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Palmer 20:55 - Apr 5 with 4561 viewsGeoffSentence

Cocks up ust as often as Muric

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Palmer on 20:58 - Apr 5 with 3783 viewsScuzzer

You obviously didn't pass your maths at school.

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Palmer on 21:02 - Apr 5 with 3757 viewsSuffolkPunchFC

Not an entirely inaccurate statement - but he’s been luckier, and mostly got away with it.
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Palmer on 21:05 - Apr 5 with 3726 viewsGeoffSentence

Palmer on 20:58 - Apr 5 by Scuzzer

You obviously didn't pass your maths at school.


He doea though. Muric was generally solid with the unfortunate ability to drop a clanger. Palmer is dropping similar clangers but he's getting away with them.

Just looking at the last two games he made a 'Muric' pass but got away with it, Bournemouth scored after he had made a save but pushed the bll into a dangerous area, exactly as Muric did agains Southampton and got pelters for it, the difference of course was that we beat Bournemouth and that was the losing goal against Southampton.

As for Palmer's brain fart today, we got away with that thanks to the defence pulling his fat out of the fire.

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Palmer on 21:05 - Apr 5 with 3715 viewsDavoIPB

This is a true statement
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Palmer on 21:08 - Apr 5 with 3661 viewsTractorWood

Frightening how much we've wasted on talent in the last 9 months.

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Palmer on 21:12 - Apr 5 with 3593 viewsGarv

Disagree but I will say Muric is becoming a worse player the longer he's out the side, which isn't necessarily fair in my view.

People forget the good performances he put in towards the start of the season.

Palmer has been good on the whole, but like most keepers that aren't in the top 6/7 in the Premier League, has a mistake in him.

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Palmer on 21:14 - Apr 5 with 3590 viewsPhilTWTD

Palmer on 21:05 - Apr 5 by GeoffSentence

He doea though. Muric was generally solid with the unfortunate ability to drop a clanger. Palmer is dropping similar clangers but he's getting away with them.

Just looking at the last two games he made a 'Muric' pass but got away with it, Bournemouth scored after he had made a save but pushed the bll into a dangerous area, exactly as Muric did agains Southampton and got pelters for it, the difference of course was that we beat Bournemouth and that was the losing goal against Southampton.

As for Palmer's brain fart today, we got away with that thanks to the defence pulling his fat out of the fire.


And him reacting quickly and saving it, even if it gave away a free-kick. In terms of errors, I don't think there's any comparison, Palmer has made far fewer and you can see the defence has more confidence in him than they did Muric.
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Palmer on 21:16 - Apr 5 with 3532 viewsSwailsey

Palmer on 21:14 - Apr 5 by PhilTWTD

And him reacting quickly and saving it, even if it gave away a free-kick. In terms of errors, I don't think there's any comparison, Palmer has made far fewer and you can see the defence has more confidence in him than they did Muric.


Exactly. It’s a weird narrative that people seem keen to jump on every time Walton or now Palmer makes an error.

Muric had some good qualities (as you would obviously expect because he played for Man City), but he has by and large been atrocious for us and IMO has contributed towards our relegation hugely.

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Palmer on 21:22 - Apr 5 with 3439 viewsHugoagogo_Reborn

Palmer on 21:14 - Apr 5 by PhilTWTD

And him reacting quickly and saving it, even if it gave away a free-kick. In terms of errors, I don't think there's any comparison, Palmer has made far fewer and you can see the defence has more confidence in him than they did Muric.


The reality is, we don't have the resources for a top, top-end keeper. So all three keepers we have on our books will have weaknesses that are clearly apparent when compared to the relatively small weaknesses that the likes of Allison/Emerson/Pickford, etc have.

Tough one to call at the end of this season. I'd happily give Muric another go if he truly wants to be here next season and addresses the confidence issue, but for me, with all three in top form, it's Muric, Palmer, Walton, in that order
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Palmer on 21:23 - Apr 5 with 3447 viewsitfcjoe

Palmer on 21:14 - Apr 5 by PhilTWTD

And him reacting quickly and saving it, even if it gave away a free-kick. In terms of errors, I don't think there's any comparison, Palmer has made far fewer and you can see the defence has more confidence in him than they did Muric.


I think Palmer has got away with his whereas Muric didn’t, but agree re the confidence of team in him being greater

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Palmer on 21:26 - Apr 5 with 3386 viewsPhilTWTD

Palmer on 21:23 - Apr 5 by itfcjoe

I think Palmer has got away with his whereas Muric didn’t, but agree re the confidence of team in him being greater


Perhaps, although Muric got away with one or two as well!
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Palmer on 21:29 - Apr 5 with 3332 viewsitfcjoe

Palmer on 21:26 - Apr 5 by PhilTWTD

Perhaps, although Muric got away with one or two as well!


Not that it matters as Muric is yesterdays man and best to look forwards but had Muric put in the Bournemouth performance lots would have been made over willing the goal and the ‘pass’ to Morsy that DOS got him out of jail for

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Palmer on 21:37 - Apr 5 with 3226 viewsBloomBlue

Palmer on 21:12 - Apr 5 by Garv

Disagree but I will say Muric is becoming a worse player the longer he's out the side, which isn't necessarily fair in my view.

People forget the good performances he put in towards the start of the season.

Palmer has been good on the whole, but like most keepers that aren't in the top 6/7 in the Premier League, has a mistake in him.


Even GKs in the top 6/7 teams make mistakes. Chelsea GKs have probably made more mistakes this season than Town keepers and they're in the top 6.
The difference is they have the quality of players to score more goals than the opposition so the GK mistakes are overlooked.
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Palmer on 21:40 - Apr 5 with 3185 viewsPhilTWTD

Palmer on 21:29 - Apr 5 by itfcjoe

Not that it matters as Muric is yesterdays man and best to look forwards but had Muric put in the Bournemouth performance lots would have been made over willing the goal and the ‘pass’ to Morsy that DOS got him out of jail for


I'm sure that would be the case, although the keeper-Morsy pass is one which is always going to be prone to an error every now and then whoever is in goal, I think Hladky also did something similar last season, Muric against Newcastle.
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Palmer on 21:46 - Apr 5 with 3094 viewsGeoffSentence

Palmer on 21:14 - Apr 5 by PhilTWTD

And him reacting quickly and saving it, even if it gave away a free-kick. In terms of errors, I don't think there's any comparison, Palmer has made far fewer and you can see the defence has more confidence in him than they did Muric.


Palmer has played half as many games.

For the benefit of doubt I dont think either of them are bad keepers, they are being let don by what is going on in front of them. Palmer is getting a free pass from the fans though where Muric would get slated.

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Palmer on 21:56 - Apr 5 with 3026 viewsJuggsy

Palmer communicates well with his defenders. Muric is silent throughout. That is the difference.
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Palmer on 22:03 - Apr 5 with 2952 viewsSwailsey

Palmer on 21:46 - Apr 5 by GeoffSentence

Palmer has played half as many games.

For the benefit of doubt I dont think either of them are bad keepers, they are being let don by what is going on in front of them. Palmer is getting a free pass from the fans though where Muric would get slated.


Was Muric slated this early on though? I don’t think so.

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Palmer on 22:09 - Apr 5 with 2905 viewsHugoagogo_Reborn

Palmer on 21:56 - Apr 5 by Juggsy

Palmer communicates well with his defenders. Muric is silent throughout. That is the difference.


This is an extremely valid point. I've never seen such a non-commnicative keeper than Muric at Ipswich Town

However, maybe there are outside factors involved in that: new club, adjusting to life in a backwater town, impending court case for driving offences, clashes with Kosovo manager, new club's fans getting on your back for a few poor performances in the best league in the world.

Some players take stress and use it to perform better, others get demoralised. It's human nature. I'd love it if we got to see the Muric we know is lurking inside that shell.
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Palmer on 22:11 - Apr 5 with 2866 viewsPhilTWTD

Palmer on 21:46 - Apr 5 by GeoffSentence

Palmer has played half as many games.

For the benefit of doubt I dont think either of them are bad keepers, they are being let don by what is going on in front of them. Palmer is getting a free pass from the fans though where Muric would get slated.


I think the difference is Palmer has largely had solid games for us, whereas I'm not sure Muric similarly put much credit in the bank.
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Palmer on 22:15 - Apr 5 with 2792 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Palmer on 21:29 - Apr 5 by itfcjoe

Not that it matters as Muric is yesterdays man and best to look forwards but had Muric put in the Bournemouth performance lots would have been made over willing the goal and the ‘pass’ to Morsy that DOS got him out of jail for


Overall Palmer has been way more solid. A very decent level champ GK still would be looking at an upgrade if we got back though.
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Palmer on 22:31 - Apr 5 with 2611 viewsmanagement

According to TWTD match ratings, Palmer has been MOM in 3 of his 9 appearances, Muric once away to Brighton. Palmer is light years more reassuring & communicative.
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Palmer on 22:34 - Apr 5 with 2553 viewsNeedhamChris

Palmer on 22:03 - Apr 5 by Swailsey

Was Muric slated this early on though? I don’t think so.


He got a 3.2 rating in only his second game, Man City in August - only beaten by his 2.7 against Southampton. So I don't think it took long

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Palmer on 22:38 - Apr 5 with 2505 viewsPhilTWTD

Palmer on 22:34 - Apr 5 by NeedhamChris

He got a 3.2 rating in only his second game, Man City in August - only beaten by his 2.7 against Southampton. So I don't think it took long


Perhaps some context needed, Muric made errors which led to two goals in two minutes, so that vote would have been a reflection of his performance rather than what might be viewed as an agenda.
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Palmer on 22:38 - Apr 5 with 2483 viewsFoghornGleghorn

Palmer on 22:34 - Apr 5 by NeedhamChris

He got a 3.2 rating in only his second game, Man City in August - only beaten by his 2.7 against Southampton. So I don't think it took long


His first game, actually. His ridiculous-errors-directly-leading-to-conceded-goals average being two per game at that point.
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Palmer on 22:41 - Apr 5 with 2437 viewskesblue

I think if we spent 40m on ramsdale instead of muric philigene and clarke we'd b staying up
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