| Still think McKenna is as good as the hype that surrounded him? 17:42 - May 18 with 1370 views | wolfyattheback |
Very poor season, he's not been worth the huge wage that the club have put him on. Doubtful he would have survived at another club.
Needs to start the championship campaign much much stronger.
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| Still think McKenna is as good as the hype that surrounded him? on 17:43 - May 18 with 1327 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Absolutely.
We were much better bang average in League 1 under Lambert and Cook. |  |
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| Still think McKenna is as good as the hype that surrounded him? on 17:43 - May 18 with 1322 views | FifeITFC |
Yes, let's have another thread on this subject.
And for the record, I disagree with you. |  |
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| Still think McKenna is as good as the hype that surrounded him? on 17:44 - May 18 with 1304 views | redrickstuhaart |
I think he will have learnt an awful lot. What will be important now is whether he is flexible and recognises where the flaws are, or whether he thinks he can stick wholly with the existing approach.
He may well be able to form what we have into a quick attacking team again, but unless we change the physical profiles we would hit the wall again on promotion. | | | |
| Still think McKenna is as good as the hype that surrounded him? on 17:46 - May 18 with 1278 views | Blue_Heath |
He's a young manager, learning (I hope from this year), and is entitled to a bad season. Question is can he become a better manager for it or another manager who will disappear down the divisions.
This year has been poor there is no point pretending otherwise but the last two seasons were tremendous for the most part.
Agree that any other club would likely have sacked him but I am pleased we haven't. | | | |
| Still think McKenna is as good as the hype that surrounded him? on 17:49 - May 18 with 1207 views | lazyblue |
| Still think McKenna is as good as the hype that surrounded him? on 17:46 - May 18 by Blue_Heath |
He's a young manager, learning (I hope from this year), and is entitled to a bad season. Question is can he become a better manager for it or another manager who will disappear down the divisions.
This year has been poor there is no point pretending otherwise but the last two seasons were tremendous for the most part.
Agree that any other club would likely have sacked him but I am pleased we haven't. |
You learn far more when things go wrong | | | |
| Still think McKenna is as good as the hype that surrounded him? on 17:57 - May 18 with 1122 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
You think it's a good thing that another club would have got rid of him by now?
That's what's wrong with so many clubs, and fans that encourage it - the 'modern' way of sacking a manager at the first setback. Sir Alf and Sir Bobby would not have survived to oversea some of our Golden years if the owners/fans of the time had released them due to early struggles.
Some fans need to get a grip, and stop being such snowflakes. | | | |
| Still think McKenna is as good as the hype that surrounded him? on 18:01 - May 18 with 1059 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
I don’t think your question is as unfair as some might suggest but Ipswich will be actively trying to retain him this summer. We had the biggest spend window in our history by some margin and these are his players so it makes sense they will continue to back him. He’s also shown he can get a team out of the EFL. The gap between the Championship and PL is so huge that it’s almost an easy answer when discussing any short comings.
So I do think there’s an argument to say he’s had a pretty easy ride of it this year in terms of pressure being off, especially with how much he was backed both personally and in the transfer market.
That said he earned it with how he turned the club into a PL outfit with back to back promotions, he also did show incredibly loyalty when he was a very hot commodity, who knows if he regrets it now.
He gave the best seasons in our recent history, the gap is wide and it was always going to be hard to bridge from where we came from. You absolutely want him here next year, it’s the first season he will have serious pressure on him to succeed though. [Post edited 18 May 18:02]
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| Still think McKenna is as good as the hype that surrounded him? on 18:01 - May 18 with 1050 views | blueoutlook |
He is becoming very much a one trick pony. If that doesn’t work he doesn’t have a plan B. He has credit at the moment. Not sure how long that will last next season if we don’t get off to a decent start. |  | | |
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| Still think McKenna is as good as the hype that surrounded him? on 18:03 - May 18 with 1005 views | Vaughan8 |
This season he would have learnt a lot I'm sure. He can't be happy with how it's gone.
We seem to have got worse as the seasons gone on.
Our success was down to subs coming on and doing the business in a lot of games. This season we've not had the players for.that, against better players.
We had AAH as our only striker on the subs for months....!
So I think he's still a decent manager. Only time will tell. Having said that, If we are not in the top 6 after a few months he might have to go though. [Post edited 18 May 18:04]
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| Still think McKenna is as good as the hype that surrounded him? on 18:11 - May 18 with 910 views | jasondozzell |
Yes. We're lucky to have him. |  | | |
| Still think McKenna is as good as the hype that surrounded him? on 18:14 - May 18 with 882 views | davblue |
| Still think McKenna is as good as the hype that surrounded him? on 18:01 - May 18 by blueoutlook |
He is becoming very much a one trick pony. If that doesn’t work he doesn’t have a plan B. He has credit at the moment. Not sure how long that will last next season if we don’t get off to a decent start. |
I dont think it’s correct as we’ve adjusted our style of play without a shadow of a doubt. We don’t play out from the back half as much as we were earlier in the season. We’ve sat back more, it’s been a contrast to what we’ve seen before. [Post edited 18 May 19:07]
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| Still think McKenna is as good as the hype that surrounded him? on 18:19 - May 18 with 840 views | HighgateBlue |
I'm not sure that many people, even highly successful people, are as good as the hype may have you suggest. And one of KMac's great qualities is the knowledge that you're never as great as the hype, or as poor as the trashtalk. His even greater quality is his temperament to be able to live by that knowledge and not be drawn into knee jerk reactions. He is thoughtful and meticulous, he is an intelligent communicator. He is decent and seemingly pretty wise.
He has had a poor season, we know that. The task was Herculean, and maybe he came up a little short when trying to match Herculean standards. Maybe even a lot short. He is young and he was starting the race from a standing start (a much weaker squad than 17 other sides, and arguably 18 or 19).
Our transfer dealings have been patchy. Some big and important gambles failed (Muric, Phillips). We've had no plan B, we've made subs late, we've had a lot of injuries. We've spent a lot of money and gained fewer points than Luton.
But I think unless you really really take a very negative view of KMac, we have to do everything to keep him. He is great with an arm around a shoulder. He will nurture that team spirit back, he is great in the Championship, and on paper he has a stronger side this time.
Also, crucially, if we lose him now, what calibre of manager will we attract? If we lose him after a successful promotion season, we will attract a much better calibre. Anyone dreaming of attracting a Glasner, a Pereira or a Nuno Santo, we will only do that if we can offer Premier League football (and even then, we'd need the stars to align). Well run clubs who are on the up can cope with losing a successful coach (see Brighton). Clubs on the way down? I'm not so sure.
Yes, other clubs would have sacked him by now. More fool them. Consistency and having time to implement a plan is worth a lot. Chopping and changing is for children.
KMac has more than enough credit in the bank for it to be absolutely clear that we would be mad to let him go, or even be indifferent to his staying.
Nobody is either superhuman or greater than the Club, and we have the right to question the manager and his position, especially after the tame end to this season. But for me, when we do ask that question, the answer is that he is the best we have, the best we have had for a long time, and the best we're likely to have for a while. |  | | |
| Still think McKenna is as good as the hype that surrounded him? on 18:20 - May 18 with 818 views | jasondozzell |
| Still think McKenna is as good as the hype that surrounded him? on 18:19 - May 18 by HighgateBlue |
I'm not sure that many people, even highly successful people, are as good as the hype may have you suggest. And one of KMac's great qualities is the knowledge that you're never as great as the hype, or as poor as the trashtalk. His even greater quality is his temperament to be able to live by that knowledge and not be drawn into knee jerk reactions. He is thoughtful and meticulous, he is an intelligent communicator. He is decent and seemingly pretty wise.
He has had a poor season, we know that. The task was Herculean, and maybe he came up a little short when trying to match Herculean standards. Maybe even a lot short. He is young and he was starting the race from a standing start (a much weaker squad than 17 other sides, and arguably 18 or 19).
Our transfer dealings have been patchy. Some big and important gambles failed (Muric, Phillips). We've had no plan B, we've made subs late, we've had a lot of injuries. We've spent a lot of money and gained fewer points than Luton.
But I think unless you really really take a very negative view of KMac, we have to do everything to keep him. He is great with an arm around a shoulder. He will nurture that team spirit back, he is great in the Championship, and on paper he has a stronger side this time.
Also, crucially, if we lose him now, what calibre of manager will we attract? If we lose him after a successful promotion season, we will attract a much better calibre. Anyone dreaming of attracting a Glasner, a Pereira or a Nuno Santo, we will only do that if we can offer Premier League football (and even then, we'd need the stars to align). Well run clubs who are on the up can cope with losing a successful coach (see Brighton). Clubs on the way down? I'm not so sure.
Yes, other clubs would have sacked him by now. More fool them. Consistency and having time to implement a plan is worth a lot. Chopping and changing is for children.
KMac has more than enough credit in the bank for it to be absolutely clear that we would be mad to let him go, or even be indifferent to his staying.
Nobody is either superhuman or greater than the Club, and we have the right to question the manager and his position, especially after the tame end to this season. But for me, when we do ask that question, the answer is that he is the best we have, the best we have had for a long time, and the best we're likely to have for a while. |
Excellently put. | | | |
| Still think McKenna is as good as the hype that surrounded him? on 18:22 - May 18 with 799 views | Ryorry |
Have you forgotten about how incredibly handicapped we've been by injuries this season?
How often has KM had the chance to put out the same choice of key starters in even two consecutive games, despite a whole raft of new signings? |  |
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| Still think McKenna is as good as the hype that surrounded him? on 18:27 - May 18 with 748 views | itfc_statman |
| Still think McKenna is as good as the hype that surrounded him? on 18:11 - May 18 by jasondozzell |
Yes. We're lucky to have him. |
I think the pendulum has swung a bit and he is equally lucky to have us.
The next 12 months will likely represent the most important in Mckennas managerial future.
After all, Paul Lambert managed back to back promotions + survival at the top level with a 10th of our spend. He never kicked on and it's possible that McKenna doesn't either. | | | |
| Still think McKenna is as good as the hype that surrounded him? on 18:28 - May 18 with 741 views | warky_1970 |
He’s definitely learned a lot this season.
Is he ready for the prem? Probably not. Never played at that level for long if at all did he ? Certainly his management at that level has proven too soon.
Is he the right man for us right now ? ABSOLUTELY !
He’s proven to be at the very least a top league 1 manager and did a fantastic job in the Championship too.
Is our squad prem level ? Not a chance. He’ll have learned a LOT this season and I am sure will have shown our owners that if they want sustained Prem status it’s going to cost them a LOT more than £150m.
I couldn’t choose a better manager for us right now. [Post edited 18 May 18:29]
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| Still think McKenna is as good as the hype that surrounded him? on 21:23 - May 18 with 381 views | SitfcB |
Had so much credit in the bank this season was basically a free hit, yes we all had expectations and hopes but it’s just not gone how we had hoped, we really shouldn’t have been in this league so soon after him coming in, but what happened happened and it was bloody brilliant.
A young manager, only in his third full season and having to take on the challenge of the PL, no one more than the man himself will say how many lessons he’s learnt this season, he’ll know he’s made mistakes here and then I’m sure, he will reflect privately about those and other things.
Re-set next season, go again - did say earlier we need a good fast start, but that’s the same as any season and under any manager. |  |
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