| SheffW 22:37 - Jul 1 with 3845 views | itfc_bucks |
Looking unlikely to pay players again this month. Free agents in two weeks, apparently.
Genuinely no idea about them, is there likely to be anyone we would harbour any interest in? |  | | |  |
| SheffW on 22:40 - Jul 1 with 3343 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Any of David Hirst, Chris Waddle or Paolo Dicanio.
Other than that, maybe their 23yo keeper. |  |
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| SheffW on 08:37 - Jul 2 with 2697 views | urbanpenguin |
I'm not sure how the club can survive, and a huge history would be lost.
The owner won't put more money in, there's another transfer embargo, and now staff can leave for free as they've not been paid for two consecutive months. Apparently the manager, Danny Rohl, didn't turn up to training, and neither have many players.
How this owner passed the fit and proper persons test.
.. we are very lucky! |  | | |
| SheffW on 08:40 - Jul 2 with 2674 views | SheffordBlue |
| SheffW on 08:37 - Jul 2 by urbanpenguin |
I'm not sure how the club can survive, and a huge history would be lost.
The owner won't put more money in, there's another transfer embargo, and now staff can leave for free as they've not been paid for two consecutive months. Apparently the manager, Danny Rohl, didn't turn up to training, and neither have many players.
How this owner passed the fit and proper persons test.
.. we are very lucky! |
The fit and proper persons test only looks at legal conditions such as certain unspent convictions, already being bankrupt or insolvent or being barred from being a director of a business. It makes no judgement on whether they are 'good'.
Also worth pointing out that the early years of Chansiri as an owner were quite different to what's going on now - probably because he had more cash from his other business to chuck at a football club. [Post edited 2 Jul 9:34]
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| SheffW on 09:00 - Jul 2 with 2565 views | tractorboy1978 |
| SheffW on 08:40 - Jul 2 by SheffordBlue |
The fit and proper persons test only looks at legal conditions such as certain unspent convictions, already being bankrupt or insolvent or being barred from being a director of a business. It makes no judgement on whether they are 'good'.
Also worth pointing out that the early years of Chansiri as an owner were quite different to what's going on now - probably because he had more cash from his other business to chuck at a football club. [Post edited 2 Jul 9:34]
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Absolutely. How are the FA supposed to know if years down the line an owner will stop paying players/staff or run the club into financial ruin? Mel Morris is an example of someone who would tick every box of any test but he ended up putting Derby into dire straits. | | | |
| SheffW on 09:14 - Jul 2 with 2469 views | Kieran_Knows |
Pierce Charles - 19 year old keeper and full Northern Ireland international is someone I know we have an interest in, and has been linked with some fairly big clubs so now might be the time to get him! |  |
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| SheffW on 09:14 - Jul 2 with 2464 views | Swansea_Blue |
| SheffW on 08:37 - Jul 2 by urbanpenguin |
I'm not sure how the club can survive, and a huge history would be lost.
The owner won't put more money in, there's another transfer embargo, and now staff can leave for free as they've not been paid for two consecutive months. Apparently the manager, Danny Rohl, didn't turn up to training, and neither have many players.
How this owner passed the fit and proper persons test.
.. we are very lucky! |
There's seemingly little the EFL can do now either while we all watch him desroy the club in real time - https://www.sportupdates.co.uk/where-dejphon-chansiri-the-owner-of-sheffield-wed
The legal basis seems to give Chansiri a lot of leeway to fail the club, but is what it is I suppose.
That article talks about administration being the best option to resolve things. |  |
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| SheffW on 09:18 - Jul 2 with 2421 views | flykickingbybgunn |
Very sad for their supporters.
We have been very lucky over the years. Especially the Cobbolds.
And yes even Evans. I know it got dire in the end but when he sold us he took a huge hit so that Gamechanger would have a clean sheet. For that I believe he deserves credit. |  | | |
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| SheffW on 10:00 - Jul 2 with 2153 views | football |
Shame we are not playing then early on as we could thump them (again). But given they can't buy anyone most clubs should do well against them this season. Can see them being relegated if not folding completely | | | |
| SheffW on 12:09 - Jul 2 with 1774 views | Ralphinho |
| SheffW on 10:00 - Jul 2 by football |
Shame we are not playing then early on as we could thump them (again). But given they can't buy anyone most clubs should do well against them this season. Can see them being relegated if not folding completely |
What happens if they do fold? One less team getting relegated? An extra one promoted (from L1)? Surely the knock ons would be felt throughout the entire EFL... | |
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| SheffW on 12:20 - Jul 2 with 1707 views | tonybied |
| SheffW on 12:09 - Jul 2 by Ralphinho |
What happens if they do fold? One less team getting relegated? An extra one promoted (from L1)? Surely the knock ons would be felt throughout the entire EFL... |
I would expect an extra team would be promoted from each level below. |  | | |
| SheffW on 12:23 - Jul 2 with 1684 views | football |
| SheffW on 12:20 - Jul 2 by tonybied |
I would expect an extra team would be promoted from each level below. |
Suspect this also | | | |
| SheffW on 12:32 - Jul 2 with 1599 views | Zx1988 |
| SheffW on 12:09 - Jul 2 by Ralphinho |
What happens if they do fold? One less team getting relegated? An extra one promoted (from L1)? Surely the knock ons would be felt throughout the entire EFL... |
Will the EFL not seek assurances about the club's ability to both start and see out the season, in much the same way as they did with Bury a few seasons back?
They'll probably want to avoid any situation where the club disappears during the course of the season, with the consequences of their disappearance having to be unpicked. | |
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| SheffW on 13:32 - Jul 2 with 1420 views | football |
| SheffW on 12:32 - Jul 2 by Zx1988 |
Will the EFL not seek assurances about the club's ability to both start and see out the season, in much the same way as they did with Bury a few seasons back?
They'll probably want to avoid any situation where the club disappears during the course of the season, with the consequences of their disappearance having to be unpicked. |
think it will be telling how many players have handed in their 15 day letters to the club allowing them to leave. Looking on their site, many believe this will be several and they may not have a team to field, unless they raid the academy. Then there is match day staff and police who wont come unless they are paid, and that hasn't been happening. If he does sell up, maybe we can persuade him to go and buy that lot up the road | | | |
| SheffW on 13:46 - Jul 2 with 1359 views | EastTownBlue |
| SheffW on 12:32 - Jul 2 by Zx1988 |
Will the EFL not seek assurances about the club's ability to both start and see out the season, in much the same way as they did with Bury a few seasons back?
They'll probably want to avoid any situation where the club disappears during the course of the season, with the consequences of their disappearance having to be unpicked. |
Not sure who they would promote, the highest placed team or the play off final losers ?
With Bury it was a 44 match season (or would have been if Covid hadn’t intervened). Although that was after the season had started. Now the fixtures are out it will probably be the case of not replacing them and altering the promotion/relegation places for the season. | | | |
| SheffW on 14:03 - Jul 2 with 1282 views | Zx1988 |
| SheffW on 13:46 - Jul 2 by EastTownBlue |
Not sure who they would promote, the highest placed team or the play off final losers ?
With Bury it was a 44 match season (or would have been if Covid hadn’t intervened). Although that was after the season had started. Now the fixtures are out it will probably be the case of not replacing them and altering the promotion/relegation places for the season. |
Looks like it could be a toss-up between a Bury-type situation, where the club folds, or a Bolton-type situation, where they lose a lot of the playing staff, but soldier on with kids. | |
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| SheffW on 14:12 - Jul 2 with 1240 views | ronnyd |
| SheffW on 12:20 - Jul 2 by tonybied |
I would expect an extra team would be promoted from each level below. |
Then the team relegated from the Champ would be up in arms. | | | |
| SheffW on 14:26 - Jul 2 with 1167 views | ArnieM |
Are they likely to be able to start the season? |  |
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| SheffW on 14:31 - Jul 2 with 1133 views | BlueOura |
| SheffW on 09:18 - Jul 2 by flykickingbybgunn |
Very sad for their supporters.
We have been very lucky over the years. Especially the Cobbolds.
And yes even Evans. I know it got dire in the end but when he sold us he took a huge hit so that Gamechanger would have a clean sheet. For that I believe he deserves credit. |
Agreed, and this is what Chansiri should do. If he no longer has the funds and/or interest then he should do the right thing and find a decent buyer, even if it's for a figure below what he considers optimum.
The problem is that if you are a total c**t, as he appears to be, then 'doing the right thing' doesn't really enter the equation. |  | | |
| SheffW on 16:39 - Jul 2 with 903 views | tonybied |
| SheffW on 14:12 - Jul 2 by ronnyd |
Then the team relegated from the Champ would be up in arms. |
I mean, 2 teams get relegated and 3 teams are promoted. This would repeat at each level down from the Championship to the bottom of the pyramid, or until where the FA decide a phoenix Wednesday club (if one is formed) would be slotted in.
Why would any teams appose this at the time it was proposed? It effectively means a relegation slot has already been taken and the chances of survival have been improved from a normal season. If you finish in the bottom 2 you can hardly argue you shouldn't be relegated from the league because one club has gone to the wall. | | | |
| SheffW on 16:53 - Jul 2 with 836 views | braveblue |
| SheffW on 09:18 - Jul 2 by flykickingbybgunn |
Very sad for their supporters.
We have been very lucky over the years. Especially the Cobbolds.
And yes even Evans. I know it got dire in the end but when he sold us he took a huge hit so that Gamechanger would have a clean sheet. For that I believe he deserves credit. |
If you take over a business and grind it into the ground over 10 years through awful decisions you deserve no credit. | | | |
| SheffW on 16:58 - Jul 2 with 810 views | monty_radio |
| SheffW on 12:20 - Jul 2 by tonybied |
I would expect an extra team would be promoted from each level below. |
So, re L1, how would they choose between Stockport, who finished third, or Wycombe, who finished fifth, but got to the final without playing Stockport?
If those two played off it would have to wait until they were up to match fitness, say, a week before fixtures started. And still the ramifications for the already printed fixture list and either of the successful clubs' wage and transfer policy would be huge. | |
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| SheffW on 17:08 - Jul 2 with 772 views | gosblue |
| SheffW on 08:40 - Jul 2 by SheffordBlue |
The fit and proper persons test only looks at legal conditions such as certain unspent convictions, already being bankrupt or insolvent or being barred from being a director of a business. It makes no judgement on whether they are 'good'.
Also worth pointing out that the early years of Chansiri as an owner were quite different to what's going on now - probably because he had more cash from his other business to chuck at a football club. [Post edited 2 Jul 9:34]
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He was putting money in. Fans told him to F off. He then refused to put in any more of his own money. Fan Power. Club to be renamed Sheffield Sunday League FC. Me and my missus were almost caught up in it when their lads tried to ambush our lads after the game at Hillsborough. That almost stopped my missus wanting to go to any more games, so good riddance. | | | |
| SheffW on 17:42 - Jul 2 with 680 views | tonybied |
| SheffW on 16:58 - Jul 2 by monty_radio |
So, re L1, how would they choose between Stockport, who finished third, or Wycombe, who finished fifth, but got to the final without playing Stockport?
If those two played off it would have to wait until they were up to match fitness, say, a week before fixtures started. And still the ramifications for the already printed fixture list and either of the successful clubs' wage and transfer policy would be huge. |
It would happen at the end of this season, not based on last season, that would just be bonkers! The Championship would just be a 44 game season this year. | | | |
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