| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? 20:30 - Feb 1 with 5170 views | MaySixth |
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| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 09:00 - Feb 2 with 1181 views | OldFart71 |
Maybe there's a need to change the way we buy players. I know the culture was very different back in the day but would we under our current analysing of players have signed a George Best or a Rodney Marsh. I very much doubt it. With a player, any player it's not about what they do off the pitch, it's what they do on it. Town have had players who we shouldn't have signed because they were more interested in their off field activities. But many were partial to downing a few lagers or betting on the nags. Apparently when Town were playing under Burley both Finidi Geoerge and Mateo Serini were advised to Burley, not sure whether either were watched. Surely it's not just about watching a video, match of the day etc and looking at statistics if you are using your paymasters money then these players should be tracked over a period of time. |  | | |
| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 10:02 - Feb 2 with 1115 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 08:17 - Feb 2 by Libero |
I wasn’t at the game today as my boys got chicken pox, so I had the luxury of watching it multiple times as it happened, I have since watched highlights also.
Yes, I’ve played games in goal both as a child and an adult - pushing the ball forwards and back into play is a big no no, one of the first things you’re taught as a child *not* to do as a keeper.
Your defence of Muric is admirable but misguided. |
I'm not trying to defend Muric. Some just blame him for everything.
He didn't do well enough first the first. For the second he made an excellent save, but left the ball in the danger zone. The first thing you learn as a keeper, is keep the ball out of the net - this leaves you still in it. The second is, get the ball out of the danger zone - he didn't do that, but it's often difficult after an excellent diving save on the stretch. So, imo the second isn't he howler many are making it out to be, just because there is an agenda to demonise Muric.
I don't have confidence that Walton would have done better, based on the last couple of games - he let in similarly soft shots. This doesn't leave us in a great place, but people should keep their objectivity, and assessment - our defenders need to do better too. | | | |
| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 10:58 - Feb 2 with 1077 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 23:10 - Feb 1 by SuffolkPunchFC |
Having got back from the game and watched the highlights, Muric should have done better with the first goal, but anyone saying the 2nd was a mistake is out to criticise Muric whatever. He was at full stretch, only able to get his hand in front of the ball. It’s pretty much impossible for him to control where the ball goes after that. After that it was down to the closest defenders to clear. |
The MOTD team called it a mistake by Muric, are they out to criticise him whatever? |  |
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| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 10:59 - Feb 2 with 1073 views | PrideOfTheEast |
Criminal if we don’t. | | | |
| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 11:03 - Feb 2 with 1058 views | _clive_baker_ |
I don’t think it’s really worth it now. Stick with what we’ve got and what will be will be for this season. Certainly needs putting right in the summer, but we do have the bones of a squad that should be very dangerous next season. People need to remember that among the disappointment of this year. If we’re always stronger than we were 2 years prior then we’re moving in the right direction. It won’t always be linear. |  | | |
| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 11:08 - Feb 2 with 1042 views | Ryorry |
| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 11:03 - Feb 2 by _clive_baker_ |
I don’t think it’s really worth it now. Stick with what we’ve got and what will be will be for this season. Certainly needs putting right in the summer, but we do have the bones of a squad that should be very dangerous next season. People need to remember that among the disappointment of this year. If we’re always stronger than we were 2 years prior then we’re moving in the right direction. It won’t always be linear. |
Have to disagree with you on not signing another keeper now - we’re currently only one injury away from having no substitute keeper on the bench.
Do the Prem rules still allow the signing of an emergency keeper if clubs are down to one? |  |
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| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 11:09 - Feb 2 with 1031 views | FrankMarshall |
Slicker isn't ready for the Premiership and Muric is too inconsistent.
Another GK is an absolute must before the window closes. |  |
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| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 11:09 - Feb 2 with 1030 views | nrb1985 |
| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 11:03 - Feb 2 by _clive_baker_ |
I don’t think it’s really worth it now. Stick with what we’ve got and what will be will be for this season. Certainly needs putting right in the summer, but we do have the bones of a squad that should be very dangerous next season. People need to remember that among the disappointment of this year. If we’re always stronger than we were 2 years prior then we’re moving in the right direction. It won’t always be linear. |
Reluctantly arrived at this conclusion too.
While I think throwing Slicker in yesterday was too much of a risk. The bigger risk now would be to persist with Muric for these games. We are relegated if he has any run of games in the team now but with Slicker there must be a very slim chance he surprises to the upside.
Either way, odds hugely against after yesterday and I don’t see the point of scrambling to sign a GK now, especially as the selling club will know we are desperate. | | | |
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| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 11:26 - Feb 2 with 998 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 11:09 - Feb 2 by FrankMarshall |
Slicker isn't ready for the Premiership and Muric is too inconsistent.
Another GK is an absolute must before the window closes. |
How much of Slicker have you seen to make that assessment? | |
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| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 11:51 - Feb 2 with 974 views | Jrm_72 |
My late night rumination was if only Celtic were out the Champions League, would've loved us going to get Kasper Schmeichel... | | | |
| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 12:13 - Feb 2 with 933 views | Ryorry |
| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 11:09 - Feb 2 by nrb1985 |
Reluctantly arrived at this conclusion too.
While I think throwing Slicker in yesterday was too much of a risk. The bigger risk now would be to persist with Muric for these games. We are relegated if he has any run of games in the team now but with Slicker there must be a very slim chance he surprises to the upside.
Either way, odds hugely against after yesterday and I don’t see the point of scrambling to sign a GK now, especially as the selling club will know we are desperate. |
We *have* to sign a keeper now surely - if either Slicker or Muric gets injured, what do we do - give Jacob Greaves some GK coaching?! | |
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| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 12:22 - Feb 2 with 919 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 22:34 - Feb 1 by Chocorange |
We need to!
Muric confidence is shot , the players and fans have lost faith in him.
Walton is out for weeks. Slicker unlikely to be ready for this level.
Keep Muric in and we go down , simple as that.
Admit the mistake in the summer , go to Burnley and get Hladky back here , even if we have to pay a small fee.
We still have all of last seasons defenders ( bar fridge) who all know Hladky’s game and strengths and weaknesses .
Could do a whole lot worse and wouldn’t cost the earth. |
It was a total misjudgment and balls up the way we let Hladky go. It was, I'm sure, simply because his contract was up, and Walton's wasn't. Hladky 100% deserved a shot in the Prem, perhaps not as the outright #1, but to compete with a new keeper. Walton is the one that should have been sold. Hladky is better than Walton, and the way we are under pressure, we need a keeper who can take the ball under pressure and remain calm. There is no better keeper for that than Vaz. The recruitment team just got that all wrong, and we have 2 keepers who are worse than the one we had in the Championship. |  |
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| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 12:33 - Feb 2 with 899 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 11:08 - Feb 2 by Ryorry |
Have to disagree with you on not signing another keeper now - we’re currently only one injury away from having no substitute keeper on the bench.
Do the Prem rules still allow the signing of an emergency keeper if clubs are down to one? |
Depends who is available I guess and how long Walton is sidelined for. We’ve got 3 league games between now and 8th March, so he might be in contention for the final 10 games or so depending on the severity of his strain. Squad places are at a premium too, any senior arrival would occupy one, on top of the 3 our current keepers are taking up. I can’t see us dropping 8 figures on a keeper of premier league quality given we’re looking likely to be a few months from relegation.
I wouldn’t be at all surprised if we go with what we’ve got now. | | | |
| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 12:39 - Feb 2 with 871 views | Ryorry |
| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 12:22 - Feb 2 by LegendofthePhoenix |
It was a total misjudgment and balls up the way we let Hladky go. It was, I'm sure, simply because his contract was up, and Walton's wasn't. Hladky 100% deserved a shot in the Prem, perhaps not as the outright #1, but to compete with a new keeper. Walton is the one that should have been sold. Hladky is better than Walton, and the way we are under pressure, we need a keeper who can take the ball under pressure and remain calm. There is no better keeper for that than Vaz. The recruitment team just got that all wrong, and we have 2 keepers who are worse than the one we had in the Championship. |
Agree. I've not criticised the current recruitment team before, but messing up over Hladky was a huge mistake.
That was a situation entirely within their control. Getting a 9 in is one that hasn't been, and I believe they've been working their backsides off behind the scenes - not getting one (yet) hasn't been for their lack of trying, they can't just wave a magic wand to get one through the door (to answer others on recruitment generally, not your point I know). | |
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| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 12:44 - Feb 2 with 856 views | Ryorry |
| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 12:33 - Feb 2 by _clive_baker_ |
Depends who is available I guess and how long Walton is sidelined for. We’ve got 3 league games between now and 8th March, so he might be in contention for the final 10 games or so depending on the severity of his strain. Squad places are at a premium too, any senior arrival would occupy one, on top of the 3 our current keepers are taking up. I can’t see us dropping 8 figures on a keeper of premier league quality given we’re looking likely to be a few months from relegation.
I wouldn’t be at all surprised if we go with what we’ve got now. |
Might as well de-register Wes, as he's out for the season anyway.
Simply mustn't gamble on Walts recovery or Slicks & Muric remaining uninjured for the next 5 weeks.
Guess I'll have to google Prem emergency keeper loan rules as no-one's yet answered my question re that! | |
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| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 13:03 - Feb 2 with 819 views | nrb1985 |
| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 12:13 - Feb 2 by Ryorry |
We *have* to sign a keeper now surely - if either Slicker or Muric gets injured, what do we do - give Jacob Greaves some GK coaching?! |
I’ll refrain from giving the obvious answer that Greaves could hardly do worse…
If that scenario happened I believe there’s an emergency loan option for GKs? Somebody will I’m sure correct me if I’m wrong. | | | |
| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 13:12 - Feb 2 with 789 views | Libero |
| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 10:02 - Feb 2 by SuffolkPunchFC |
I'm not trying to defend Muric. Some just blame him for everything.
He didn't do well enough first the first. For the second he made an excellent save, but left the ball in the danger zone. The first thing you learn as a keeper, is keep the ball out of the net - this leaves you still in it. The second is, get the ball out of the danger zone - he didn't do that, but it's often difficult after an excellent diving save on the stretch. So, imo the second isn't he howler many are making it out to be, just because there is an agenda to demonise Muric.
I don't have confidence that Walton would have done better, based on the last couple of games - he let in similarly soft shots. This doesn't leave us in a great place, but people should keep their objectivity, and assessment - our defenders need to do better too. |
All I’m ‘blaming’ him for are his own costly continuous and calamitous errors. [Post edited 2 Feb 14:12]
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| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 13:35 - Feb 2 with 746 views | StNeotsBlue |
| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 00:02 - Feb 2 by SuffolkPunchFC |
Have you watched it on replay, or only judged it live at the game? Have you played as a keeper?
He was at full stretch, and only just manages to get his hand in front of the ball. With his fingers outstretched like that, explain to me how he can control what the ball does? He’d need to be a magician or have telekinetic powers. |
The reason he was at full stretch is because he was poorly positioned in the first place. |  | | |
| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 13:40 - Feb 2 with 720 views | bournemouthblue |
| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 02:00 - Feb 2 by SaffronWaldenBlues |
We’re already relegated, there’s no way Burnley are going to let us buy their second choice keeper this late in the.
Mistakes been made. |
It would be a mistake to assume Hladky is the answer either, yes he's good at playing out but purely from a keeping perspective, I'd doubt whether he is PL level
We mad a massive mistake not getting a solid keeper like Ramsdale as an example |  |
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| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 14:12 - Feb 2 with 681 views | jaykay |
havent joined in the debate muric in the past but i think he liable for a bit mistake in games and the defence don't trust him.
where i lost confidence with him was bentford away the 10 men were putting their bodies on the line and everyone was giving 110% . delap equalised with minutes to go and then deep into injury time ,with no fault of any of the out players he has a brain fart and its 4. 3 to bentford. that must have been soul destroying for those who had giving everything.
if we had drew that day i think we would have not been in this mess
so yes try and get another goalie in or give slicker a chance |  |
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| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 17:25 - Feb 2 with 562 views | Horsham |
| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 08:21 - Feb 2 by LA_Tractor_Boy |
If you had asked me before yesterday I would have said no chance.
But with Walton injured, KMc knows he's got a serious goalkeeping problem.
I think one of the issues is, do the owners think we have any chance of staying up? If not, then we're better off addressing the issue in the summer. |
Don’t think it’s so much a case of if the owners think we have a chance or not, they might be willing to put £30m down for a keeper but at the end of the day a £30m keeper isn’t going to be attracted to a team looking likely to go down. |  | | |
| Do we get a goalkeeper in before the window closes? on 17:40 - Feb 2 with 521 views | madmouse1959 |
Slicker in and see how it goes.
Townsend in as left back would be my choice. |  |
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