| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 09:11 - Jun 13 with 4344 views | DanTheMan |
I think whether we keep hold of him will come down to whether we keep hold of McKenna. |  |
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| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 09:11 - Jun 13 with 4342 views | bluejacko |
Shock horror isn’t it? Fancy a young England player playing well for his country,bloody outrageous! |  | | |
| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 09:20 - Jun 13 with 4195 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
Behind a paywall, what's the gist? |  |
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| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 09:22 - Jun 13 with 4164 views | StokieBlue |
Apparently he's got a 35m release clause so it'll be what it'll be.
If someone is willing to pay that then not much at can do but it's a good transfer pot.
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| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 09:27 - Jun 13 with 4025 views | SitfcB |
| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 09:20 - Jun 13 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Behind a paywall, what's the gist? |
If you’re on an iPhone then hit reader mode before it loads and you can read the article. Works for most paywall sites.
Other phone makes I’m not so sure if it has that setting etc. |  |
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| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 09:27 - Jun 13 with 4024 views | _clive_baker_ |
Ashton seemed to imply in his recent interview with Stu Watson that there will be a couple of departures, presumably referring to the bigger tickets. It wouldn't surprise me, rarely does a relegated club only lose 1 and although we're presumably water tight from a PSR perspective, I did have in my head that we would bring in c. £60m this summer in player sales. I reckon it's Delap + 1, and that 1 can only really be 1 of Davis, Omari or O'Shea if we're going to get a fee of £20m+. Omari would be the last one I would want to see leave, but probably the one we could get the most money for.
No doubt a few smaller and less regrettable moves on top like Muric, H. Clarke, Al-Hamadi etc to the highest bidders.
IF we can keep hold of Omari we'll have some fire power next season with Philogene, Jack Clarke, Szmodics, Broadhead, Chaplin in the mix. |  | | |
| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 09:27 - Jun 13 with 4012 views | SitfcB |
He’s definitely in the shop window even more because of this tournament ffs.
Would be a big loss. Bigger than Delap.
Really hope he stays. | |
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| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 09:34 - Jun 13 with 3886 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 09:27 - Jun 13 by SitfcB |
He’s definitely in the shop window even more because of this tournament ffs.
Would be a big loss. Bigger than Delap.
Really hope he stays. |
He absolutely took the p!ss at the back end of 23/24. He would be ridiculous for us next season. The one I really, really don't want to see leave. | | | |
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| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 09:34 - Jun 13 with 3889 views | portmanking |
I think he's a goner if he carries on playing like that. £35m will be a snip for a Forest or a Brighton.
Nevertheless, £65m in the bank (on the P&L sheet) and we keep everyone else... we'd probably take that, no? I know we've been talking to Kwame Poku's agent for the best part of a year, I wonder if he comes into the equation if we can sell Omari early enough? | | | |
| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 09:36 - Jun 13 with 3852 views | thebooks |
| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 09:20 - Jun 13 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Behind a paywall, what's the gist? |
- Delap went to Chelsea, Hutchinson is the obvious next Town player to move on
- He and Livaremento were England’s best players
- Identifies his really strong dribbling from deep
- How he dovetailed really well with Livaremento
- Implies he’s also a good team player who will take on a manager’s instructions |  | | |
| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 09:39 - Jun 13 with 3765 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 09:34 - Jun 13 by portmanking |
I think he's a goner if he carries on playing like that. £35m will be a snip for a Forest or a Brighton.
Nevertheless, £65m in the bank (on the P&L sheet) and we keep everyone else... we'd probably take that, no? I know we've been talking to Kwame Poku's agent for the best part of a year, I wonder if he comes into the equation if we can sell Omari early enough? |
£65m won't hit our P&L for PSR purposes, it'll be more like £25-30m in profit on disposal for Delap/Omari.
I wonder if Rak-Sakyi is another one we go back for permanantly too. | | | |
| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 09:40 - Jun 13 with 3742 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 09:27 - Jun 13 by SitfcB |
He’s definitely in the shop window even more because of this tournament ffs.
Would be a big loss. Bigger than Delap.
Really hope he stays. |
Keep. At. All. Costs. |  |
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| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 09:41 - Jun 13 with 3731 views | portmanking |
| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 09:40 - Jun 13 by Kieran_Knows |
Keep. At. All. Costs. |
We won't have a choice if someone hits his release clause! | | | |
| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 09:41 - Jun 13 with 3724 views | PioneerBlue |
Player trading innit. This is part of the club build. We should be delighted to have players we can buy for 20 and trade for 30+++ this is how the club can build and sustain itself whilst the academy has run dry. | |
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| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 09:43 - Jun 13 with 3697 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 09:41 - Jun 13 by portmanking |
We won't have a choice if someone hits his release clause! |
Do you think someone triggers it? All in one hit?
As you keep seeing in football now, most teams pay over odds when it comes to release clauses so they can stage the payments over a number of years (how most transfer fees operate).
So we either get £35m in one hit - which I don't think anyone pays. Or, we get £40-£45m based upon a normal transfer. | |
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| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 09:43 - Jun 13 with 3685 views | Herbivore |
Think it's very 50/50 whether we can keep him here. If someone meets his release clause you suspect it's game over, he won't want to spend a season back in the Championship if he has another offer on the table. I would hope we wouldn't let him go unless his release clause is met and £35m (possibly with a sell on as with Delap) certainly wouldn't be an awful bit of business and would give us some scope to really strengthen the squad. I'd be gutted though, I love Omari. Such a good player and seeing his development over the past couple of years has been a joy. |  |
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| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 09:46 - Jun 13 with 3615 views | vilanovablue |
| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 09:43 - Jun 13 by Herbivore |
Think it's very 50/50 whether we can keep him here. If someone meets his release clause you suspect it's game over, he won't want to spend a season back in the Championship if he has another offer on the table. I would hope we wouldn't let him go unless his release clause is met and £35m (possibly with a sell on as with Delap) certainly wouldn't be an awful bit of business and would give us some scope to really strengthen the squad. I'd be gutted though, I love Omari. Such a good player and seeing his development over the past couple of years has been a joy. |
Whilst I really want us to keep Omari, I don't think £35 million can be sniffed at and would be a very good return. |  | | |
| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 09:52 - Jun 13 with 3504 views | BlueBlood90 |
| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 09:22 - Jun 13 by StokieBlue |
Apparently he's got a 35m release clause so it'll be what it'll be.
If someone is willing to pay that then not much at can do but it's a good transfer pot.
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£35m sounds good for us but don't forget Chelsea will most likely have a 20-30% sell on clause as well.
Unfortunately £35m isn't a huge amount to Premier League clubs anymore and Omari is far too talented for nobody to take a punt on him. |  |
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| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 09:58 - Jun 13 with 3390 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 09:41 - Jun 13 by PioneerBlue |
Player trading innit. This is part of the club build. We should be delighted to have players we can buy for 20 and trade for 30+++ this is how the club can build and sustain itself whilst the academy has run dry. |
Big pots of cash don't score goals. Ideally we need to keep and develop young talented players in order to be more ready for the Prem next time. | |
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| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 10:00 - Jun 13 with 3362 views | itfcjoe |
Fantastic player and one I think will be the hardest to hold on to - but we'll see how it goes.
Ideally playing as well as he did last night in a massive shop window wouldn't be happening! [Post edited 13 Jun 10:00]
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| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 10:01 - Jun 13 with 3319 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 09:52 - Jun 13 by BlueBlood90 |
£35m sounds good for us but don't forget Chelsea will most likely have a 20-30% sell on clause as well.
Unfortunately £35m isn't a huge amount to Premier League clubs anymore and Omari is far too talented for nobody to take a punt on him. |
I dunno. It's still a fairly large number when you can get someone from Europe with more games/experience/goals for half the price.
People were worried about Bournemouth coming for Davis when Kerkez goes but they are close to signing a guy 2 years younger with 150 Ligue 1 appearances and a France cap for €15m. | | | |
| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 10:01 - Jun 13 with 3315 views | BseaBlue |
| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 09:43 - Jun 13 by Herbivore |
Think it's very 50/50 whether we can keep him here. If someone meets his release clause you suspect it's game over, he won't want to spend a season back in the Championship if he has another offer on the table. I would hope we wouldn't let him go unless his release clause is met and £35m (possibly with a sell on as with Delap) certainly wouldn't be an awful bit of business and would give us some scope to really strengthen the squad. I'd be gutted though, I love Omari. Such a good player and seeing his development over the past couple of years has been a joy. |
It seems crazy that within this thread we are discussing whether £35million quid is enough/worth it for one of our players! You'd never have thought this possible a few years ago. Goes to show that KM has really changed the fortunes of the whole club by taking us to the Prem.
Personally, I think we will be very lucky to find someone as effective if we sell him but you can only hope that between Delap and Hutch, it might be a Dyer situation where we have enough behind us to strengthen significantly. |  | | |
| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 10:02 - Jun 13 with 3294 views | cvillageblue |
I agree. But he is playing againt Czechia u21s
Not exactly the type of team analysts would use to decide whether he is worth his 35m release clause. | |
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| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 10:06 - Jun 13 with 3206 views | TractorJack |
I think a prem team is bound to take a punt. The only saving grace is that we have JP with possibly just as much potential. |  | | |
| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 10:18 - Jun 13 with 3064 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Hmm, The Athletic framing Omari’s performance on 09:39 - Jun 13 by tractorboy1978 |
£65m won't hit our P&L for PSR purposes, it'll be more like £25-30m in profit on disposal for Delap/Omari.
I wonder if Rak-Sakyi is another one we go back for permanantly too. |
I make that about right. If we got £35m for Omari and Chelsea have a 20% of profit clause we would presumably net somewhere in the region of £12m - £15m on him.
The other factor is the wage bill, I'd imagine Omari and Delap were up there among the higher earners. I think Ben Johnson might be an attractive trade if we can get some money for him, he signed on a free so would deliver some PSR upside, and no doubt his wages are high.
I'd be interested to know how auditors approach IAS 36 impairment of intangible assets when it comes to football / players. Its quite a niche industry and I'm not sure how its tested in the real world.
Presumably there's an argument in a couple of instances for impairment losses. Ogbene perhaps given his significant injury, Muric's loss of form. Presumably very subjective and difficult to quantify. | | | |
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