for those with power to silence people. | |
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| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 19:12 - Jan 30 with 1739 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 19:05 - Jan 30 by lowhouseblue |
abandoning free speech will get us to repression and authoritarianism quicker than anything. abandon human rights and once you are in the minority that will be turned against you. you don't win arguments by silencing people - you simply demonstrate that you think it's ok for those with power to silence people. |
Free speech is great. Free deliberately dishonest hate speech, backed and supported by the most powerful men in the world, and owners of the most prolific media platforms, is the road to fascism. | | | |
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| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 19:14 - Jan 30 with 1713 views | lowhouseblue |
| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 18:58 - Jan 30 by positivity |
people on here may reach a few hundreds, trump and musk control access to billions.
if you have no limits to hate speech, there'll be massive negative consequences |
"if you have no limits to hate speech"
where have i argued for that? i think uk laws which place restrictions on speech are set in a good place. illegal speech should not be tolerated. it is people going beyond the law and seeking to silence views that they personally disagree with which is the issue. | |
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| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 19:17 - Jan 30 with 1690 views | lowhouseblue |
| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 19:12 - Jan 30 by redrickstuhaart |
Free speech is great. Free deliberately dishonest hate speech, backed and supported by the most powerful men in the world, and owners of the most prolific media platforms, is the road to fascism. |
speech outside of the law should not be tolerated. but your personal views on what is 'dishonest' or 'hate' shouldn't be the basis to silence people, anymore than my view, trump's view, or putin's view on the same.
media is very diverse and no one can seriously claim that's trump's nonsense isn't widely challenged. | |
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| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 19:20 - Jan 30 with 1673 views | BlueForYou |
It would appear that the control tower were short staffed & that one person was dealing with both the flight & the helicopter, where there should be one person on each. How do you lot know that Trump isn't right? Shouldn't be speculating before more is known though. Horrible avoidable incident. |  | | |
| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 19:21 - Jan 30 with 1661 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 19:14 - Jan 30 by lowhouseblue |
"if you have no limits to hate speech"
where have i argued for that? i think uk laws which place restrictions on speech are set in a good place. illegal speech should not be tolerated. it is people going beyond the law and seeking to silence views that they personally disagree with which is the issue. |
Our laws are almost irrelevant at this point, because social media is global, and hate speech is being normalised by the president of the US and America's richest men, who happen to control large chunks of media. | | | |
| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 19:26 - Jan 30 with 1593 views | lowhouseblue |
| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 19:21 - Jan 30 by redrickstuhaart |
Our laws are almost irrelevant at this point, because social media is global, and hate speech is being normalised by the president of the US and America's richest men, who happen to control large chunks of media. |
i was originally responding to a post which said that the poster shouldn't have to tolerate views he disagreed with on this very site (i paraphrase). | |
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| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 19:28 - Jan 30 with 1585 views | NthQldITFC |
It occurred to me, watching him verbalise the things that are going through his head, that he's a bit like a senile version of Bruce Forsyth on Play Your Cards Right. Everything is either the "highest level" or the "lowest level" and every so often it all seems to "freeze". |  |
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| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 19:31 - Jan 30 with 1561 views | lowhouseblue |
| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 19:28 - Jan 30 by NthQldITFC |
It occurred to me, watching him verbalise the things that are going through his head, that he's a bit like a senile version of Bruce Forsyth on Play Your Cards Right. Everything is either the "highest level" or the "lowest level" and every so often it all seems to "freeze". |
it reminds me of a game on who's line is in anyway - in which you have to do something in the style of something else. in this case it's be president in the style of a social media troll. | |
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| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 19:33 - Jan 30 with 1540 views | BlueBadger |
| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 17:16 - Jan 30 by tonybied |
You have to worry about what comes next after removing people with disabilities from their jobs, don't you? |
Are we allowed to call it fascism yet? |  |
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| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 19:48 - Jan 30 with 1467 views | Xatticus |
| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 17:21 - Jan 30 by Horsham |
You definitely do. I don’t know too much about Trump’s policy towards welfare but I’d sort of suspect that it’s not generous. So I guess the message to those with disabilities is F off and quietly die somewhere. |
That's pretty much how it has always been in the United States. Disability determinations are made by unqualified individuals who start under the assumption that laziness is the cause of all unemployment. Even if approved, the payments are capped far below the poverty line. | | | |
| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 19:51 - Jan 30 with 1451 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 19:20 - Jan 30 by BlueForYou |
It would appear that the control tower were short staffed & that one person was dealing with both the flight & the helicopter, where there should be one person on each. How do you lot know that Trump isn't right? Shouldn't be speculating before more is known though. Horrible avoidable incident. |
I think you’re missing the points being raised! |  |
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| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 19:53 - Jan 30 with 1435 views | Xatticus |
| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 18:22 - Jan 30 by lowhouseblue |
are there any other human rights that you'd prefer not to tolerate? bit of torture as long as it's mild? occasional servitude as long as it's for the greater good?  |
I agree with your point despite your incessant attempts to tempt me otherwise. | | | |
| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 19:56 - Jan 30 with 1392 views | lowhouseblue |
| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 19:53 - Jan 30 by Xatticus |
I agree with your point despite your incessant attempts to tempt me otherwise. |
clearly i must try harder. | |
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| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 19:57 - Jan 30 with 1380 views | Horsham |
| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 19:33 - Jan 30 by BlueBadger |
Are we allowed to call it fascism yet? |
Well it definitely talks like fascist. | | | |
| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 19:59 - Jan 30 with 1364 views | Bigalhunter |
| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 19:20 - Jan 30 by BlueForYou |
It would appear that the control tower were short staffed & that one person was dealing with both the flight & the helicopter, where there should be one person on each. How do you lot know that Trump isn't right? Shouldn't be speculating before more is known though. Horrible avoidable incident. |
So it’s okay for Trump to scatter gun accusations and blame every minority he despises, but what upsets you is the people who are calling him out for his horrendous tirade?
I grudgingly acknowledge your absolute right to express your opinion but respectfully suggest you’re no better than him.
Feel free to interpret that as approbation. [Post edited 30 Jan 20:02]
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| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 20:04 - Jan 30 with 1312 views | Xatticus |
| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 19:20 - Jan 30 by BlueForYou |
It would appear that the control tower were short staffed & that one person was dealing with both the flight & the helicopter, where there should be one person on each. How do you lot know that Trump isn't right? Shouldn't be speculating before more is known though. Horrible avoidable incident. |
No one knows the precise causes of this at present, but that isn't really what's at issue here. He is making bigoted accusations without having any evidence to support them.
I do not know how DEI initiatives could yield staff shortages considering that they are attempting to expand the list of potential candidates for such positions. I do know that his administration has promised to gut government spending by slashing federal jobs. I do know that they have already tried to force out many federal employees by encouraging their resignations this week. I do know that he eliminated an aviation safety committee just a week ago, just as I know that he did the same with a pandemic response team shortly before the Covid-19 outbreak. | | | |
| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 20:22 - Jan 30 with 1236 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 19:20 - Jan 30 by BlueForYou |
It would appear that the control tower were short staffed & that one person was dealing with both the flight & the helicopter, where there should be one person on each. How do you lot know that Trump isn't right? Shouldn't be speculating before more is known though. Horrible avoidable incident. |
Oh dear | | | |
| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 20:26 - Jan 30 with 1211 views | Bigalhunter |
| Good to hear Trump playing politics with the air crash on 18:46 - Jan 30 by lowhouseblue |
you counter free speech with free speech. you out smart them, out argue them and prove them wrong. your views are in the majority on here so it must be working. silencing stuff you disagree with is best left to despots and bullies. |
When you’ve got a spare minute, can you put your skills to the test and have a stab at ‘out smarting and out arguing’ BlueForYou?
He thinks Trump might be right. Assuming you don’t, it could serve as an excellent reference template for the less tolerant amongst us, in how to deal with early indications of indoctrination in a non-confrontational or non-condascending way.
I’ve had a dab myself, but I’d appreciate you giving my homework a cursory once over. [Post edited 30 Jan 20:31]
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