| Muric 08:05 - Feb 2 with 2277 views | bsw72 |
It’s important that when we go down the fans can all blame Muric, and absolve the rest of the team of blame for poor finishing, poor marking and giving the ball away regularly.
The fact that everyone can clearly call out the points he has cost is great, makes it so much better to be able to clearly identify that he has been responsible for our demise.
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| Muric on 08:08 - Feb 2 with 2242 views | IP9 |
It was quite incredible seeing the clamour for Muric to start again from a lot of posters on here. Never has one mans reputation improved so much from not playing. He is an absolutely calamity of a goalkeeper, showed it on his debut at City and has not improved one bit since. Wonder how the Muric in posters are feeling now? |  | | |
| Muric on 08:11 - Feb 2 with 2203 views | WeirdFishes |
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| Muric on 08:13 - Feb 2 with 2178 views | bazza |
We were poor at the back, poor in midfield and toothless upfront, Southampton bullied us all over the pitch, and the way the crowd jumped on muric was a disgrace. |  | | |
| Muric on 08:21 - Feb 2 with 2115 views | Bluecasp |
| Muric on 08:13 - Feb 2 by bazza |
We were poor at the back, poor in midfield and toothless upfront, Southampton bullied us all over the pitch, and the way the crowd jumped on muric was a disgrace. |
And yet if he makes 2 comfortable saves we win one nil. | | | |
| Muric on 08:24 - Feb 2 with 2065 views | bazza |
| Muric on 08:21 - Feb 2 by Bluecasp |
And yet if he makes 2 comfortable saves we win one nil. |
I’m not sure the second was a comfortable save, first one was a shocker. But again, look at the defending leading up to both Equally as shocking. I’m not in denial about muric, but he’s not the only one to blame because we lost, and the way the crowd jumped all over it just heaped the pressure on. | | | |
| Muric on 08:26 - Feb 2 with 2044 views | bsw72 |
| Muric on 08:21 - Feb 2 by Bluecasp |
And yet if he makes 2 comfortable saves we win one nil. |
Or the defence win their challenges, or midfield pick up the runners etc etc both situations were 100% avoidable long before it came down to Muric.
Keepers are the easy target so the fans can attribute our position down to them. | | | |
| Muric on 08:32 - Feb 2 with 1931 views | MK1 |
| Muric on 08:26 - Feb 2 by bsw72 |
Or the defence win their challenges, or midfield pick up the runners etc etc both situations were 100% avoidable long before it came down to Muric.
Keepers are the easy target so the fans can attribute our position down to them. |
It was a howler though. Keepers will always be judged on their mistakes, not just Muric. He isn't the answer. |  |
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| Muric on 08:35 - Feb 2 with 1906 views | bsw72 |
| Muric on 08:32 - Feb 2 by MK1 |
It was a howler though. Keepers will always be judged on their mistakes, not just Muric. He isn't the answer. |
What's the question - why are we in a relegation position? | | | |
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| Muric on 09:02 - Feb 2 with 1773 views | ITFC_Forever |
Two poor moments from him and he’ll rightly get the majority of the blame.
But for the first one we should stop the ball getting in the box, and then mark properly - Aribo had far too much space.
And the second one again, don’t let the Saints player run that far or get the ball in and there’s no problem. |  |
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| Muric on 11:27 - Feb 2 with 1569 views | Steve_M |
| Muric on 09:02 - Feb 2 by ITFC_Forever |
Two poor moments from him and he’ll rightly get the majority of the blame.
But for the first one we should stop the ball getting in the box, and then mark properly - Aribo had far too much space.
And the second one again, don’t let the Saints player run that far or get the ball in and there’s no problem. |
Yep, both goals were really poor even before the ball got anywhere near Muric.
And our defending wasn't even the worst aspect of our play yesterday. |  |
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| Muric on 11:35 - Feb 2 with 1516 views | pointofblue |
| Muric on 11:27 - Feb 2 by Steve_M |
Yep, both goals were really poor even before the ball got anywhere near Muric.
And our defending wasn't even the worst aspect of our play yesterday. |
The midfield has been an issue through McKenna's time here. Even in League One we were turned around and played through far too quickly by some of the better teams. I'm not sure why Godfrey was brought in, unless Woolfenden goes out on loan, and we didn't focus on a central midfielder instead. | |
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| Muric on 11:38 - Feb 2 with 1483 views | CrockerITFC |
It's Muric's fault we didn't score 3 goals yesterday, don't you know!
Muric had zero shots on target all game...boooo! |  | | |
| Muric on 11:39 - Feb 2 with 1475 views | CrockerITFC |
| Muric on 11:35 - Feb 2 by pointofblue |
The midfield has been an issue through McKenna's time here. Even in League One we were turned around and played through far too quickly by some of the better teams. I'm not sure why Godfrey was brought in, unless Woolfenden goes out on loan, and we didn't focus on a central midfielder instead. |
Maybe we should stick Godfrey in the middle | | | |
| Muric on 11:42 - Feb 2 with 1450 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Muric on 08:21 - Feb 2 by Bluecasp |
And yet if he makes 2 comfortable saves we win one nil. |
Was the second one so bad, looked like a decent save to me |  | | |
| Muric on 11:43 - Feb 2 with 1441 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Muric on 11:35 - Feb 2 by pointofblue |
The midfield has been an issue through McKenna's time here. Even in League One we were turned around and played through far too quickly by some of the better teams. I'm not sure why Godfrey was brought in, unless Woolfenden goes out on loan, and we didn't focus on a central midfielder instead. |
Indeed, focused on the wrong area imo | | | |
| Muric on 11:45 - Feb 2 with 1430 views | stonojnr |
| Muric on 11:38 - Feb 2 by CrockerITFC |
It's Muric's fault we didn't score 3 goals yesterday, don't you know!
Muric had zero shots on target all game...boooo! |
I actually heard some shout from the stand that Muric should have taken a throw in, in injury time, to speed the game up !?!? | | | |
| Muric on 11:48 - Feb 2 with 1402 views | stonojnr |
| Muric on 11:42 - Feb 2 by reusersfreekicks |
Was the second one so bad, looked like a decent save to me |
the second one, he actually makes a really good save first off, got down quickly for it as it was low and definitely going on, unfortunately it rebounds straight back to Southampton then for a mere tap in, because he cant reset & pull off a double save that quickly.
of course all the rest of our players were standing around like statues looking at the ball, ball watching again, but the crowd blames the keeper for not being superhuman. | | | |
| Muric on 11:52 - Feb 2 with 1382 views | waveneyblue |
| Muric on 11:42 - Feb 2 by reusersfreekicks |
Was the second one so bad, looked like a decent save to me |
I've watched it several times. He would do incredibly well to save that and push it out of danger. The first was pretty poor though.
I said it on a previous post, a large section of the fanbase have written him off, end of. They love a target and he's definitely the Number One. I will be amazed if he recovers from this. |  | | |
| Muric on 12:00 - Feb 2 with 1327 views | stonojnr |
| Muric on 08:26 - Feb 2 by bsw72 |
Or the defence win their challenges, or midfield pick up the runners etc etc both situations were 100% avoidable long before it came down to Muric.
Keepers are the easy target so the fans can attribute our position down to them. |
its so reminiscent of Sereni too, 2000/01 Wright was hailed as the better keeper, though he didnt really have much to do in most games as the midfield/attack and defence were doing their jobs properly, pulls off a couple of shots and we're winning games.
come 2001/02 we get Sereni, who wasnt the greatest keeper in the world, but either teams had worked us out by then, or we werent clearing our lines properly and sinking in midfield, but we were constantly under pressure defence and the goals start leaking in and were losing games, and everyone blamed the keeper.
and its like there was that Bolton game at home Ricketts ran nearly the whole length of the pitch, not a single tackle or challenge went in on him, the team parted like the red sea in front of him, he scores, and people blamed the keeper for not saving it, and its like wait a mo no-one on our team put a challenge in, no one dealt with the threat, and your blaming the keeper for this.
same now, how many challenges were made before either Southampton goal ? how many players dealt with the obvious threats developing ? but its the goalies fault right because hes meant to stop everything going in the net.
and we'll ignore that chance in the first half that was more difficult to do what we did with 3 players somehow not score in a very similar position to Southamptons 2nd goal, when it was easier just to put it in the net.
that goes in its 2-1. different game
and they claim the wisdom of crowds is smart. but whatever, fans always have their favourites and they always have the one player they ball out for no reason, | | | |
| Muric on 12:06 - Feb 2 with 1289 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Muric on 08:24 - Feb 2 by bazza |
I’m not sure the second was a comfortable save, first one was a shocker. But again, look at the defending leading up to both Equally as shocking. I’m not in denial about muric, but he’s not the only one to blame because we lost, and the way the crowd jumped all over it just heaped the pressure on. |
It wasn't a comfortable save but it was at his near post and was made difficult by his positioning (in my inexpert opinion).
The truth is that fan expectation seems to have gone from a relegation battle before the start of the season to staying up comfortably now. That suggests the team collectively are getting much right. If Muric made fewer errors, we would have more points. We would then be out of the relegation zone. Yes, if we had another Delap, Hirst stayed fit, Hutchinson was more consistent, Phillips was the player of his Leeds days, etc, etc, we would also be fine but I can get why Muric is taking a lot of heat. |  |
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| Muric on 12:14 - Feb 2 with 1262 views | pointofblue |
| Muric on 12:06 - Feb 2 by Nthsuffolkblue |
It wasn't a comfortable save but it was at his near post and was made difficult by his positioning (in my inexpert opinion).
The truth is that fan expectation seems to have gone from a relegation battle before the start of the season to staying up comfortably now. That suggests the team collectively are getting much right. If Muric made fewer errors, we would have more points. We would then be out of the relegation zone. Yes, if we had another Delap, Hirst stayed fit, Hutchinson was more consistent, Phillips was the player of his Leeds days, etc, etc, we would also be fine but I can get why Muric is taking a lot of heat. |
I think fans expectations changed early in the season when fought well against Liverpool, showed ourselves equal to Fulham, scrapped for a point at Brighton and bettered Villa. Then, after the poor performances against West Ham and Everton, we again went close at Brentford, beat Spurs, should have beaten Leicester, and that game against Manchester United.
After the United game I'm think we went on our longest run of poor performances - the win at Wolves was fortunate to say the least - until we switched to three at the back and again we looked like we had something going until the final 30 v Brighton. McKenna then decided to change personnel against City and looked limp again there and at Anfield, albeit against two of the best teams in the world. Yesterday we were ok, but it was a Championship standard game.
We've showed ability all season to be in the fight but have lost fine margins and have, IMO, tinkered too much when we haven't needed to with the starting line up. [Post edited 2 Feb 12:15]
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| Muric on 13:55 - Feb 2 with 1148 views | RichOBlue |
| Muric on 11:48 - Feb 2 by stonojnr |
the second one, he actually makes a really good save first off, got down quickly for it as it was low and definitely going on, unfortunately it rebounds straight back to Southampton then for a mere tap in, because he cant reset & pull off a double save that quickly.
of course all the rest of our players were standing around like statues looking at the ball, ball watching again, but the crowd blames the keeper for not being superhuman. |
He gets a big enough hand to either push it away or pull it into his body that’s what they practice all week on he puts it into the worst area possible |  |
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| Muric on 14:22 - Feb 2 with 1071 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| Muric on 08:21 - Feb 2 by Bluecasp |
And yet if he makes 2 comfortable saves we win one nil. |
This ....
Yesterday he had a 'goals prevented' of -1.42. Ramsdale was at 0.36.
Forget about everything else, that is the difference between winning and losing.
I don't want to pile on but threads like this are ridiculous. It's nowhere near close to being good enough and whilst I know it's the team, the simple stats don't lie.
The shots we are conceding are no different to other teams, we are just conceding when a competent keeper would keep them out. | | | |
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