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What a tool! Laying into McKenna and the team. Apparently the tactics were all wrong, the display was insipid and we really should have gone more toe to toe with Arsenal yesterday. Clearly 7 Years away from managing in English football has clouded his judgment. If it’s all the same Al, I’ll trust the younger modern coaches.
Not sure he said we should have gone toe-to-toe more that we should have done more than just sit back and let them play. I think he's allowed to criticise KM tbf as KM won't get everything right.
Not sure he said we should have gone toe-to-toe more that we should have done more than just sit back and let them play. I think he's allowed to criticise KM tbf as KM won't get everything right.
I like McKenna but he isn't without criticism for this season by any means
I think whoever we fielded yesterday we would have comfortably lost but we are still quiet naive trying to push the likes of Clarke and Davis up the pitch against a team like Arsenal
Whether we'd offer anything going forward if we did take another approach is a different debate
I feel he probably has been found out tactically in the Prem be it against superior sides
The 4231 system feels like a trust the process policy at the moment, knowing in the Championship it will be successful again
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Alcohol is the answer but I can't remember the question!
As painful as his comments are, I think there us some relevance to what he's said. Mckenna has shown time and again. This season that he knows ( wants) to play one way. He could have been experimenting with his approach to games and differing formations. But no, it's two midfielders, one up front. No matter who we play. It's a definite weakness in his team management, and he demonstrates an inability ility to change tact within games too. Will he have learned personally from this season? Well see ( assuming he stays).
EDIT: Just read the article, he does not say toe to toe, in fact as an experienced football manager he makes no constructive suggestion as to how we should have played . . . it's easier being a so called pundit than posting on here . . .
Yes, should have gone toe to toe with the team that just put 5 past Real Madrid over 180 mins. Not sure toe to toe would have worked and could have been a cricket score.
Maybe we could have done more but people should also credit Arsenal for limiting what we were able to do. It’s not as if Arsenal sat back and gave us the chance, and anytime we did break they were able to snuff it out.
It’s easy to say we should have played it differently but I have yet to see anyone outline what that would have looked like with the squad we have available?!?
Not sure he said we should have gone toe-to-toe more that we should have done more than just sit back and let them play. I think he's allowed to criticise KM tbf as KM won't get everything right.
This is painful viewing. Players have to take responsibility.
This is painful viewing. Players have to take responsibility.
That was just bizarre defending, in the context of a second half where we had thrown everything at making it difficult for them to create anything. We defended that corner like traffic cones.
I was born underwater, I dried out in the sun.
I started humping volcanoes baby, when I was too young.
That was just bizarre defending, in the context of a second half where we had thrown everything at making it difficult for them to create anything. We defended that corner like traffic cones.
No pressure on the ball at all and four players in the middle marking nobody. For all the talk of systems and tactics and formations, there has to be some basic desire and some hustle. I get it. It’s been as miserable a season for the players as it has for us. They’re beaten up, getting smacked in the face every week. But still.
Can all pundits be wrong ? They all seem to be singing from the same hymn sheet when it comes to us being passive and style of play and set up being wrong. L would never question McKenna as a manager as he's been superb and pundits only look at what is on the pitch and not all the injuries we have sustained. I do however feel that we have maybe had too much emphasis put on purchases for the future and for their sell on price. I think you need to buy what is required and if they turn into a multi million pound player then that's great. For instance when we bought Philogene couldn't we really have done with a midfielder that was up to speed and ready to go rather than someone who lacked game time and looked a bit all at sea when he did come into the team. I'm not criticising him as a player, just questioning the logic.
Not sure he said we should have gone toe-to-toe more that we should have done more than just sit back and let them play. I think he's allowed to criticise KM tbf as KM won't get everything right.
Certainly allowed to criticise, he was of the opinion however that we were lacklustre, insipid and basically tactically inept. I agree that Kmc has got things wrong this season which is to be expected. The view and opinion of Stephen Warnock was far more balanced and educated as to what the club, team and manager have been up against in our First season back in 22 years.
Certainly allowed to criticise, he was of the opinion however that we were lacklustre, insipid and basically tactically inept. I agree that Kmc has got things wrong this season which is to be expected. The view and opinion of Stephen Warnock was far more balanced and educated as to what the club, team and manager have been up against in our First season back in 22 years.
First season back in the PL after 22 years and its demoralised everyone. But, hopefully the players and management will learn and we will be back in a couple years stronger and in much better shape for another crack at it.
you have to remember with being a talk show pundit, their stock in trade and what keeps them being asked back, is about being noticed, and so will absolutely accentuate things to the max, often the wrong things too and have alot of poor takes, just to be controversial, because it gets more people talking about them, more outrage, more callers in (if its a call in show like 606), more newspaper columnists filling space in a BH edition of a newspaper, to discuss.
than if he'd just said yeah Town didnt play well (stating the flipping obvious there too) but theres alot for the manager & team to learn from it.
Im sure he's being saying stupid things about other teams all season, we just havent noticed because none of it involved us specifically.
Can all pundits be wrong ? They all seem to be singing from the same hymn sheet when it comes to us being passive and style of play and set up being wrong. L would never question McKenna as a manager as he's been superb and pundits only look at what is on the pitch and not all the injuries we have sustained. I do however feel that we have maybe had too much emphasis put on purchases for the future and for their sell on price. I think you need to buy what is required and if they turn into a multi million pound player then that's great. For instance when we bought Philogene couldn't we really have done with a midfielder that was up to speed and ready to go rather than someone who lacked game time and looked a bit all at sea when he did come into the team. I'm not criticising him as a player, just questioning the logic.
The pundits are not necessarily wrong, but I don't see much from them as to what we should be doing vs what we are doing wrong.
It is easy to highlight what is wrong, and if anyone genuinely thinks that McKenna is playing the way he is because he is too stubborn to change things then they are mad - as I am 100% sure if that was the case, Gamechanger would have removed him.
Considering the resources we have available, what should have been the team on the pitch yesterday, and what could we have done differently that would have resulted in anything apart from the beating we received.
No pressure on the ball at all and four players in the middle marking nobody. For all the talk of systems and tactics and formations, there has to be some basic desire and some hustle. I get it. It’s been as miserable a season for the players as it has for us. They’re beaten up, getting smacked in the face every week. But still.
There was plenty of desire and hustle. But this isn’t the Championship or L1. There wasn’t the ability to bridge the gap in quality. You can run about and our players did, but when the opposition move the ball at pace, accurately, through, down the sides or over the top you need to have better players than we have. Especially in midfield.
Ok, so the opposition were poor, but Arsenal were excellent. Not many teams could have stopped that second goal and their general play was up there with Newcastle’s as the best team I’ve seen there this season.
Edit: As for Pardew, I couldn’t care a less what that annoying has-been has to say or any of the others putting the boot in. If they knew it all they’d still be managing rather than pontificating.
I don't think he's a tool at all. Why do we not close down the opposition when we don't have the ball? We let teams play with total freedom at times. At least make them work for it. Why haven't we tried two up front? Why do we stick to 4231 when it's not worked in the Premier? Why did we leave Burgess out yesterday?
There was plenty of desire and hustle. But this isn’t the Championship or L1. There wasn’t the ability to bridge the gap in quality. You can run about and our players did, but when the opposition move the ball at pace, accurately, through, down the sides or over the top you need to have better players than we have. Especially in midfield.
Ok, so the opposition were poor, but Arsenal were excellent. Not many teams could have stopped that second goal and their general play was up there with Newcastle’s as the best team I’ve seen there this season.
Edit: As for Pardew, I couldn’t care a less what that annoying has-been has to say or any of the others putting the boot in. If they knew it all they’d still be managing rather than pontificating.
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Go back and watch that goal again. That’s nothing to do with quality. It’s just pisspoor defending. Lazy, switched off, far too easy.
Obviously we’re always going to lose to better sides but we need to make it harder for them.
Listening to it I didn’t like it but hard to disagree. Pardew thought Town had enough about them to give it more of a go ( said few times over the season) .
This is painful viewing. Players have to take responsibility.
Ouch! No one in Arsenal’s faces harrying them - don’t get that - can anyone explain why? Seems so basic to me, but obviously I’ve never played professionally so perhaps I’m missing something?
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