| mental health awareness 11:44 - Aug 13 with 1226 views | urbanpenguin |
I wanted to just say a few words about mental health, and not specifically about any single player or individual, but more generally - though obviously a couple of threads about one player has led to it.
Three times as many men as women die from suicide in the UK, with the largest mental health issues being with men aged 40-49. Men are less likely to get support or talk, either professional or from friends or family.
I say this because phrases like "man up" and "grow a pair" can be extremely unhelpful. We do not know the personal situation or lived experiences of any other person - player or other member of this community - and I think it's important to remember that words have meanings and impact.
In the past I have had bad mental health issues, and I can guarantee you that a huge number of other people on TWTD either have experiences with or are currently having difficulties. Of those that have been lucky not to have been there, they don't know what will happen in the future. Certainly when I was in my darkest places I didn't really feel that I could contribute enough to making my own day pass smoothly, let alone turn up for my then-fairly-low-level job. It is not an unusual situation, whether an individual is high or low profile, rich or poor.
I don't want this to be a lecture, nor that Phil/Gav should police language, and I certainly don't really want it to be another thread about any single footballer. Just that players mentioned on this board may read things written here, and even if not other fellow TWTDers will read things written here and when we write - however heated, angry, or frustrated we are - we should be mindful and awake to other people's situations. This is not about my history, not about any single player, just about being intentional with meaning and language.
There are organisations that can help if you need support. Your local NHS practice, or if you prefer something more anonymous then search for CALM, the Samaritans, or Men's Health Forum. |  | | |  |
| mental health awareness on 11:46 - Aug 13 with 1187 views | Horsham |
Well said. |  | | |
| mental health awareness on 12:08 - Aug 13 with 1088 views | J2BLUE |
I wanted to post yesterday about Al-Hamadi's cryptic X post a month or so ago and how none of us know what could be happening with him but people wanted to vent so didn't bother.
By all means criticise the player for his performances but some of the language and thinly veiled glee was disgusting.
Agree with your broader point as well. |  |
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| mental health awareness on 12:11 - Aug 13 with 1046 views | greyhound |
Well said.
I'm not happy about having a player refuse to play, and it is frustrating to see a lack of quality, but look on X where we know players have accounts and they are being called rats, snakes, not capable of playing 2 divisions below, to poor for non league...this is not the way, but society does seem to have lost its sense of reason |  | | |
| mental health awareness on 12:17 - Aug 13 with 1003 views | WickhamsLeftBoot |
FYI - I’m a Mental Health First Aider, always happy to chat if anyone needs to speak about anything. |  | | |
| mental health awareness on 12:18 - Aug 13 with 993 views | lowhouseblue |
apologies, down vote was unintentional - didn't even know i'd clicked the arrow. have corrected. |  |
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| mental health awareness on 13:10 - Aug 13 with 824 views | bluelagos |
| mental health awareness on 12:17 - Aug 13 by WickhamsLeftBoot |
FYI - I’m a Mental Health First Aider, always happy to chat if anyone needs to speak about anything. |
Genuine question (and apols for my ignorance) - what is a mental health first aider? |  |
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| mental health awareness on 23:23 - Aug 14 with 567 views | FrimleyBlue |
| mental health awareness on 13:10 - Aug 13 by bluelagos |
Genuine question (and apols for my ignorance) - what is a mental health first aider? |
A mental health first aider's role is to provide initial support to individuals experiencing mental health challenges or crises, guiding them towards appropriate professional help. They are not therapists or counselors, but rather trained individuals who can recognize signs of mental health issues, offer a safe space for conversation, and connect people with necessary resources. |  |
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| mental health awareness on 00:12 - Aug 15 with 490 views | Churchman |
Thank you for posting this. You are 100% correct and your post is incisive, thoughtful and important. Words certainly do have meaning and impact, sometimes far beyond personal frustration and quite frankly ignorance.
I have no idea how somebody can be in a place where the think their only option is to end their own life. Mrs Cs cousin, who was in the 40 to 50 age range and was a good chum of mine (and an avid Leicester City, Tigers etc fan) did just that, an intelligent man with a well paid job and a lovely family.
At his funeral some people judged him; said things that were incomprehensible to me. Why? Because I’ve never been close to the place he was in where that was his only choice. I remember him as good company, funny, fun, caring, interested and interesting.
On life’s journey it was my privilege to travel a little bit with him.
I’m dealing with some really tough stuff at the moment and let it show on a post in another thread with my silliness. My apologies but the learning point is that it’s never good to assume that you are invulnerable to stress. It’s easy to do and there’s a path from that which can potentially lead to a poor place if you don’t recognise it.
That’s not quite the same as people with what I’d define as serious issues or is it? Better people than me will know but I suspect that our knowledge and appreciation of mental health is borderline medieval. There may be no votes in it, but just possibly it’s a tad more important than idiots in the HoC. I don’t know, I’m rambling.
My plea is for people to vent and rage as they please, but to try and lay off personal abuse and attack. Who knows who reads social media? All the more reason to be wary. I don’t like what is happening with OH or his Agent’s decision making but I see no merit in piling in on a bloke I don’t know around a situation I’m not party to. Maybe that’s for the future.
Until then, be kind folks. In life you will meet and gather plenty of enemies you can truly vent your hate on. I have. Football players and idiots on Forums? Really not worth the energy.
Apologies for the over long rant. |  | | |
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| mental health awareness on 09:09 - Aug 15 with 332 views | DJR |
| mental health awareness on 00:12 - Aug 15 by Churchman |
Thank you for posting this. You are 100% correct and your post is incisive, thoughtful and important. Words certainly do have meaning and impact, sometimes far beyond personal frustration and quite frankly ignorance.
I have no idea how somebody can be in a place where the think their only option is to end their own life. Mrs Cs cousin, who was in the 40 to 50 age range and was a good chum of mine (and an avid Leicester City, Tigers etc fan) did just that, an intelligent man with a well paid job and a lovely family.
At his funeral some people judged him; said things that were incomprehensible to me. Why? Because I’ve never been close to the place he was in where that was his only choice. I remember him as good company, funny, fun, caring, interested and interesting.
On life’s journey it was my privilege to travel a little bit with him.
I’m dealing with some really tough stuff at the moment and let it show on a post in another thread with my silliness. My apologies but the learning point is that it’s never good to assume that you are invulnerable to stress. It’s easy to do and there’s a path from that which can potentially lead to a poor place if you don’t recognise it.
That’s not quite the same as people with what I’d define as serious issues or is it? Better people than me will know but I suspect that our knowledge and appreciation of mental health is borderline medieval. There may be no votes in it, but just possibly it’s a tad more important than idiots in the HoC. I don’t know, I’m rambling.
My plea is for people to vent and rage as they please, but to try and lay off personal abuse and attack. Who knows who reads social media? All the more reason to be wary. I don’t like what is happening with OH or his Agent’s decision making but I see no merit in piling in on a bloke I don’t know around a situation I’m not party to. Maybe that’s for the future.
Until then, be kind folks. In life you will meet and gather plenty of enemies you can truly vent your hate on. I have. Football players and idiots on Forums? Really not worth the energy.
Apologies for the over long rant. |
Wise words as always. |  | | |
| mental health awareness on 09:12 - Aug 15 with 324 views | Zonderman |
A superb post. Thank you. | | | |
| mental health awareness on 09:43 - Aug 15 with 279 views | Swansea_Blue |
Well done as a standard mental health awareness post. There’s still a stigma attached and a lot of people still seem to think it’s not an illness but a choice somehow (despite all the evidence to the contrary).
What I don’t understand is why this is cropping up repeatedly on here in relation to Omari. Why are people assuming he has mental health problems because he wants to play at a higher level (and earn more money doing so, but at don’t know if that’s also a motivation for him)? I don’t intend to derail the thread, but have I missed a statement saying he’s suffering from any mental health issues? |  |
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| mental health awareness on 11:03 - Aug 15 with 225 views | urbanpenguin |
| mental health awareness on 09:43 - Aug 15 by Swansea_Blue |
Well done as a standard mental health awareness post. There’s still a stigma attached and a lot of people still seem to think it’s not an illness but a choice somehow (despite all the evidence to the contrary).
What I don’t understand is why this is cropping up repeatedly on here in relation to Omari. Why are people assuming he has mental health problems because he wants to play at a higher level (and earn more money doing so, but at don’t know if that’s also a motivation for him)? I don’t intend to derail the thread, but have I missed a statement saying he’s suffering from any mental health issues? |
There are many other threads for this tbh. | | | |
| mental health awareness on 11:36 - Aug 15 with 153 views | FrimleyBlue |
| mental health awareness on 00:12 - Aug 15 by Churchman |
Thank you for posting this. You are 100% correct and your post is incisive, thoughtful and important. Words certainly do have meaning and impact, sometimes far beyond personal frustration and quite frankly ignorance.
I have no idea how somebody can be in a place where the think their only option is to end their own life. Mrs Cs cousin, who was in the 40 to 50 age range and was a good chum of mine (and an avid Leicester City, Tigers etc fan) did just that, an intelligent man with a well paid job and a lovely family.
At his funeral some people judged him; said things that were incomprehensible to me. Why? Because I’ve never been close to the place he was in where that was his only choice. I remember him as good company, funny, fun, caring, interested and interesting.
On life’s journey it was my privilege to travel a little bit with him.
I’m dealing with some really tough stuff at the moment and let it show on a post in another thread with my silliness. My apologies but the learning point is that it’s never good to assume that you are invulnerable to stress. It’s easy to do and there’s a path from that which can potentially lead to a poor place if you don’t recognise it.
That’s not quite the same as people with what I’d define as serious issues or is it? Better people than me will know but I suspect that our knowledge and appreciation of mental health is borderline medieval. There may be no votes in it, but just possibly it’s a tad more important than idiots in the HoC. I don’t know, I’m rambling.
My plea is for people to vent and rage as they please, but to try and lay off personal abuse and attack. Who knows who reads social media? All the more reason to be wary. I don’t like what is happening with OH or his Agent’s decision making but I see no merit in piling in on a bloke I don’t know around a situation I’m not party to. Maybe that’s for the future.
Until then, be kind folks. In life you will meet and gather plenty of enemies you can truly vent your hate on. I have. Football players and idiots on Forums? Really not worth the energy.
Apologies for the over long rant. |
I've been down that alley, it's incredibly difficult to actually describe the mind sometimes, i've had some difficult moments over the years but mentally I didn't feel any issues, it wasn't until I found myself in a good place, socialising, good job, finances, holidays, life was great, then suddenly i found myself talking to someone i'd never heard before, problem was no one else could speak to them, no one could hear them. No one could intervene to direct those discussions elsewhere.
Thankfully a post on twtd actually directed me to seek a chat over the phone, that voice i'd been hearing was there, but it was alot quieter and not as constant, in time i found that voice became a weekly accurance, then a fortnighty to suddenly not there anymore, but that phone call was constant.
You see marketing stuff all the time about it's good to talk, etc I wish you'd see so much more of it on tv, radio, all other media's, I don't feel it's out there enough, it can take one phone call to help with those voices, so it would be good if that number was available when it matters most, the occasional marketing ad, occasional discussion imo isn't enough, we see the same advert on TV for fast foods, you see .... sponsors channel 4 movies etc, imo mental health ads should appear in every ad break, before and after every programe. who knows, in those last moments of someone who has had enough of those voices, IF those adverts appeared, it MAY have made a difference.
We all know numbers excist, places excist etc, but when you're hearing those voices, you're not really thinking about anything else, you're mostly trying to ignore the voice, but it gets louder.. So lets start distracting those who need distracting when it matters.
Church sorry just realised this has nothing to do with your post I apologise, I was just thinking and had to write, so hope thats ok | |
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| mental health awareness on 11:46 - Aug 15 with 109 views | Churchman |
| mental health awareness on 11:36 - Aug 15 by FrimleyBlue |
I've been down that alley, it's incredibly difficult to actually describe the mind sometimes, i've had some difficult moments over the years but mentally I didn't feel any issues, it wasn't until I found myself in a good place, socialising, good job, finances, holidays, life was great, then suddenly i found myself talking to someone i'd never heard before, problem was no one else could speak to them, no one could hear them. No one could intervene to direct those discussions elsewhere.
Thankfully a post on twtd actually directed me to seek a chat over the phone, that voice i'd been hearing was there, but it was alot quieter and not as constant, in time i found that voice became a weekly accurance, then a fortnighty to suddenly not there anymore, but that phone call was constant.
You see marketing stuff all the time about it's good to talk, etc I wish you'd see so much more of it on tv, radio, all other media's, I don't feel it's out there enough, it can take one phone call to help with those voices, so it would be good if that number was available when it matters most, the occasional marketing ad, occasional discussion imo isn't enough, we see the same advert on TV for fast foods, you see .... sponsors channel 4 movies etc, imo mental health ads should appear in every ad break, before and after every programe. who knows, in those last moments of someone who has had enough of those voices, IF those adverts appeared, it MAY have made a difference.
We all know numbers excist, places excist etc, but when you're hearing those voices, you're not really thinking about anything else, you're mostly trying to ignore the voice, but it gets louder.. So lets start distracting those who need distracting when it matters.
Church sorry just realised this has nothing to do with your post I apologise, I was just thinking and had to write, so hope thats ok |
Of course it’s ok FB. It is a very interesting post too 👍🏻 | | | |
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