| JP 19:08 - Mar 15 with 3806 views | textbackup |
A collective of professionals sat down and made Philogene a target, and paid £22m for him.
And continues to start games, despite being consistently weak and poor.
Am I missing something with him? I hope so, and I hope someone can point it out to me. |  |
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| JP on 19:09 - Mar 15 with 3132 views | Kieran_Knows |
Another one who seems to be struggling with the jump in quality, at a time when we needed them to hit the ground running. |  |
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| JP on 19:09 - Mar 15 with 3111 views | J2BLUE |
Was very good in the Championship and is an England U21 so hopefully there is a good base to build on and the fee will eventually seem cheap.
And yes, that's based more on hope at this point but he deserves a fair chance. |  |
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| JP on 19:11 - Mar 15 with 3078 views | JakeITFC |
Think there is a player there, just not coming off for him atm. |  | | |
| JP on 19:13 - Mar 15 with 3054 views | textbackup |
| JP on 19:09 - Mar 15 by Kieran_Knows |
Another one who seems to be struggling with the jump in quality, at a time when we needed them to hit the ground running. |
You’d like to think that IF we were to bounce straight back up that everyone would sit down and go over what/who not to buy for a decent crack at staying up.
As this lot just don’t have the qualities to be even close to keeping us up. | |
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| He's a "Championship All-Star". (n/t) on 19:13 - Mar 15 with 3039 views | Bloots |
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| JP on 19:14 - Mar 15 with 3019 views | blueoutlook |
Clarke,JP, Hutch are all good championships players but lm not sure any of them will step up to the premier league . They physically haven’t got it. Too slight. So, even if they did well for us next season and we got promoted again, they really aren’t the future in the premiership. |  | | |
| JP on 19:15 - Mar 15 with 3004 views | vapour_trail |
To make matters worse, the warning signs were there from his time at Villa, where Emery clearly didn’t fancy him, and the club concluded they’d made a mistake in the summer.
Bet they couldn’t believe their luck when we more than covered their losses. |  |
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| He's a "Championship All-Star". (n/t) on 19:19 - Mar 15 with 2905 views | textbackup |
| He's a "Championship All-Star". (n/t) on 19:13 - Mar 15 by Bloots |
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Looks like one of the NBA all stars that had their talent stolen by the aliens on Space Jam | |
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| He's a "Championship All-Star". (n/t) on 19:20 - Mar 15 with 2885 views | J2BLUE |
| He's a "Championship All-Star". (n/t) on 19:19 - Mar 15 by textbackup |
Looks like one of the NBA all stars that had their talent stolen by the aliens on Space Jam |
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| He's a "Championship All-Star". (n/t) on 19:21 - Mar 15 with 2848 views | textbackup |
| He's a "Championship All-Star". (n/t) on 19:20 - Mar 15 by J2BLUE |
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| JP on 19:22 - Mar 15 with 2852 views | RegencyBlue |
He’s not pulling up any trees for sure.
Having said that he’s being played out of position in a team struggling to avoid relegation and has only been here since January. Too early to be writing him off just yet. |  | | |
| JP on 19:25 - Mar 15 with 2765 views | mellowblue |
| JP on 19:14 - Mar 15 by blueoutlook |
Clarke,JP, Hutch are all good championships players but lm not sure any of them will step up to the premier league . They physically haven’t got it. Too slight. So, even if they did well for us next season and we got promoted again, they really aren’t the future in the premiership. |
Physicality is so important now. All these guys are athletes. Even someone like Phillips lacks the physicality now for the Premier, yet he was more than adequate a few years ago. We had not learnt the lesson when we went back in for Philogene. A mistake I think. How many wingers/10s do we need. |  | | |
| JP on 19:25 - Mar 15 with 2766 views | textbackup |
| JP on 19:22 - Mar 15 by RegencyBlue |
He’s not pulling up any trees for sure.
Having said that he’s being played out of position in a team struggling to avoid relegation and has only been here since January. Too early to be writing him off just yet. |
Yes of course, unfair to expect him to be our saviour when he’s clearly not ready for the PL.
Begs the question, when in a battle to stay up, why did the powers that be opt for that signing. (We all know it’s purely with an eye on next season, I’m sure) | |
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| JP on 19:27 - Mar 15 with 2741 views | LankHenners |
The first thing I'd say is that the idea he's been 'consistently weak and poor' is just rubbish really. Think he's looked better game on game playing in an unfavoured position because needs must/McKenna doesn't rate the other options.
Not to say he's been brilliant but the reality of it is he's another player playing in this league for the first time and taking time to get used to it. Not much help to us now obviously but think it was a deal that became available to do so we jumped on it as he's a player we've admired for a while and think will be good for us. Think it's fair to say our track record on those types of deals is pretty good.
Feel for him a bit as people have just taken a dislike to him for whatever reason and he'll have to do a lot just to shift that opinion a bit all because football fans are really bad at seeing things with any perspective. |  |
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| JP on 19:29 - Mar 15 with 2696 views | SaffronWaldenBlues |
| JP on 19:13 - Mar 15 by textbackup |
You’d like to think that IF we were to bounce straight back up that everyone would sit down and go over what/who not to buy for a decent crack at staying up.
As this lot just don’t have the qualities to be even close to keeping us up. |
If we were to bounce up again with the current squad, not loans,who would realistically be worth keeping if we were serious about staying up? Some will be too old for the season after next anyway. I’d say I’d only rate Wolfenden, Delap and at a push Hutchinson as worth keeping as a Premier League side. Palmer, Muric, O’Shea, Greaves, Jack Clarke, Philogene, Szmodics, and Co are not good enough for the Premier League, it’s painfully obvious. |  |
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| JP on 19:50 - Mar 15 with 2539 views | RegencyBlue |
| JP on 19:25 - Mar 15 by textbackup |
Yes of course, unfair to expect him to be our saviour when he’s clearly not ready for the PL.
Begs the question, when in a battle to stay up, why did the powers that be opt for that signing. (We all know it’s purely with an eye on next season, I’m sure) |
I would guess it’s something along the lines of struggling to bring in PL quality in Jan but taking an opportunity that arose to get in a player they’ve been after for a while whilst they could.
He’s been acquired for the future without question and that’s in the Championship now. | | | |
| JP on 20:08 - Mar 15 with 2404 views | LeoMuff |
| JP on 19:25 - Mar 15 by mellowblue |
Physicality is so important now. All these guys are athletes. Even someone like Phillips lacks the physicality now for the Premier, yet he was more than adequate a few years ago. We had not learnt the lesson when we went back in for Philogene. A mistake I think. How many wingers/10s do we need. |
I don’t think you can start Hutch, Philogene and Encisco in the starting 11 - all very good players but they looked so lightweight today, all 3 brushed off the ball with ease. |  |
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| JP on 20:25 - Mar 15 with 2287 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| JP on 19:11 - Mar 15 by JakeITFC |
Think there is a player there, just not coming off for him atm. |
It would help if our CBs with ball at feet at least tried to pass to JP.,
No evidence of that in the first half at least. |  |
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| JP on 20:32 - Mar 15 with 2239 views | Vaughan8 |
| JP on 19:09 - Mar 15 by J2BLUE |
Was very good in the Championship and is an England U21 so hopefully there is a good base to build on and the fee will eventually seem cheap.
And yes, that's based more on hope at this point but he deserves a fair chance. |
I'll just say Dane Scarlett was in the England u21s when he came on loan............!
Being serious, he's clearly got something, and i'm sure he'll be good in the Championship, but he's not looked good in the PL since coming, despite a few goals. | | | |
| JP on 20:34 - Mar 15 with 2207 views | FrimleyBlue |
| JP on 20:32 - Mar 15 by Vaughan8 |
I'll just say Dane Scarlett was in the England u21s when he came on loan............!
Being serious, he's clearly got something, and i'm sure he'll be good in the Championship, but he's not looked good in the PL since coming, despite a few goals. |
I still think dane will become a top talent. He's got years ahead of him still. |  |
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| JP on 22:06 - Mar 15 with 1983 views | cressi |
A strong wind will knock him over I'm afraid. Weak as water. Jesus 22 millon our recruitment in general has been awful. | | | |
| JP on 22:24 - Mar 15 with 1868 views | BloomBlue |
Football is 90% confidence. He returned to Villa and then basically he was kicked out by them, confidence must get hit in that situation. He then joins Town, a squad of players with low confidence, probably not the best move for a player lacking confidence.
I'm sure, well OK I'm hopeful, he will be an asset eventually.
But you do have to ask the question, if Emery felt he isn't ready for the Prem at the moment why did we buy him. |  | | |
| JP on 23:04 - Mar 15 with 1736 views | Eireannach_gorm |
| JP on 19:25 - Mar 15 by mellowblue |
Physicality is so important now. All these guys are athletes. Even someone like Phillips lacks the physicality now for the Premier, yet he was more than adequate a few years ago. We had not learnt the lesson when we went back in for Philogene. A mistake I think. How many wingers/10s do we need. |
Which is why Delap stands out head and shoulders above everyone else, his physicality. |  | | |
| JP on 23:10 - Mar 15 with 1675 views | pointofblue |
| JP on 23:04 - Mar 15 by Eireannach_gorm |
Which is why Delap stands out head and shoulders above everyone else, his physicality. |
And why he keeps getting picked although I understand why others are calling for Hirst to come in. We have no one else with his physical attributes. | |
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| JP on 23:55 - Mar 15 with 1518 views | Garv |
| JP on 19:27 - Mar 15 by LankHenners |
The first thing I'd say is that the idea he's been 'consistently weak and poor' is just rubbish really. Think he's looked better game on game playing in an unfavoured position because needs must/McKenna doesn't rate the other options.
Not to say he's been brilliant but the reality of it is he's another player playing in this league for the first time and taking time to get used to it. Not much help to us now obviously but think it was a deal that became available to do so we jumped on it as he's a player we've admired for a while and think will be good for us. Think it's fair to say our track record on those types of deals is pretty good.
Feel for him a bit as people have just taken a dislike to him for whatever reason and he'll have to do a lot just to shift that opinion a bit all because football fans are really bad at seeing things with any perspective. |
You're way off with your last comments. He's just been poor, it's not any more complicated than that.
He's clearly lacking confidence, which I obviously have sympathy for and that has a big impact. He just shouldn't be in the side, that's on KMc. |  |
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