| Another 700+ today 19:03 - Apr 15 with 35648 views | bluejacko |
Whatever your view on this crisis it is NOT sustainable!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/art
So much for the smash the gangs approach,Rwanda was not by any means perfect but it had migrants here in NI going down south to get away from it in such numbers that the Irish police actually started doing checks at the border! |  | | |  |
| Another 700+ today on 12:17 - Apr 20 with 1100 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Another 700+ today on 08:14 - Apr 20 by Herbivore |
Where are you getting your stats from? The migration and removals data that is available looks different from the numbers you've provided and the analysis of the data makes it clear that the data you are presenting does not exist as the government doesn't break down data on removals by route of arrival: https://migrationobservatory.o [Post edited 20 Apr 2025 9:07]
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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-53
https://www.gov.uk/government/
Your link is talking about a whole not specifically small boats which was the topic of this thread and asylum data you’d provided earlier I believe. It’s ok to be wrong and admit it. [Post edited 20 Apr 2025 12:24]
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| Another 700+ today on 12:24 - Apr 20 with 1035 views | noggin |
"As at 17 December 2024, 267,200 visas had been issued to Ukrainian refugees, who came through legal routes set up by the UK government."
And nobody bats an eyelid. Why? Surely they are as much a burden on public services as the brown people. |  |
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| Another 700+ today on 12:26 - Apr 20 with 1019 views | Herbivore |
Thanks for sharing that. The data is interesting, almost no returns at all prior to 2022 and then in 2024 there were around 2k people returned, which is almost half the total from the whole of 2018-2024. That does suggest the ridiculous backlog that the Tories oversaw has contributed to the poor return rate and the rate of return is now picking up. [Post edited 20 Apr 2025 12:30]
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| Another 700+ today on 12:38 - Apr 20 with 973 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Another 700+ today on 12:26 - Apr 20 by Herbivore |
Thanks for sharing that. The data is interesting, almost no returns at all prior to 2022 and then in 2024 there were around 2k people returned, which is almost half the total from the whole of 2018-2024. That does suggest the ridiculous backlog that the Tories oversaw has contributed to the poor return rate and the rate of return is now picking up. [Post edited 20 Apr 2025 12:30]
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| Another 700+ today on 13:09 - Apr 20 with 918 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Another 700+ today on 12:26 - Apr 20 by Herbivore |
Thanks for sharing that. The data is interesting, almost no returns at all prior to 2022 and then in 2024 there were around 2k people returned, which is almost half the total from the whole of 2018-2024. That does suggest the ridiculous backlog that the Tories oversaw has contributed to the poor return rate and the rate of return is now picking up. [Post edited 20 Apr 2025 12:30]
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For what it’s worth I don’t think it’s particularly the back log at play here as such and more to do with the governments 2022 agreement with Albania, the timelines and the data match this if you take a look.
The returns are disproportionately Albanian nationals.
Of the 3% returned of the total arrivals between 2018-2024, it looks like 84% in 2024 and 87% in 2023 were Albanian thus others nationalities arriving by boat that returned is in the hundreds in a 6 year period. | |
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| Another 700+ today on 16:40 - Apr 20 with 824 views | Herbivore |
| Another 700+ today on 13:09 - Apr 20 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
For what it’s worth I don’t think it’s particularly the back log at play here as such and more to do with the governments 2022 agreement with Albania, the timelines and the data match this if you take a look.
The returns are disproportionately Albanian nationals.
Of the 3% returned of the total arrivals between 2018-2024, it looks like 84% in 2024 and 87% in 2023 were Albanian thus others nationalities arriving by boat that returned is in the hundreds in a 6 year period. |
If you look at the nationalities that make up the small boat arrivals, take out the Albanians and the vast majority likely have a legitimate asylum claim. | |
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| Another 700+ today on 10:27 - Apr 21 with 694 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Another 700+ today on 12:24 - Apr 20 by noggin |
"As at 17 December 2024, 267,200 visas had been issued to Ukrainian refugees, who came through legal routes set up by the UK government."
And nobody bats an eyelid. Why? Surely they are as much a burden on public services as the brown people. |
Or perhaps it’s because they are mostly women and children.
I don’t think males between the ages of 18 - 60 are even allowed to leave Ukraine.
Of course you probably know this but it doesn’t fit your agenda. |  |
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| Another 700+ today on 10:44 - Apr 21 with 678 views | noggin |
| Another 700+ today on 10:27 - Apr 21 by Lord_Lucan |
Or perhaps it’s because they are mostly women and children.
I don’t think males between the ages of 18 - 60 are even allowed to leave Ukraine.
Of course you probably know this but it doesn’t fit your agenda. |
Strange because I know of plenty of Ukranian men who have moved to Norway, since the Russian invasion. One of them I know personally, others I have dealt with at work. So no, I didn't know that.
The main gripe about immigration is that public services can't cope, and the cost to the tax payer. The sex, age and nationality of the immigrants is pretty irrelevant to that.
What exactly is 'my agenda'? [Post edited 21 Apr 2025 10:48]
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| Another 700+ today on 11:27 - Apr 21 with 625 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Another 700+ today on 10:44 - Apr 21 by noggin |
Strange because I know of plenty of Ukranian men who have moved to Norway, since the Russian invasion. One of them I know personally, others I have dealt with at work. So no, I didn't know that.
The main gripe about immigration is that public services can't cope, and the cost to the tax payer. The sex, age and nationality of the immigrants is pretty irrelevant to that.
What exactly is 'my agenda'? [Post edited 21 Apr 2025 10:48]
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I’m old fashioned and even these days I’m confident my values remain consistent with most people.
Women and children first!
….and in any case, they are seeking refuge and are likely to go back if and when the war is over. Actually, I think they only have three year visas - which can be extended while the conflict remains. [Post edited 21 Apr 2025 11:36]
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| Another 700+ today on 12:02 - Apr 21 with 607 views | Benters |
| Another 700+ today on 10:27 - Apr 21 by Lord_Lucan |
Or perhaps it’s because they are mostly women and children.
I don’t think males between the ages of 18 - 60 are even allowed to leave Ukraine.
Of course you probably know this but it doesn’t fit your agenda. |
I have no agenda . |  |
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