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Another 700+ today 19:03 - Apr 15 with 27325 viewsbluejacko

Whatever your view on this crisis it is NOT sustainable!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cddezjy97vro

So much for the smash the gangs approach,Rwanda was not by any means perfect but it had migrants here in NI going down south to get away from it in such numbers that the Irish police actually started doing checks at the border!
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Another 700+ today on 13:09 - Apr 19 with 1288 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Another 700+ today on 13:03 - Apr 19 by Ryorry

You're descended from the revolting Welsh hordes?!

https://www.iwa.wales/wp-content/media/2_Factfile_History1.pdf


Interesting to note that there's a good chance there's some Italian and other European heritage there from the Roman occupation too.

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Another 700+ today on 13:18 - Apr 19 with 1261 viewsFoghornGleghorn

Another 700+ today on 12:51 - Apr 19 by Leaky

I think this post cover's a lot of people concerns. Doesn't make them all racist


Perhaps not, but "concerns" are things that worry people, right? And if something's worrying, and there's facts and data to prove that it's not something to worry about, surely that's a good and reassuring thing? So why don't people like this want to have their "concerns" allayed?

It seems to be just because it's easier to listen to what Nigel Farage is whispering in their ear rather than do a bit of balanced reading, and because it's a matter of pride and unwillingness to accept they've been made to look a bit gullible.

Someone posted this yesterday. It's spot-on.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/18/far-right-online-content-c
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Another 700+ today on 13:28 - Apr 19 with 1241 viewsBLUEGOLD

Another 700+ today on 12:51 - Apr 19 by Leaky

I think this post cover's a lot of people concerns. Doesn't make them all racist


It certainly doesn’t make them not racist though
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Another 700+ today on 13:31 - Apr 19 with 1220 viewsPlums

Another 700+ today on 13:18 - Apr 19 by FoghornGleghorn

Perhaps not, but "concerns" are things that worry people, right? And if something's worrying, and there's facts and data to prove that it's not something to worry about, surely that's a good and reassuring thing? So why don't people like this want to have their "concerns" allayed?

It seems to be just because it's easier to listen to what Nigel Farage is whispering in their ear rather than do a bit of balanced reading, and because it's a matter of pride and unwillingness to accept they've been made to look a bit gullible.

Someone posted this yesterday. It's spot-on.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/18/far-right-online-content-c


Sadly 'Paul' is only the tip of the iceberg. In my experience, 'Paul' will speak with lots of people as he goes about his business and he will pollute the village well by spreading and drip feeding the poison he's been fed. Many of his older friends probably won't be on social media but they will pick up on the golden thread of bull that's emanating from it and the narrative is born.

Our elders are at great risk from this and the 'I only buy the {insert right wing rag} because it has a good TV section/ vouchers etc' loss leaders. It's corrosive and scary.

It's 106 miles to Portman Road, we've got a full tank of gas, half a round of Port Salut, it's dark... and we're wearing blue tinted sunglasses.
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Another 700+ today on 13:39 - Apr 19 with 1194 viewsRyorry

Another 700+ today on 13:18 - Apr 19 by FoghornGleghorn

Perhaps not, but "concerns" are things that worry people, right? And if something's worrying, and there's facts and data to prove that it's not something to worry about, surely that's a good and reassuring thing? So why don't people like this want to have their "concerns" allayed?

It seems to be just because it's easier to listen to what Nigel Farage is whispering in their ear rather than do a bit of balanced reading, and because it's a matter of pride and unwillingness to accept they've been made to look a bit gullible.

Someone posted this yesterday. It's spot-on.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/18/far-right-online-content-c


Superb article, thanks for posting.

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Another 700+ today on 14:24 - Apr 19 with 1146 viewsHerbivore

Another 700+ today on 12:51 - Apr 19 by Leaky

I think this post cover's a lot of people concerns. Doesn't make them all racist


And a lot of these concerns have been responded to, with evidence, but people don't seem to want to shift from their own prejudices, sadly.

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Another 700+ today on 14:38 - Apr 19 with 1111 viewsleitrimblue

Another 700+ today on 07:17 - Apr 19 by noggin

"and yet my ancestors defeated the English!"

Those "English" mostly originated from Northern mainland Europe and Scandinavia. Benters is probably of Norwegian descent. You should come over and see where your ancestors lived, Benters (they would have arrived on boats and probably committed crimes).
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You may be correct for the majority of Brits. But myself and Benters are the very rare type of Brits that are directly related to the first Mesolithic proples of England and whose ancestors have managed to breed only with other Brits who have avoided breeding with anyone who wasn't strictly descended from the original Mesolithic population for over 10000 years.
The rest of you though...
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Another 700+ today on 14:40 - Apr 19 with 1098 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Another 700+ today on 14:38 - Apr 19 by leitrimblue

You may be correct for the majority of Brits. But myself and Benters are the very rare type of Brits that are directly related to the first Mesolithic proples of England and whose ancestors have managed to breed only with other Brits who have avoided breeding with anyone who wasn't strictly descended from the original Mesolithic population for over 10000 years.
The rest of you though...


To be fair there are quite a few villages around here and into Norfolk like that. Benters has already admitted he is a Welsh immigrant, though.

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Another 700+ today on 14:41 - Apr 19 with 1080 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Another 700+ today on 14:38 - Apr 19 by leitrimblue

You may be correct for the majority of Brits. But myself and Benters are the very rare type of Brits that are directly related to the first Mesolithic proples of England and whose ancestors have managed to breed only with other Brits who have avoided breeding with anyone who wasn't strictly descended from the original Mesolithic population for over 10000 years.
The rest of you though...


Isn't there a decent chance that life landed on Earth rather than originated here, so you and Benters are potentially aliens from another planet?

Trust the process. Trust Phil.

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Another 700+ today on 14:46 - Apr 19 with 1059 viewsleitrimblue

Another 700+ today on 14:40 - Apr 19 by Nthsuffolkblue

To be fair there are quite a few villages around here and into Norfolk like that. Benters has already admitted he is a Welsh immigrant, though.


There's no Wales in the Mesolithic, just one big happy island recently cut off from our brethren in mainland Europe. In the future people will call us British and are brothers in Europe European. Crazy really
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Another 700+ today on 14:48 - Apr 19 with 1050 viewsleitrimblue

Another 700+ today on 14:41 - Apr 19 by The_Flashing_Smile

Isn't there a decent chance that life landed on Earth rather than originated here, so you and Benters are potentially aliens from another planet?


There is a small possibility that we are both descended from the aliens that constructed Stonehenge and then the Pyramids. Yep
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Another 700+ today on 15:05 - Apr 19 with 1004 viewsbrogansnose

Another 700+ today on 14:48 - Apr 19 by leitrimblue

There is a small possibility that we are both descended from the aliens that constructed Stonehenge and then the Pyramids. Yep


Really good to have a proper archaeologist like Erik Von Daniken on the forum.



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Another 700+ today on 15:07 - Apr 19 with 996 viewsBLUEGOLD

Another 700+ today on 14:24 - Apr 19 by Herbivore

And a lot of these concerns have been responded to, with evidence, but people don't seem to want to shift from their own prejudices, sadly.


Racists and idiots are not really fans of facts
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Another 700+ today on 15:09 - Apr 19 with 987 viewsRyorry

Another 700+ today on 14:38 - Apr 19 by leitrimblue

You may be correct for the majority of Brits. But myself and Benters are the very rare type of Brits that are directly related to the first Mesolithic proples of England and whose ancestors have managed to breed only with other Brits who have avoided breeding with anyone who wasn't strictly descended from the original Mesolithic population for over 10000 years.
The rest of you though...


Pah - you think you've got it complex? Try having a Dad who was born in the USA but whose parents were from either Poland, Germany or Russia, depending on where the changing borders were!

Plus the family name apparently being derived from the Netherlands, Croatia, Slovenia - and Gloucestershire! ( Guthers). Not to mention mother's side coming from either France or Germany, depending on who'd won the latest war!

And still some think human migration is a new thing.

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Another 700+ today on 15:21 - Apr 19 with 952 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Another 700+ today on 15:09 - Apr 19 by Ryorry

Pah - you think you've got it complex? Try having a Dad who was born in the USA but whose parents were from either Poland, Germany or Russia, depending on where the changing borders were!

Plus the family name apparently being derived from the Netherlands, Croatia, Slovenia - and Gloucestershire! ( Guthers). Not to mention mother's side coming from either France or Germany, depending on who'd won the latest war!

And still some think human migration is a new thing.


Can't believe this was 12 years ago now, but still perfectly illustrates the point!


Trust the process. Trust Phil.

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Another 700+ today on 15:27 - Apr 19 with 925 viewsBenters

Another 700+ today on 12:51 - Apr 19 by Nthsuffolkblue

So you are a Welsh immigrant!


Same Island though !

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Here he is. (n/t) on 15:30 - Apr 19 with 908 viewsBenters

Another 700+ today on 13:28 - Apr 19 by BLUEGOLD

It certainly doesn’t make them not racist though



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Another 700+ today on 15:33 - Apr 19 with 889 viewsBenters

Another 700+ today on 14:48 - Apr 19 by leitrimblue

There is a small possibility that we are both descended from the aliens that constructed Stonehenge and then the Pyramids. Yep


I always knew I was special ✌️😚 peace and love Brother.

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Another 700+ today on 15:35 - Apr 19 with 874 viewsBenters

Another 700+ today on 14:38 - Apr 19 by leitrimblue

You may be correct for the majority of Brits. But myself and Benters are the very rare type of Brits that are directly related to the first Mesolithic proples of England and whose ancestors have managed to breed only with other Brits who have avoided breeding with anyone who wasn't strictly descended from the original Mesolithic population for over 10000 years.
The rest of you though...


The peasants will be revolting soon if you don’t watch out 🤓

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Another 700+ today on 15:43 - Apr 19 with 862 viewsSwansea_Blue

Another 700+ today on 14:46 - Apr 19 by leitrimblue

There's no Wales in the Mesolithic, just one big happy island recently cut off from our brethren in mainland Europe. In the future people will call us British and are brothers in Europe European. Crazy really


Bollox. The Mesolithic Welsh are still around here - they all come out during the Six Nations. I bet they were defending their borders during the Mesolithic with their Cymru Am Byth bucket hats on and singing ‘always piss on the Doggerland side of the bridge, dah dah, dah dah dah dah dah dah’.

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Another 700+ today on 16:20 - Apr 19 with 795 viewsleitrimblue

Another 700+ today on 15:09 - Apr 19 by Ryorry

Pah - you think you've got it complex? Try having a Dad who was born in the USA but whose parents were from either Poland, Germany or Russia, depending on where the changing borders were!

Plus the family name apparently being derived from the Netherlands, Croatia, Slovenia - and Gloucestershire! ( Guthers). Not to mention mother's side coming from either France or Germany, depending on who'd won the latest war!

And still some think human migration is a new thing.


So exactly the same as me and Benters then.

Your descended from European hunter gatherer groups that roamed the Great European Plain (that roughly covered Europe from what is roughly now the West Coast of Ireland all the way to the far East of What is now Russia prior to the islands that make up UK and Ireland being cut off) hunting down large herds of bison etc.
It's just the majority of your mesolithic descendants were trapped in mainland Europe rather on these islands at the time of the ice caps melting. If that sorta makes sense?
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Another 700+ today on 16:22 - Apr 19 with 781 viewsBenters

Another 700+ today on 15:43 - Apr 19 by Swansea_Blue

Bollox. The Mesolithic Welsh are still around here - they all come out during the Six Nations. I bet they were defending their borders during the Mesolithic with their Cymru Am Byth bucket hats on and singing ‘always piss on the Doggerland side of the bridge, dah dah, dah dah dah dah dah dah’.


Bread of Heaven and all that.

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Another 700+ today on 16:26 - Apr 19 with 775 viewsleitrimblue

Another 700+ today on 15:43 - Apr 19 by Swansea_Blue

Bollox. The Mesolithic Welsh are still around here - they all come out during the Six Nations. I bet they were defending their borders during the Mesolithic with their Cymru Am Byth bucket hats on and singing ‘always piss on the Doggerland side of the bridge, dah dah, dah dah dah dah dah dah’.


I'm way to lazy to check, but have a horrible feeling that one of the first signs of human activity on what become these islands is from some cave in Wales.
Think it's a female skeleton covered in ochre from the Paleolithic I think. Would have been a female member of one of these hunter gather bands that travelled to the far West if the plain following those herds.
Might be in the West of England rather then Wales if were lucky
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Another 700+ today on 17:16 - Apr 19 with 702 viewsRyorry

Another 700+ today on 16:20 - Apr 19 by leitrimblue

So exactly the same as me and Benters then.

Your descended from European hunter gatherer groups that roamed the Great European Plain (that roughly covered Europe from what is roughly now the West Coast of Ireland all the way to the far East of What is now Russia prior to the islands that make up UK and Ireland being cut off) hunting down large herds of bison etc.
It's just the majority of your mesolithic descendants were trapped in mainland Europe rather on these islands at the time of the ice caps melting. If that sorta makes sense?


My brothers Leitrim & Benters :)

This obviously explains why I was inexorably drawn towards packs of buffalo meat for sale at a farmers' market about 5 years ago ...

Going back to something Dollers said a few posts ago - just caught the last 30 mins of an amazing radio drama taken from a 1-woman stage show 'The Fever' written by Wallace Shawn, starring Cate Blanchett. Shines a light on luck of/accidents of birth, but from the poverty v wealth & class angle - whose ancestors slaughtered more on which field of battle etc. Quite brutal but compelling listening which I couldn't switch away from.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002b6jj
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Another 700+ today on 17:52 - Apr 19 with 635 viewsDJR

What about those of us who, by careful breeding over millennia, have managed to keep our DNA 100% Neanderthal?
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