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These anti migrant protests 18:27 - Aug 9 with 1763 viewsnoggin

Why do so many of the protesters, who are "not racist", drape themselves in union flags and St. George's crosses? How does that protect the children, in any way?

Also, don't they see the irony of singing "Rule Britannia, Britannia Rules The Waves", then complaining about being invaded?
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These anti migrant protests on 18:29 - Aug 9 with 1708 viewsJ2BLUE

No idea but they shouldn't be allowed to hijack the meaning of the flags.

Truly impaired.
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These anti migrant protests on 18:38 - Aug 9 with 1640 viewsDJR

Gimme a country that's red white and blue
Gimme the British way honest and true
Gimme the chance to be one of the few
Gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme

Cos, I'm all right, I'm all right
Union Jack, fly the flag

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These anti migrant protests on 19:25 - Aug 9 with 1502 viewsSuffolktractor

These anti migrant protests on 18:38 - Aug 9 by DJR

Gimme a country that's red white and blue
Gimme the British way honest and true
Gimme the chance to be one of the few
Gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme

Cos, I'm all right, I'm all right
Union Jack, fly the flag

[Post edited 9 Aug 18:41]


Great song by in my opinion one of the finest bands ever.
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These anti migrant protests on 19:50 - Aug 9 with 1430 viewsFreddies_Ears

They are so patriotic that they don't even get the words right. It is:
"Rule Britannia,
Britannia, rule the waves", an exhortation or wish, not a statement of superiority.

(Just as some Town fans used to get Edward Eb wrong, with the correct version "Everybody, call me Ted" (request, not statement) now being generally accepted following last season's cartoons / illustrations.)
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These anti migrant protests on 19:52 - Aug 9 with 1412 viewsblue_curacao

These anti migrant protests on 19:25 - Aug 9 by Suffolktractor

Great song by in my opinion one of the finest bands ever.


100%

Absolutely top band. Still going strong too. Love them!
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These anti migrant protests on 20:36 - Aug 9 with 1303 viewsHairBearBunch

Yeah I wondered about that too .....also same for the Palestinian flags on the other side of the police lines.
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These anti migrant protests on 21:30 - Aug 9 with 1159 viewsDJR

These anti migrant protests on 19:25 - Aug 9 by Suffolktractor

Great song by in my opinion one of the finest bands ever.


Absolutely.
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These anti migrant protests on 21:37 - Aug 9 with 1125 viewsjontysnut

Don't forget the cans of Stella - an accessory no concerned patriot should be without.
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These anti migrant protests on 21:54 - Aug 9 with 1060 viewsTresBonne

Agree on your second point.

But what is the link in your first between racism and the Union Jack/St George?
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These anti migrant protests on 21:55 - Aug 9 with 1053 viewsnoggin

These anti migrant protests on 21:37 - Aug 9 by jontysnut

Don't forget the cans of Stella - an accessory no concerned patriot should be without.


Good old English beer.

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These anti migrant protests on 22:02 - Aug 9 with 1026 viewsredrickstuhaart

These anti migrant protests on 21:55 - Aug 9 by noggin

Good old English beer.


Well- it actually is. At least the slop we get in this country is.

Burtonised shyte.
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These anti migrant protests on 22:08 - Aug 9 with 994 viewsnoggin

These anti migrant protests on 21:54 - Aug 9 by TresBonne

Agree on your second point.

But what is the link in your first between racism and the Union Jack/St George?


Why, if the protest is aimed at protecting the children, do they need so many flags? Surely you can see that? What is the point of the flags?

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These anti migrant protests on 22:20 - Aug 9 with 930 viewsTresBonne

These anti migrant protests on 22:08 - Aug 9 by noggin

Why, if the protest is aimed at protecting the children, do they need so many flags? Surely you can see that? What is the point of the flags?


I get where you're coming from but that doesn't explain why you *appear* to infer that the flags are linked to racism.
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These anti migrant protests on 22:39 - Aug 9 with 884 viewsredrickstuhaart

These anti migrant protests on 22:20 - Aug 9 by TresBonne

I get where you're coming from but that doesn't explain why you *appear* to infer that the flags are linked to racism.


Because a protest about migrants is actually a jingoistic expression of "Britishness".
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These anti migrant protests on 05:22 - Aug 10 with 699 viewsnoggin

These anti migrant protests on 22:20 - Aug 9 by TresBonne

I get where you're coming from but that doesn't explain why you *appear* to infer that the flags are linked to racism.


Don't you think the flags are a statement? "Look, we are British and this is Britain. You are not welcome." Unless there's another reason for the flags, that I'm missing.

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These anti migrant protests on 07:51 - Aug 10 with 531 viewsTresBonne

These anti migrant protests on 05:22 - Aug 10 by noggin

Don't you think the flags are a statement? "Look, we are British and this is Britain. You are not welcome." Unless there's another reason for the flags, that I'm missing.


It will never, ever be racist in any way to fly the flags of your country in your country.
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These anti migrant protests on 07:59 - Aug 10 with 507 viewsSwansea_Blue

These anti migrant protests on 07:51 - Aug 10 by TresBonne

It will never, ever be racist in any way to fly the flags of your country in your country.


Whilst true with no other context, it’s also true that racist movements in England have hijacked the St George’s Cross, unfortunately. (See J2s post top of thread).

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These anti migrant protests on 08:23 - Aug 10 with 437 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

These anti migrant protests on 18:29 - Aug 9 by J2BLUE

No idea but they shouldn't be allowed to hijack the meaning of the flags.


The UK has had an identity crisis for a long time when it comes to any form of patriotism. It’s a crying shame that flying the flag is associated with right wing politics but it’s basically true and also unbelievable at the same time.

I always notice how many houses and porches in my neighborhood (a left wing city) fly the Stars and Stripes proudly but it winds me up that in England, a lot of folks associate any form of national pride with some weird form of racism or nativism.

I mean just look what the OP is insinuating here as well as going back to empire stuff, which whatever your thoughts of the protests is surely not what its what it’s about in terms of the incidents it’s related to.

From my upbringing I always considered England a place with a pretty proud record of tolerance and acceptance compared to so much of Europe but so many want to do it down!


Sad.
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These anti migrant protests on 08:44 - Aug 10 with 366 viewsnoggin

These anti migrant protests on 07:51 - Aug 10 by TresBonne

It will never, ever be racist in any way to fly the flags of your country in your country.


You haven’t answered the question though. Why are they draping themselves in flags, while protesting about an “invasion” of foreigners? In fact, if they were really protesting about “uncontrolled immigration”, surely they should be protesting outside parliament?

Oh, and you don’t think groups like the NF, the BNP and the EDL were waving flags as a show of racist nationalism? If so, you’re pretty naive.
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These anti migrant protests on 08:52 - Aug 10 with 334 viewsnoggin

These anti migrant protests on 08:23 - Aug 10 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior

The UK has had an identity crisis for a long time when it comes to any form of patriotism. It’s a crying shame that flying the flag is associated with right wing politics but it’s basically true and also unbelievable at the same time.

I always notice how many houses and porches in my neighborhood (a left wing city) fly the Stars and Stripes proudly but it winds me up that in England, a lot of folks associate any form of national pride with some weird form of racism or nativism.

I mean just look what the OP is insinuating here as well as going back to empire stuff, which whatever your thoughts of the protests is surely not what its what it’s about in terms of the incidents it’s related to.

From my upbringing I always considered England a place with a pretty proud record of tolerance and acceptance compared to so much of Europe but so many want to do it down!


Sad.
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How, in any way, are these protests a form of national pride? Singing Rule Britannia at a group of innocent and no doubt frightened asylum seekers, has nothing to do with national pride.

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