| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal 19:11 - Aug 5 with 10617 views | Zonderman |
If true that’s pretty poor form. I get where they are coming from as apparently they need some cash but not a great way of conducting business all the same. |  | | |  |
| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:12 - Aug 5 with 6239 views | homer_123 |
They are well within their rights, not poor form at all.
Frustrating for us but perfectly normal stuff. |  |
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| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:14 - Aug 5 with 6149 views | Zonderman |
| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:12 - Aug 5 by homer_123 |
They are well within their rights, not poor form at all.
Frustrating for us but perfectly normal stuff. |
As I wrote, I see exactly where they are coming from….. | | | |
| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:15 - Aug 5 with 6088 views | homer_123 |
| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:14 - Aug 5 by Zonderman |
As I wrote, I see exactly where they are coming from….. |
If you see where they are coming from, it's not poor form is it? | |
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| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:15 - Aug 5 with 6042 views | itfckenty |
Tbh, they can decline the move, but it doesn't mean he has to agree to move to Birmingham. Could end up shooting themselves in the feet |  | | |
| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:16 - Aug 5 with 5990 views | Zonderman |
| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:15 - Aug 5 by homer_123 |
If you see where they are coming from, it's not poor form is it? |
I always thought that understanding a position but disagreeing with it are two different things. That’s obviously changed now. Thanks for bringing me up to speed. | | | |
| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:20 - Aug 5 with 5812 views | pointofblue |
| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:12 - Aug 5 by homer_123 |
They are well within their rights, not poor form at all.
Frustrating for us but perfectly normal stuff. |
Legally they're well within they're rights. Morally - for want of better word - it stinks. | |
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| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:20 - Aug 5 with 5813 views | gainsboroughblue |
Absolutely no surprise there. As soon as Brum upped the ante, it was obvious Ajax would smell the money.
I feel sorry for Akpom in all this to be honest. Poor fecker must be wondering what day it is. |  |
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| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:22 - Aug 5 with 5732 views | homer_123 |
| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:16 - Aug 5 by Zonderman |
I always thought that understanding a position but disagreeing with it are two different things. That’s obviously changed now. Thanks for bringing me up to speed. |
Consider us in Ajax's position.
A small fee for a loan, with no guarantee to buy after the loan. Which we initially accept, then an offer comes in for said player, a reasonable transfer fee, albeit slightly lower than the agreed price after the loan (depending on promotion).
We'd be churlish to turn that down regardless of accepting the loan and then refusing. | |
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| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:23 - Aug 5 with 5654 views | Smoresy |
| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:15 - Aug 5 by homer_123 |
If you see where they are coming from, it's not poor form is it? |
It is because of the impact it has on the player. I can't think of many occasions when a player has received permission to undergo a medical at a club only to be told they can no longer go there. | | | |
| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:23 - Aug 5 with 5606 views | homer_123 |
| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:20 - Aug 5 by pointofblue |
Legally they're well within they're rights. Morally - for want of better word - it stinks. |
Does it? I don't think so - that's business.
What would stink is if they accepted the loan, the player travels pass the medical and then they say no to the loan - with no other deal in place. Just decide not to let the player go.
Although, if they lost a couple of players to injury, could you begrudge them? | |
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| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:25 - Aug 5 with 5515 views | djgooder |
| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:15 - Aug 5 by itfckenty |
Tbh, they can decline the move, but it doesn't mean he has to agree to move to Birmingham. Could end up shooting themselves in the feet |
Would be unusual to shoot both feet! |  | | |
| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:25 - Aug 5 with 5456 views | BloomBlue |
Brum probably don't want him now, just playing a game to stop Town registering him in-time for Friday's game. |  | | |
| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:26 - Aug 5 with 5447 views | pointofblue |
| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:23 - Aug 5 by homer_123 |
Does it? I don't think so - that's business.
What would stink is if they accepted the loan, the player travels pass the medical and then they say no to the loan - with no other deal in place. Just decide not to let the player go.
Although, if they lost a couple of players to injury, could you begrudge them? |
Or if a transfer fell through, which left them short. That would be understandable. We may have to do the same with Broadhead and Wrexham until something else is sorted out. | |
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| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:27 - Aug 5 with 5374 views | itfckenty |
| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:25 - Aug 5 by djgooder |
Would be unusual to shoot both feet! |
Shotgun. Haha | | | |
| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:28 - Aug 5 with 5297 views | homer_123 |
| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:26 - Aug 5 by pointofblue |
Or if a transfer fell through, which left them short. That would be understandable. We may have to do the same with Broadhead and Wrexham until something else is sorted out. |
"Or if a transfer fell through, which left them short."
Indeed - don't get me wrong - it's frustrating from our perspective for sure but I don't think it's poor form from Ajax. | |
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| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:29 - Aug 5 with 5243 views | djgooder |
Obviously why we haven’t heard from the club re akpom, wonder why we haven’t heard re Cajuste? Silence isn’t helpful!
Couldn’t we go from two signing to none ?? | | | |
| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:29 - Aug 5 with 5242 views | JakeITFC |
Other than the principle of it, I’m not sure that we’d really be much worse off from a liability/value perspective by committing to a permanent deal at £6m v a loan with obligation (with an upfront loan fee and £7m on promotion).
The discount surely offsets any liability of him being on our books for a year at this divisions revenue levels. [Post edited 5 Aug 19:32]
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| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:30 - Aug 5 with 5165 views | itfcsuth |
Not ideal - but it’s business, and especially in the business of football, nothing surprises me.
I suppose the problem with a permanent deal is the wages, if we were to stay in the Championship beyond next season.
I think if we are obligating to sign the player permanently in the PL, we’d obviously have him permanently in the Champ.
Really like him, really keen to have him, see how it plays out. |  | | |
| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:31 - Aug 5 with 5117 views | Kievthegreat |
| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:28 - Aug 5 by homer_123 |
"Or if a transfer fell through, which left them short."
Indeed - don't get me wrong - it's frustrating from our perspective for sure but I don't think it's poor form from Ajax. |
To use an analogy, if I've agreed to buy a house, had the surveyors check it out, got the solicitors to get the paperwork in place, I think it would be poor form if the seller put it back on the market.
Still within their rights to do so though. |  | | |
| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:31 - Aug 5 with 5126 views | Bellevue_Blue |
That's not the latest from Ben Jacobs ...
Sounds like Ashton and the Akpom playing hardball with him in town
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| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:36 - Aug 5 with 4940 views | homer_123 |
| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:31 - Aug 5 by Kievthegreat |
To use an analogy, if I've agreed to buy a house, had the surveyors check it out, got the solicitors to get the paperwork in place, I think it would be poor form if the seller put it back on the market.
Still within their rights to do so though. |
Interesting.
If it went back on the market with no other offer available having agreed to sell to you, yes, poor form.
If a better offer came in and the seller chose the better offer, then no. | |
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| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:44 - Aug 5 with 4731 views | Kievthegreat |
| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:36 - Aug 5 by homer_123 |
Interesting.
If it went back on the market with no other offer available having agreed to sell to you, yes, poor form.
If a better offer came in and the seller chose the better offer, then no. |
Even when you're at your solicitors and ready to exchange on the day? Which we effectively are if Akpom is still in Ipswich as reported. | | | |
| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:48 - Aug 5 with 4619 views | homer_123 |
| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:44 - Aug 5 by Kievthegreat |
Even when you're at your solicitors and ready to exchange on the day? Which we effectively are if Akpom is still in Ipswich as reported. |
If the Exchange of Contract hasn't taken place, my point remains.
If the seller merely pulls out at that juncture, without having anyone else to sell to, poor form.
Up until that point, you always run the risk of a better offer coming in and therefore losing the house.
After Exchange, that's a legal binding contract and neither party can pull out within legal ramifications. We weren't at that point.
EDIT: I'll repeat what I said earlier regarding the loan situation. It's frustrating, 100%. [Post edited 5 Aug 19:49]
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| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:56 - Aug 5 with 4415 views | ArnieM |
It seems that just about very transfer deal this summer for us has turned into a fiasco. Whats the common denominator......? |  |
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| Ajax now rumoured not to be sanctioning an Akpom loan deal on 19:57 - Aug 5 with 4405 views | southnorfolkblue |
That’s business.
Didn’t we do something similar to Michael Jacobs? Had him pass a medical and agreed terms, only to change our minds.
Don’t have an issue with this at all personally. | |
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