| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before 08:45 - Aug 13 with 6961 views | Ryorry |
Omari, uh oh, Omari oh no  |  |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 10:30 - Aug 13 with 836 views | blueasfook |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 10:04 - Aug 13 by noggin |
"the fact he's made the point twice about omari advising he can't play imo says a lot"
But that's you making assumptions. Mental health is an individual thing. If Omari feels he's not up to playing, then that's his judgment. KM might not be happy about it, but would we want OH playing while his head is in the wrong place? |
As I said already on this thread, if Omari was suffering mental health issues, then KM would have handled the publicity very differently last night instead of simply saying he "didnt want to contribute". I don't know why you keep trying to drum up sympathy for a player who just clearly doesnt want to play because he wants out. |  |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 10:32 - Aug 13 with 825 views | noggin |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 10:24 - Aug 13 by cressi |
I agree this isn't mental health be fine when he gets his own way like a spoil child and what was wrong with the 1970s like the person said at times you do have to grow a pair. |
Dismissing mental health issues is both stupid and dangerous.
"Suicide in England and Wales is three times more common among men than among women. The gap between sexes has increased over time."
Source: House of Commons Library. |  |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 10:36 - Aug 13 with 785 views | azuremerlangus |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 10:23 - Aug 13 by noggin |
That might be true but it doesn't mean his mental health isn't suffering now. |
Interesting to see if he actually has enduring mental issues once he is somewhere else. For his sake I do hope he hasn’t, but it seems coincidental that this possible problem has only surfaced since ‘release clause gate’? |  |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 10:38 - Aug 13 with 771 views | FrimleyBlue |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 10:30 - Aug 13 by blueasfook |
As I said already on this thread, if Omari was suffering mental health issues, then KM would have handled the publicity very differently last night instead of simply saying he "didnt want to contribute". I don't know why you keep trying to drum up sympathy for a player who just clearly doesnt want to play because he wants out. |
As i said, he would have simply said hutch is injured, by saying what he has he's simply implying that hutch is capable of training but wont play games |  |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 10:38 - Aug 13 with 767 views | noggin |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 10:36 - Aug 13 by azuremerlangus |
Interesting to see if he actually has enduring mental issues once he is somewhere else. For his sake I do hope he hasn’t, but it seems coincidental that this possible problem has only surfaced since ‘release clause gate’? |
Maybe it's "release clause gate" that's affecting his mental health. We don't pick and choose what in life, affects us mentally. | |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 10:40 - Aug 13 with 757 views | Wright1 |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 10:06 - Aug 13 by noggin |
"But equally he is the one who is handsomely paid and he is showing 0 respect to KM who deserves an awful lot of it."
Salary is completely irrelevant, if mental health is the issue. |
This is true but there is nothing to suggest it is the issue. I would like to think our club is classier than hanging him out to dry if it was the case - he'd have a pulled hamstring or something.
We can't shut down all conversations about Omari because it MIGHT be mental health. |  | | |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 10:42 - Aug 13 with 737 views | southnorfolkblue |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 10:14 - Aug 13 by cressi |
I don't remember Delap that fondly he was all over the place chatting to other clubs whilst we were still playing games couldn't wait to leave. |
With the Club’s knowledge and permission as it was in their interest to get his situated resolved asap | |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 10:43 - Aug 13 with 728 views | noggin |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 10:40 - Aug 13 by Wright1 |
This is true but there is nothing to suggest it is the issue. I would like to think our club is classier than hanging him out to dry if it was the case - he'd have a pulled hamstring or something.
We can't shut down all conversations about Omari because it MIGHT be mental health. |
"We can't shut down all conversations about Omari because it MIGHT be mental health."
Of course not, but some people, yourself included, are dismissing mental health as the issue.
I just think that's a dangerous thing to do. Truth is, we don't know. | |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 10:53 - Aug 13 with 697 views | Wright1 |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 10:10 - Aug 13 by bazza |
The trouble is, have the club caused this issue, by not letting him go, trying to keep him, because in the real world we all have the right to move jobs, especially for bigger money and working at the top of your profession? |
I'm sorry but it just isn't comparable.
My employer doesn't have to pay millions of pounds to acquire my services. If i'm terrible at my job it doesn't take much to get rid of me - there is a process but they quite quickly get rid of the burden of my wages.
We paid circa £20m for Omari. If he has been rubbish, we'd have been expected to honour our commitment to him and his wages. If we decide he stays and see out that contract then he should have to respect that (unfortunately not often how it works in modern football)... if we decide to let him out of that commitment that we BOTH made, then it needs to be at a price dictated by the market and his value to our club.
Now given Fulham have bid approx. £31m for some bloke called Kevin who i've never heard of... and i've seen fees as high as £55m quoted for Harvey Elliot... I don't think it is unreasonable to expect between £40-45m for our prized asset with a good chunk upfront to allow a rebuild. | | | |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 10:55 - Aug 13 with 695 views | azuremerlangus |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 10:38 - Aug 13 by noggin |
Maybe it's "release clause gate" that's affecting his mental health. We don't pick and choose what in life, affects us mentally. |
I’m sure it has affected him in some negative way - but there is a difference between hacked off with the situation (and that is part of life I’m afraid) and something more serious. I would expect the former to need some general support from work and family, the latter proper professional treatment, but either way he needs to get on with it. Keep calm and carry on… | |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 11:11 - Aug 13 with 635 views | Cafe_Newman |
If it later transpires that there are mental health issues involved, a lot of people here will be scraping egg off their faces.
We should not be so quick to judge. Let's just see what happens.
We all want a quick resolution to what's going on, but the most unsettling thing at the club I sense is the flouncy speculation among the fans.
KMcK and MA are no fools. Let them do what they think is right for the club. [Post edited 13 Aug 11:13]
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 11:32 - Aug 13 with 586 views | Wright1 |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 10:43 - Aug 13 by noggin |
"We can't shut down all conversations about Omari because it MIGHT be mental health."
Of course not, but some people, yourself included, are dismissing mental health as the issue.
I just think that's a dangerous thing to do. Truth is, we don't know. |
This feels a bit like virtue signalling if i'm honest. What exactly are you proposing we do then? Do we have to caveat every comment with "... unless it's mental health, in which case I take it back and hope the lad's ok"?
I think for most people it goes without saying that if Omari is feeling genuinely mentally unwell then we'd feel for him and it would mitigate some of the comments being made. It also goes without saying for most people that we understand there are shades of grey in any situation and that in some capacity this will be hard for Omari too.
What it doesn't change is that there is no evidence of any major mental health concerns - which makes it as much speculation as any other comment in this thread. There are also people who have and continue to have to show up to work even when working their way through mental health concerns - most of which caused by something far more stressful than i'd really like that shiny new job but I might not be allowed to go... and I include footballers in that. | | | |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 11:41 - Aug 13 with 566 views | GlasgowBlue |
I was pissed off when Matt Holland turned down a move to Villa which could have kept the club a float and local businesses paid. Instead he hung on and went to Charlton for pennies.
Now he's a club legend and Board member.
Funny old game. |  |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 11:44 - Aug 13 with 536 views | BseaBlue |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 10:43 - Aug 13 by noggin |
"We can't shut down all conversations about Omari because it MIGHT be mental health."
Of course not, but some people, yourself included, are dismissing mental health as the issue.
I just think that's a dangerous thing to do. Truth is, we don't know. |
Whilst you raise a good point, I trust KM enough to think he makes a smart and informed comment about the situation, considering the player's stance. It has been well publicised they have a good relationship so if it was a case of mental health, I don't think he makes those comments he did last night. |  | | |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 11:54 - Aug 13 with 494 views | mellowblue |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:13 - Aug 13 by football |
And Broadhead who was probably not sick |
Cut Broady some slack here, he played against brum, did his job, did not down tools. | | | |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 11:58 - Aug 13 with 476 views | mellowblue |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 11:41 - Aug 13 by GlasgowBlue |
I was pissed off when Matt Holland turned down a move to Villa which could have kept the club a float and local businesses paid. Instead he hung on and went to Charlton for pennies.
Now he's a club legend and Board member.
Funny old game. |
Yes, it was a bitter-sweet moment when he stayed, didn't Hermann do the same? | | | |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 12:04 - Aug 13 with 458 views | Vaughan8 |
The mental health arguement is a bit silly to me. Its a lot LESS likely its to do with mental health than him just wanting a move. I guess Isak is having mental health issues too is he?
If it is mental health, then he needs to stop even training and sort himself out. We can't just use mental health as a "standard" excuse or it just gets overused and then the real victims get undermined.
TO not be able to play, you must have pretty severe mental health issues I'd imagine. | | | |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 12:11 - Aug 13 with 427 views | blueasfook |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 11:41 - Aug 13 by GlasgowBlue |
I was pissed off when Matt Holland turned down a move to Villa which could have kept the club a float and local businesses paid. Instead he hung on and went to Charlton for pennies.
Now he's a club legend and Board member.
Funny old game. |
I never saw why Matt Holland should bear the responsibility of helping the club out of its financial mismanagement by accepting a move he didn't want to take.
But ITV Digital (or something blah blah....) | |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 12:12 - Aug 13 with 425 views | Bluebell |
I might have missed it but is Omari training with the team?
As he hasn’t played in any pre-season games or the 2 in the last week, I doubt he will be match fit anyway if he hasn’t done anything.
I hope the other players are supporting him whatever his final decision is. |  | | |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 12:14 - Aug 13 with 411 views | positivity |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 11:54 - Aug 13 by mellowblue |
Cut Broady some slack here, he played against brum, did his job, did not down tools. |
but "downed tools" against brom and charlton | |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 12:16 - Aug 13 with 396 views | positivity |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 12:12 - Aug 13 by Bluebell |
I might have missed it but is Omari training with the team?
As he hasn’t played in any pre-season games or the 2 in the last week, I doubt he will be match fit anyway if he hasn’t done anything.
I hope the other players are supporting him whatever his final decision is. |
he was doing fitnes training with young, don't know if he's with the group.
he did play against charlton pre-season, so imagine he was training with the group then at least | |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 12:16 - Aug 13 with 393 views | Ryorry |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 12:12 - Aug 13 by Bluebell |
I might have missed it but is Omari training with the team?
As he hasn’t played in any pre-season games or the 2 in the last week, I doubt he will be match fit anyway if he hasn’t done anything.
I hope the other players are supporting him whatever his final decision is. |
I also wondered (on a different thread) if he’s training at all, and if so, with which squad - anyone know? | |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 12:33 - Aug 13 with 347 views | JeremiahBrown |
Whatever the matter is with Omari, it is not doing us any favours. It could be disrupting the other players and doesn't look good to new players coming in or potential new players, and is giving McKenna a distraction to deal with, potentially taking his time and mind off the job in hand.
I think the club keep rejecting offers for him (if indeed that is the case) doesn't help matters either if he really does want to go.
If it his agent wanting him to leave, then Omari is being pulled in all directions. However, he saw Delap leave and probably wants to do the same. That is a problem for us though, having both Delap and Omari leave at the same time.
The fact that McKenna said they wanted to do what was in the interests of both the club and player, makes me think that Omari wants to leave, but as the club don't want him to leave, they at least want to get a lot of money for him.
The problem is though, that the longer this drags on, the more disrupting it is for the club and player. If he leaves, we need to have time to recruit someone else and integrate them into the team.
If he stays here, he may never recover from this and things could turn nasty, which could have a profound effect on the club as a whole.
Whatever the reasons are for all this, it needs sorting ASAP. | | | |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 12:37 - Aug 13 with 321 views | ArmaghBlue |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 10:36 - Aug 13 by azuremerlangus |
Interesting to see if he actually has enduring mental issues once he is somewhere else. For his sake I do hope he hasn’t, but it seems coincidental that this possible problem has only surfaced since ‘release clause gate’? |
If these are genuine mental issues, I can’t see how moving to a higher pressure Premier League environment would help him.
Let’s just wait and see what happens. |  | | |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 12:41 - Aug 13 with 316 views | Pinewoodblue |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 12:33 - Aug 13 by JeremiahBrown |
Whatever the matter is with Omari, it is not doing us any favours. It could be disrupting the other players and doesn't look good to new players coming in or potential new players, and is giving McKenna a distraction to deal with, potentially taking his time and mind off the job in hand.
I think the club keep rejecting offers for him (if indeed that is the case) doesn't help matters either if he really does want to go.
If it his agent wanting him to leave, then Omari is being pulled in all directions. However, he saw Delap leave and probably wants to do the same. That is a problem for us though, having both Delap and Omari leave at the same time.
The fact that McKenna said they wanted to do what was in the interests of both the club and player, makes me think that Omari wants to leave, but as the club don't want him to leave, they at least want to get a lot of money for him.
The problem is though, that the longer this drags on, the more disrupting it is for the club and player. If he leaves, we need to have time to recruit someone else and integrate them into the team.
If he stays here, he may never recover from this and things could turn nasty, which could have a profound effect on the club as a whole.
Whatever the reasons are for all this, it needs sorting ASAP. |
It isn’t a distraction for KMc to deal with, his priorities are elsewhere.
Remember one game at a time. KMc will be focused on the Southampton game. |  |
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