| What is wrong with people? 09:20 - Feb 10 with 8193 views | Fixed_It |
One of my wife's friends is a hairdresser, and has a collection tin for the RNLI in her salon. Apparently, she's had a couple of clients refuse to make a donation 'because they save immigrants crossing the channel'. Has society really come to this?! |  |
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| What is wrong with people? on 08:41 - Feb 11 with 1185 views | textbackup |
| What is wrong with people? on 08:25 - Feb 11 by NedPlimpton |
Even if they've apparently made their views public?
So you can honestly tell me you've never judged anyone who has made their views public? |
Mate, I could sit here and tell you that my wife’s friend owns a salon and her RNLI tin is overflowing with money after people put so much in, and apparently said we must save every person at risk in the small boats.
Then it would be even.
As it is, there is absolutely nothing to go off apart from ‘apparently’ so all that’s done is waste taps on a keyboard and internet space. And seemingly got a few people irate at absolutely nobody in particular, well apart from me.
The bloody racist charity tins hey. |  |
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| What is wrong with people? on 09:15 - Feb 11 with 1116 views | StokieBlue |
| What is wrong with people? on 08:41 - Feb 11 by textbackup |
Mate, I could sit here and tell you that my wife’s friend owns a salon and her RNLI tin is overflowing with money after people put so much in, and apparently said we must save every person at risk in the small boats.
Then it would be even.
As it is, there is absolutely nothing to go off apart from ‘apparently’ so all that’s done is waste taps on a keyboard and internet space. And seemingly got a few people irate at absolutely nobody in particular, well apart from me.
The bloody racist charity tins hey. |
You don't normally have such a high threshold regarding the quality of evidence.
I look forward to you applying this new found rigour in your future debates.
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| What is wrong with people? on 09:20 - Feb 11 with 1092 views | reusersfreekicks |
| What is wrong with people? on 08:41 - Feb 11 by textbackup |
Mate, I could sit here and tell you that my wife’s friend owns a salon and her RNLI tin is overflowing with money after people put so much in, and apparently said we must save every person at risk in the small boats.
Then it would be even.
As it is, there is absolutely nothing to go off apart from ‘apparently’ so all that’s done is waste taps on a keyboard and internet space. And seemingly got a few people irate at absolutely nobody in particular, well apart from me.
The bloody racist charity tins hey. |
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| What is wrong with people? on 09:22 - Feb 11 with 1083 views | textbackup |
| What is wrong with people? on 09:15 - Feb 11 by StokieBlue |
You don't normally have such a high threshold regarding the quality of evidence.
I look forward to you applying this new found rigour in your future debates.
SB |
Glad I could give you something to look forward to
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| What is wrong with people? on 09:28 - Feb 11 with 1054 views | PassionNotAnger |
| What is wrong with people? on 22:14 - Feb 10 by textbackup |
They’ve ’apparently’ said that, as the OP states.
-3 downvotes for stating a fact 😂😂😂😂
Didn’t have a couple of you down as being so naive to be led down the garden path by an ‘apparent’ comment. Yet here we are. [Post edited 11 Feb 8:34]
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That's being incredibly disingenuous at best.
You're first contribution on this thread was:
"Its a charity, people can donate to who they wish to donate to, without being called out for their reasons?"
You didn't raise your concern at that point on the "supposedly" element - but seemingly took the OP at face value and only questioned those who were "calling out" the non-contributor to the charity.
Having then got a fair amount of criticism/downvotes you subsequently brought in the "supposedly" in an apparent attempt to call into question the legitimacy of the post and have then continued to use this to get away from your original two-footed lunge into defending racists (NOTE - This part is entirely my supposition of the people who would behave/speak in the way quoted by the OP and NOT suggesting or implying anything else)
Even taking your deflection based on the supposedly reference it was pretty clear to me that it was used to reflect it was a story relayed to the OP and he wasn't questioning it's accuracy.
So that's why I "piled-in" with the downvotes - because your contribution looked to be defending/deflecting those people who I consider to be Racists and NOT because I believed you have concerns over the accuracy of the post. [Post edited 11 Feb 9:29]
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| What is wrong with people? on 10:40 - Feb 11 with 958 views | DJR |
| What is wrong with people? on 11:56 - Feb 10 by Churchman |
It has and it disgusts me. What do people expect the RNLI to do?
I actually have ancestors who were lifeboatmen all the way back to the 19c and the earliest days of Beachmen. Two of them are remembered on the Caister memorial for those lost in the 1901 Beauchamp disaster.
I will continue to support the RNLI come what may. |
Two of my ancestors died at sea in separate incidents in the Shetlands at a time when the RNLI didn't exist.
These days they might have been rescued, so deliberately choosing not to support the RNLI seems to me to be a very selfish thing to do given the RNLI operate throughout the UK. |  | | |
| What is wrong with people? on 11:37 - Feb 11 with 851 views | Churchman |
| What is wrong with people? on 10:40 - Feb 11 by DJR |
Two of my ancestors died at sea in separate incidents in the Shetlands at a time when the RNLI didn't exist.
These days they might have been rescued, so deliberately choosing not to support the RNLI seems to me to be a very selfish thing to do given the RNLI operate throughout the UK. |
I’ve been round a few of the lifeboat houses and they are fascinating and moving at the same time. The bravery of the men was and is astonishing.
From Wiki re the 1901 Caister lifeboat disaster ‘Asked at the inquest to their deaths why the crew had persisted in the rescue, retired coxswain James Haylett said, "They would never give up the ship. If they had to keep at it 'til now, they would have sailed about until daylight to help her. Going back is against the rules when we see distress signals like that."
This response was translated by journalists to become the famous phrase "Caister men never turn back"; "Never Turn Back" was later to become a motto of the RNLI.’
My mum remembers seeing her grandad’s gear hanging on the door - he’d worked at sea, including the herring fleets, and understood the dangers and coming from a traditional ‘lifeboating family’ I don’t think he gave it much thought - though my mums memories were from when she was a child.
Bravery above and beyond. The origins are not quite so noble. Given the laws of salvage ‘Beachmen’ lived as the name suggests to get a living from wrecks in buildings like boat-houses immortalised by Dickens in David Copperfield. Back in time, they’d go out to wrecked ships and offer rescue to passengers for a fee. No fee - make your own arrangements! That somewhat less than ethical approach evolved in the early 19c to what we know today, the RNLI being formed in 1824.
https://rnli.org/about-us/our-history/timeline/1824-our-foundation
Leaving people to drown today is not an option for the RNLI, whatever cretins like Farage might think. [Post edited 11 Feb 11:43]
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| What is wrong with people? on 17:54 - Feb 11 with 761 views | BrentwoodBlagger2 |
I donate to two charities of my choice, which does not include RNLI, but that doesn't make me a racist or anything similar. Charities are a personal choice and no one should be criticised who they do or do not support for whatever reason. I hate, with vengeance, the 'chuggers' who stop you in the street and attempt to guilt trip you into handing over money to them, by blocking your path and engaging you. | | | |
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| What is wrong with people? on 17:58 - Feb 11 with 758 views | mrshallisfit |
Really! I know we live in a democracy but there are some in society that could benefit from a good dose of lethal injection. | | | |
| What is wrong with people? on 18:43 - Feb 11 with 710 views | J2BLUE |
| What is wrong with people? on 17:54 - Feb 11 by BrentwoodBlagger2 |
I donate to two charities of my choice, which does not include RNLI, but that doesn't make me a racist or anything similar. Charities are a personal choice and no one should be criticised who they do or do not support for whatever reason. I hate, with vengeance, the 'chuggers' who stop you in the street and attempt to guilt trip you into handing over money to them, by blocking your path and engaging you. |
Responding to a point no one has made there. |  |
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| What is wrong with people? on 19:02 - Feb 11 with 676 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| What is wrong with people? on 17:54 - Feb 11 by BrentwoodBlagger2 |
I donate to two charities of my choice, which does not include RNLI, but that doesn't make me a racist or anything similar. Charities are a personal choice and no one should be criticised who they do or do not support for whatever reason. I hate, with vengeance, the 'chuggers' who stop you in the street and attempt to guilt trip you into handing over money to them, by blocking your path and engaging you. |
And that is perfectly fine. I also do not give regularly to the RNLI. However, that view is a million miles away from "refusing to make a donation 'because they save immigrants crossing the channel'." |  |
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| What is wrong with people? on 19:36 - Feb 11 with 625 views | mrshallisfit |
| What is wrong with people? on 12:35 - Feb 10 by NedPlimpton |
Correct, but that's obviously not the discussion that's being had here
I'm sure you can see that, so i'm not too sure what relevance your point has? |
Are you sure he can see that? Are you sure? | | | |
| What is wrong with people? on 19:40 - Feb 11 with 616 views | Churchman |
| What is wrong with people? on 17:54 - Feb 11 by BrentwoodBlagger2 |
I donate to two charities of my choice, which does not include RNLI, but that doesn't make me a racist or anything similar. Charities are a personal choice and no one should be criticised who they do or do not support for whatever reason. I hate, with vengeance, the 'chuggers' who stop you in the street and attempt to guilt trip you into handing over money to them, by blocking your path and engaging you. |
I can’t disagree. Donation is just that. You choose if and where to put your money.
The chuggers? Do one. But what truly grinds my gears is that a lot of these things, including RNLI, should be funded properly by government. They’re important and with a £3.5tn economy, the money is there. | | | |
| What is wrong with people? on 19:43 - Feb 11 with 606 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| What is wrong with people? on 19:40 - Feb 11 by Churchman |
I can’t disagree. Donation is just that. You choose if and where to put your money.
The chuggers? Do one. But what truly grinds my gears is that a lot of these things, including RNLI, should be funded properly by government. They’re important and with a £3.5tn economy, the money is there. |
Use our taxes to save the lives of immigrants?
Whatever next? You will be asking the richest landowners to pay inheritance tax when they die to cover the cost of it!
What is the world coming to? | |
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| What is wrong with people? on 21:01 - Feb 11 with 554 views | GeoffSentence |
| What is wrong with people? on 12:08 - Feb 10 by textbackup |
Its a charity, people can donate to who they wish to donate to, without being called out for their reasons? |
it's a collection tin, unless the owner was waving it under their nose soliciting a donation there would be no need to volunteer acreason. |  |
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