| Stolen from the Beeb 14:16 - Mar 27 with 4515 views | Crawfordsboot |
How many of our current side would get into a team of our all time greats? Not many I suspect
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| Stolen from the Beeb on 18:12 - Mar 27 with 768 views | MK1 |
| Stolen from the Beeb on 17:53 - Mar 27 by Garv |
Personally I think most teams of today would thrash most teams of yesteryear, but you're right it's an impossible debate. |
It's an All Time X1. Nothing to do with fitness, pitches etc. |  |
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| Stolen from the Beeb on 18:16 - Mar 27 with 757 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
The better question would be how many would make the list of our top 100 players. Possibly 1 or 2 would. We are doing very well compared to our recent history but still a very long way short of where we spent more than a decade and have been at several other times across history.
Alternatively how many would make our team of the 21st Century. Again not too many because it just catches the previous Premier team. |  |
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| Stolen from the Beeb on 18:20 - Mar 27 with 745 views | MK1 |
| Stolen from the Beeb on 18:10 - Mar 27 by Lord_Lucan |
It’s a different world though isn’t it.
You remember those player interviews when they were asked “What is your favourite pre match meal” and they would say “Steak and Chips” - and you just know they would have a couple of fags after whilst reading the Racing Post. |
The question was....
"How many of our current side would get into a team of our all time greats?"
ALL TIME GREATS.
The answer is none. | |
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| Stolen from the Beeb on 18:22 - Mar 27 with 736 views | MK1 |
| Stolen from the Beeb on 18:16 - Mar 27 by Nthsuffolkblue |
The better question would be how many would make the list of our top 100 players. Possibly 1 or 2 would. We are doing very well compared to our recent history but still a very long way short of where we spent more than a decade and have been at several other times across history.
Alternatively how many would make our team of the 21st Century. Again not too many because it just catches the previous Premier team. |
Only Morsy would stand a chance of making it into our top 100.
We have had some truly brilliant players down the years. Brilliant players. | |
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| Stolen from the Beeb on 18:29 - Mar 27 with 707 views | Menton |
| Stolen from the Beeb on 16:06 - Mar 27 by monty_radio |
So you don't think that previous greats, that would be fitting into this same imaginary team and therefore all receiving the same level of training would make the grade? There speaks someone who never saw Kevin Beattie or Muhren (or fill in your own candidate) play? |
Depends on the question doesn’t it? If it is who would win playing as they were then versus the current team now, I don’t think the 70/80s or even the 2000 team would get a look in. They simply wouldn’t have the athleticism or fitness required.
I’m surprised anyone wouldn’t disagree with that. |  |
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| Stolen from the Beeb on 18:29 - Mar 27 with 707 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Stolen from the Beeb on 18:22 - Mar 27 by MK1 |
Only Morsy would stand a chance of making it into our top 100.
We have had some truly brilliant players down the years. Brilliant players. |
That’s a ridiculous thing to say. |  |
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| Stolen from the Beeb on 18:33 - Mar 27 with 698 views | MK1 |
| Stolen from the Beeb on 18:29 - Mar 27 by Lord_Lucan |
That’s a ridiculous thing to say. |
Who else from the current squad makes it into our All Time Top 100? | |
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| Stolen from the Beeb on 18:34 - Mar 27 with 694 views | MK1 |
| Stolen from the Beeb on 18:29 - Mar 27 by Menton |
Depends on the question doesn’t it? If it is who would win playing as they were then versus the current team now, I don’t think the 70/80s or even the 2000 team would get a look in. They simply wouldn’t have the athleticism or fitness required.
I’m surprised anyone wouldn’t disagree with that. |
The question was....
"How many of our current side would get into a team of our all time greats?"
ALL TIME GREATS.
The answer is none. | |
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| Stolen from the Beeb on 18:40 - Mar 27 with 685 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Stolen from the Beeb on 18:33 - Mar 27 by MK1 |
Who else from the current squad makes it into our All Time Top 100? |
Name me 99 players better than Hutchinson. | |
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| Stolen from the Beeb on 18:45 - Mar 27 with 667 views | Menton |
| Stolen from the Beeb on 18:34 - Mar 27 by MK1 |
The question was....
"How many of our current side would get into a team of our all time greats?"
ALL TIME GREATS.
The answer is none. |
Yet the current team would smash any previous Town team containing said greats. | |
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| Stolen from the Beeb on 18:49 - Mar 27 with 659 views | MK1 |
| Stolen from the Beeb on 18:40 - Mar 27 by Lord_Lucan |
Name me 99 players better than Hutchinson. |
Specific to his position?
I rate defenders just as highly as midfielders and forwards. My list would contain the likes of Mick Mills, George Burley and Billy Baxter. Are the better right sided forwards than Hutchinson? No.
Have they been better for this club than any of the current squad? By a mile. | |
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| Stolen from the Beeb on 18:50 - Mar 27 with 656 views | MK1 |
| Stolen from the Beeb on 18:45 - Mar 27 by Menton |
Yet the current team would smash any previous Town team containing said greats. |
That wasn't the question. | |
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| Stolen from the Beeb on 18:56 - Mar 27 with 647 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Stolen from the Beeb on 18:22 - Mar 27 by MK1 |
Only Morsy would stand a chance of making it into our top 100.
We have had some truly brilliant players down the years. Brilliant players. |
I am not sure Morsy would make it. I was thinking Delap but he hasn't had long enough to show how good he will be and he is far from good enough right now. So, the current team have a few who have the potential to become good enough but none would be good enough right now. | |
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| Stolen from the Beeb on 19:05 - Mar 27 with 635 views | MK1 |
| Stolen from the Beeb on 18:45 - Mar 27 by Menton |
Yet the current team would smash any previous Town team containing said greats. |
Also, you are massively under estimating just how good our players from yesteryear were. Butcher, Beattie, Burley, Osman, Berra, Hreioarsson and Mills would have done better than our current back line.
Wark, Holland, Magilton, Thijssen and Muhren would have done better than our current crop in midfield. Mariner, Gates, Brazil, Whymark, Woods, Murphy, Stewart, Bent would have done better than our current front lines.
Our sides from the late 70's/ early 80's had some great players. Our sides in the very early 2000s had some great players. Put a mix together and it would easily survive this season.
I know I am old, but these guys could play. | |
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| Stolen from the Beeb on 19:07 - Mar 27 with 630 views | MK1 |
| Stolen from the Beeb on 18:56 - Mar 27 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I am not sure Morsy would make it. I was thinking Delap but he hasn't had long enough to show how good he will be and he is far from good enough right now. So, the current team have a few who have the potential to become good enough but none would be good enough right now. |
Thank you. Someone else actually answering the question the Op asked. | |
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| Stolen from the Beeb on 19:23 - Mar 27 with 617 views | BasingstokeBlue |
| Stolen from the Beeb on 19:05 - Mar 27 by MK1 |
Also, you are massively under estimating just how good our players from yesteryear were. Butcher, Beattie, Burley, Osman, Berra, Hreioarsson and Mills would have done better than our current back line.
Wark, Holland, Magilton, Thijssen and Muhren would have done better than our current crop in midfield. Mariner, Gates, Brazil, Whymark, Woods, Murphy, Stewart, Bent would have done better than our current front lines.
Our sides from the late 70's/ early 80's had some great players. Our sides in the very early 2000s had some great players. Put a mix together and it would easily survive this season.
I know I am old, but these guys could play. |
Agreed - and that's without even mentioning Ray Crawford and Ted Phillips. |  |
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| Stolen from the Beeb on 19:37 - Mar 27 with 600 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Stolen from the Beeb on 18:49 - Mar 27 by MK1 |
Specific to his position?
I rate defenders just as highly as midfielders and forwards. My list would contain the likes of Mick Mills, George Burley and Billy Baxter. Are the better right sided forwards than Hutchinson? No.
Have they been better for this club than any of the current squad? By a mile. |
You said "All Time Top 100", you didn't mention position.......
But anyway, the question is as daft as a Donald © Lord Lucan...
Name me 9 players better than Hutchinson in his position.
In fact, name me 9 better players per player per position. | |
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| Stolen from the Beeb on 19:37 - Mar 27 with 599 views | MK1 |
| Stolen from the Beeb on 19:23 - Mar 27 by BasingstokeBlue |
Agreed - and that's without even mentioning Ray Crawford and Ted Phillips. |
Crawford & Phillips make our top 10.
I was trying to explain to the young pup that some from our past could make it today. I tried to use names he might know. | |
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| Stolen from the Beeb on 19:48 - Mar 27 with 583 views | MK1 |
| Stolen from the Beeb on 19:37 - Mar 27 by Lord_Lucan |
You said "All Time Top 100", you didn't mention position.......
But anyway, the question is as daft as a Donald © Lord Lucan...
Name me 9 players better than Hutchinson in his position.
In fact, name me 9 better players per player per position. |
You know I could if I could be Assed.
You are not as young as the other lad. I forgive him because he doesn't know anything before the PL.
Hutchinson is an ok player, but lets not pretend he is that good.
If you chose Chaplin or Morsy to make our top 100, I could find an argument for them. | |
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| Stolen from the Beeb on 19:56 - Mar 27 with 577 views | DJR |
| Stolen from the Beeb on 17:56 - Mar 27 by monty_radio |
I don't think that the "high octane game" ascription allows for all that you actually see in today's Prem. Most noticeable is the level of ball control on display in the best sides - but great players have always excelled in that area. You only have to look at how McKenna's methods elevated many of our original L1 products to see that the physical and movement areas respond to intense and intelligent coaching.
But now, as way back when, when youth coaches talk about exciting emerging prospects, it is always their ball control that is the standout. |
These days we probably underestimate how good players were technically in those days because they weren't necessarily encouraged to play that way.
Mick McNeil (a defender) took training sessions at Ipswich Rugby Club after he retired.
After one session, he produced a football and asked people to try to get it off him.
No one could get it off him or get anywhere near him [Post edited 27 Mar 20:02]
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| Stolen from the Beeb on 20:07 - Mar 27 with 555 views | Meadowlark |
None. |  | | |
| Stolen from the Beeb on 20:12 - Mar 27 with 554 views | MK1 |
| Stolen from the Beeb on 19:56 - Mar 27 by DJR |
These days we probably underestimate how good players were technically in those days because they weren't necessarily encouraged to play that way.
Mick McNeil (a defender) took training sessions at Ipswich Rugby Club after he retired.
After one session, he produced a football and asked people to try to get it off him.
No one could get it off him or get anywhere near him [Post edited 27 Mar 20:02]
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Kevin Beattie was a beautifully gifted football. Had the lot. Quicker than you would think, brilliant touch and feet. You had to get a good run at him to beat him in the air. If you did, you better be quick, because he would make sure you weren't able to do it again. Burley was a right back before his time. Very talented player. Osman had the pace for todays game. Thijssen was as good as Rice is today. Holland and Magilton would be £40M players today. Stewart and Mariner would have no problem playing in todays PL. The list goes on.
There was football before the PL. | |
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| Stolen from the Beeb on 08:51 - Mar 28 with 420 views | Papillon64 |
| Stolen from the Beeb on 18:49 - Mar 27 by MK1 |
Specific to his position?
I rate defenders just as highly as midfielders and forwards. My list would contain the likes of Mick Mills, George Burley and Billy Baxter. Are the better right sided forwards than Hutchinson? No.
Have they been better for this club than any of the current squad? By a mile. |
Billy Baxter (title winning captain) and Mick Mills should get more recognition for their achievments with us in my humble opinion. I wish Mick Mills would write a book as he has seen it all with Ipswich and England. I also wish there was a line of merchandise regarding the Texaco cup triumph , but then I guess I am from a different generation and must stop talking to the voices in my head. :). |  | | |
| Stolen from the Beeb on 08:59 - Mar 28 with 412 views | Smoresy |
| Stolen from the Beeb on 18:33 - Mar 27 by MK1 |
Who else from the current squad makes it into our All Time Top 100? |
Are we talking contribution to the club or how good they are? If the latter, Cajuste is better than prime Morsy. It may not always be obvious because opponents are so much better than those Morsy faced in his dominant seasons with us. |  | | |
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