| When did you lose faith in survival? 17:13 - Apr 26 with 3226 views | TractorWood |
West Ham away for me.
They were struggling and we got absolutely tonked bar a Delap goal out of nothing. |  |
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| When did you lose faith in survival? on 18:27 - Apr 26 with 922 views | Vaughan8 |
Everton at home wads the first game I saw and was an eye opener.
I dont think they played much better than us but they just nullified anything we did and were a lot stronger. Someone like Calvin Lewin who people think isn't very good, Ran our defence ragged.
The Sothampton loss at home is when relegation really.was a reality though. |  | | |
| When did you lose faith in survival? on 19:03 - Apr 26 with 881 views | BrayBlue |
Brentford away at the end of October. To more than match a decent, established PL side and come away with nowt felt like it knocked the stuffing out of us.
Cheers,
JK | | | |
| When did you lose faith in survival? on 19:03 - Apr 26 with 877 views | RegencyBlue |
| When did you lose faith in survival? on 17:15 - Apr 26 by Dubtractor |
Southampton at home. I thought it would be a struggle till that game, but it was nailed on for me after that game. |
Completely agree.
Came away from that match thinking we were done for and so it has proved! |  | | |
| When did you lose faith in survival? on 19:11 - Apr 26 with 863 views | TractorJack |
I won't say Southampton at home because we actually played OK and were let down massively by Muric and some poor finishing. We also bounced back well away at Villa and started really well at home to Spurs. What followed in that game and then away at Man U was an absolute mess. |  | | |
| When did you lose faith in survival? on 19:14 - Apr 26 with 852 views | Big_Jase |
The day we announced the signing of Aro Muric. |  |
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| When did you lose faith in survival? on 19:17 - Apr 26 with 835 views | Kieran_Knows |
| When did you lose faith in survival? on 18:27 - Apr 26 by Vaughan8 |
Everton at home wads the first game I saw and was an eye opener.
I dont think they played much better than us but they just nullified anything we did and were a lot stronger. Someone like Calvin Lewin who people think isn't very good, Ran our defence ragged.
The Sothampton loss at home is when relegation really.was a reality though. |
Yes, was the Everton home game for me as well. One of the few games before the season started that looked like we might be able to get points, and even though they’d been cr4p for a couple of years, the step up was evident that day.
Might’ve been different if Clarke hadn’t skied that chance…. |  |
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| When did you lose faith in survival? on 19:22 - Apr 26 with 816 views | TheBlueGnu |
When the players lined up in the Portman Road tunnel versus Liverpool. It was always going to be a massive huge task. | |
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| When did you lose faith in survival? on 19:27 - Apr 26 with 808 views | TractorWood |
| When did you lose faith in survival? on 19:22 - Apr 26 by TheBlueGnu |
When the players lined up in the Portman Road tunnel versus Liverpool. It was always going to be a massive huge task. |
I was heartened at Man Citeh away and Liverpool at home.
Citeh we're x 4 prem champions and CL winners. We nicked a goal and were arguably unlucky with 2 pen decisions.
Vs Liverpool we were excellent 1st half and Mo was superb 2nd. | |
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| When did you lose faith in survival? on 19:33 - Apr 26 with 789 views | Lower_North |
Spurs at home end of Feb.
Son ripped Godfrey a new one and it was just goodnight and thank ya. | | | |
| When did you lose faith in survival? on 19:36 - Apr 26 with 782 views | Swansea_Blue |
After about the first 7 years of marriage. Or do you mean the football? |  |
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| When did you lose faith in survival? on 19:39 - Apr 26 with 771 views | TheBoyBlue |
Southampton at home. We know how hard it is to pick up points in this division and this was as close to a gimme for 3 points that you'll get at this level and we blew it. It's not even as if Southampton played a blinder. Their confidence was on the floor, passes going astray all over the place and so easy to open up. If we'd played with the intensity that we have summoned up against the top teams then that would've been a comfortable afternoon, boosted our confidence and changed the discourse of the second half of the season. First time I've been angry with an Ipswich team for years. | |
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| When did you lose faith in survival? on 19:39 - Apr 26 with 771 views | Libero |
Southampton at Home showed we lacked the requisite experience and perhaps character. Since then I've never believed for more than a fleeting moment that we could get out of it. |  | | |
| When did you lose faith in survival? on 19:40 - Apr 26 with 769 views | Facefacts |
Any home game except Chelsea. We had Liverpool taking their battered central defender off at HT and still couldn't hurt them.
Away form has been good enough, but ruined by VAR and homer refs |  | | |
| When did you lose faith in survival? on 20:06 - Apr 26 with 732 views | UffordBlue |
Southampton (H) | | | |
| When did you lose faith in survival? on 20:38 - Apr 26 with 694 views | Herbivore |
Has to be Saints at home. Wolves had started to put some form together and we desperately needed the points to keep ourselves alive and sadly, Muric had a full Muric that night and we were wasteful in the final third and it completely killed us. Not that we'd have survived anyway looking at the size of the gap. |  |
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| When did you lose faith in survival? on 22:04 - Apr 26 with 610 views | Linners |
Yup, that was a big game for me as well, although even before that I could see we were way off it. |  | | |
| When did you lose faith in survival? on 00:27 - Apr 27 with 518 views | Bigalhunter |
Up until the end of the January transfer window, I’d bought into the general vibe on here that we just needed to be in touch with Leicester, Wolves, Everton, West Ham and Palace by the end of December
Bring in a few savvy reinforcements for 2025, push on and try to finish above two of them, with Southampton already doomed.
Barring the beatings from West Ham and Newcastle we’d been very competitive and had some momentum after beating Spurs, Wolves and Chelsea.
Once it became apparent that Godfrey, Philogene and Enciso were judged to be that little bit of extra oomph, I think a little bit of me gave up.
Barely 300 minutes of first team football and one League Cup goal between them.
The fact that we have subsequently regressed into an utterly naive and hapless punch bag ever since the Xmas trimmings came down, coupled with the vastly superior upgrades that Everton and Wolves made in their coaching departments, has turned out to be the real killer, but the real damage was done in January.
Even though West Ham have regressed by dumping Lopategui for Potter, they’ve still been able to watch us disappear in their rear view mirror.
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| When did you lose faith in survival? on 00:55 - Apr 27 with 488 views | itfc11 |
Never ever thought we would survive, but to finish potentially 6 -7 wins from safety is absolutely awful, where do these wins come from | | | |
| When did you lose faith in survival? on 07:06 - Apr 27 with 398 views | PioneerBlue |
| When did you lose faith in survival? on 17:21 - Apr 26 by pointofblue |
When I actually lost faith was Southampton at home. In hindsight, it should have been how we collapsed after going 1-0 down against Brighton, despite being in a game up to the moment they scored. We never recovered from that.
But in truth, we were down in the summer. We repeat Hurst's trick from 2018/19 - sign some good players from a lower level and expect them to good enough. We know how that worked back then, and history has simply repeated itself at a higher level. |
Great point, I hadn’t looked at it like that but see it. I HOPE the difference here is that whilst that might not have been the best short term survival strategy, it’s different here because the management and coaching base remains and the squad has untimely been lifted way about what it would have been going into a Year two in the championship ie we’d never have been able to buy these players without the PL investment. Only time will prove this out. | |
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| When did you lose faith in survival? on 07:11 - Apr 27 with 396 views | PioneerBlue |
| When did you lose faith in survival? on 19:39 - Apr 26 by Libero |
Southampton at Home showed we lacked the requisite experience and perhaps character. Since then I've never believed for more than a fleeting moment that we could get out of it. |
Reinjecting that character and reigniting that hunger and desire to win relentlessly is going to be the mark of whether KMck really takes off post ITFC. I’m sure it’s all there for him, the squad the backing to evolve squad where needed. We’ve done it once from L1 now we do it against from the Champ. | |
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| When did you lose faith in survival? on 07:16 - Apr 27 with 389 views | PioneerBlue |
| When did you lose faith in survival? on 00:55 - Apr 27 by itfc11 |
Never ever thought we would survive, but to finish potentially 6 -7 wins from safety is absolutely awful, where do these wins come from |
For us at PL level it looks like it would have been another 60-120 million of investment (right back able to play 30 plus games a season, both central midfielders, plus at least another forward that impacts games with goals) but for a stable championship side or parachute side with the squad intact it might have been doable with the right reinforcements and the budget we used. | |
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| When did you lose faith in survival? on 07:22 - Apr 27 with 376 views | Herbivore |
You lost faith in survival 7 games into the season even though up until new year we were well in touch? Wouldn't want you next to me in the trenches. | |
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| When did you lose faith in survival? on 07:33 - Apr 27 with 363 views | TractorWood |
| When did you lose faith in survival? on 07:22 - Apr 27 by Herbivore |
You lost faith in survival 7 games into the season even though up until new year we were well in touch? Wouldn't want you next to me in the trenches. |
What happened to the 'it was always going to be a challenge' revisionism if we were so in touch?
I'm more in Whitehall than in the trenches. | |
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| When did you lose faith in survival? on 08:01 - Apr 27 with 334 views | Herbivore |
| When did you lose faith in survival? on 07:33 - Apr 27 by TractorWood |
What happened to the 'it was always going to be a challenge' revisionism if we were so in touch?
I'm more in Whitehall than in the trenches. |
It can be true that it was always going to be a difficult job AND that we were in touch at new year. It's not an either/or situation. Part of the reason we were in touch was the Wolves had been horrific in the first half of the season but with the quality they have and the new manager getting them signing, they've pulled miles away from relegation. Meanwhile, we missed some good opportunities to pick up points and the gap grew and grew. So when you look at the quality of the sides we're competing with, yes it was always going to be a very tough ask and we needed everything to go perfectly to have a chance of staying up. And yes, we were in touch going into new year because of the respective points totals of ourselves and Wolves at that moment in time. I'm not sure you'd be much help in Whitehall either. | |
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