| The Hundred 09:15 - Aug 17 with 3567 views | woodbridge_blue |
There is a continual debate amongst cricket followers about he pros and cons of The Hundred, and I can see both sides of the argument.
Last night I had the privilege to be at The Oval to witness one of the greatest onslaught of hitting I have ever seen in such a short space of time.
Invincibles smashed the previous record by scoring 226 for 4 in a 100 balls, with Jordan Cox bludgeoning 86 in 29 balls.
In total there were 25 sixes in the match, another competition record.
Whatever the merits of the competition, 26,000 people were entertained as never before, lots and lots of youngsters, some enjoying their first taste of live cricket on a beautiful South London summer evening.
Seriously, what's not to like? |  | | |  |
| The Hundred on 00:10 - Aug 18 with 740 views | Kievthegreat |
| The Hundred on 23:42 - Aug 17 by ArnoldMoorhen |
It's not just that.
It's that the same 7 or 8 Counties who get all the Test Matches, Internationals, and Finals now get to create a new competition and completely exclude the other Counties.
A few years ago David Willey won the T20 Finals for Northants with an incredible display of hitting and then stunning death bowling.
He then signed for Yorkshire (one of the privileged Test Match venue Counties).
I was told by someone ITK at Northants that there was a fee paid and Northants asked him to go because that fee was the only opportunity they had to balance the books.
I was told the fee was £50,000.
That's how desperate the other Counties are.
Northants is a rural County with lots of village cricket teams and some notable Public Schools in it's catchment area. As well as David Willey it has produced Ben Duckett for the England Test side. Before them Graeme Swann and Monty Panesar came through their system.
Northants realised that they couldn't compete in the County Championship, and prioritised T20 as a way to generate excitement, crowds and income, to sustain the County into the future. And they have more than punched their weight in it.
If the Hundred expands, and eventually swallows T20 (because there is really no point in having both) then where does that leave Counties like Northants? Or Essex, Sussex, or Worcestshire etc etc?
They will go bust. [Post edited 17 Aug 23:46]
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The fundamental issue with the hundred isn't the 100 balls vs 20 overs, the razzmatazz, etc... It's about the massively side-lining of smaller counties. It's the English Cricket equivalent of the European Super League or the Premier League abolishing relegation, except rather than admonish the proposal like the FA, UEFA, et al did/would, the ECB were the driving force.
It would have been possible to setup a 2 division T20 Blast in a good slot in summer. That way you can concentrate some real talent in those top tier overseas talent in those teams in division 1 while giving the division 2 teams a meaningful competition and way back to the top table.
Instead they set up franchises that will bring an influx of private equity funds to buy stakes in closed shop league (although weighted against an enormous investment by the ECB to kick start their plan). At the moment it's Northants/Leicestershire/Derbyshire that suffer. Eventually though Essex and Sussex, teams that are well run and competitive(for the most part) will find themselves economically strangled. Essex are big enough to compete right now, but too small to be allowed a seat at the private equity league table. |  | | |
| The Hundred on 08:15 - Aug 18 with 662 views | Radlett_blue |
| The Hundred on 00:10 - Aug 18 by Kievthegreat |
The fundamental issue with the hundred isn't the 100 balls vs 20 overs, the razzmatazz, etc... It's about the massively side-lining of smaller counties. It's the English Cricket equivalent of the European Super League or the Premier League abolishing relegation, except rather than admonish the proposal like the FA, UEFA, et al did/would, the ECB were the driving force.
It would have been possible to setup a 2 division T20 Blast in a good slot in summer. That way you can concentrate some real talent in those top tier overseas talent in those teams in division 1 while giving the division 2 teams a meaningful competition and way back to the top table.
Instead they set up franchises that will bring an influx of private equity funds to buy stakes in closed shop league (although weighted against an enormous investment by the ECB to kick start their plan). At the moment it's Northants/Leicestershire/Derbyshire that suffer. Eventually though Essex and Sussex, teams that are well run and competitive(for the most part) will find themselves economically strangled. Essex are big enough to compete right now, but too small to be allowed a seat at the private equity league table. |
Your idea of a 2 tier Blast is a sound one, but I would question the sense of continuing to try to keep 18 first class counties on perpetual life support. Without money from the ECB (essentially recycled Sky money of the England team) most of them would go bust. A first class structure is needed to produce England players, but if you started from scratch, you wouldn't have 18 teams. |  |
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| The Hundred on 08:20 - Aug 18 with 654 views | chicoazul |
It’s a tough one as it’s very non traditional obviously but my cricket mad son and all his club mates watch it religiously and love it. |  |
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| The Hundred on 08:42 - Aug 18 with 622 views | Kievthegreat |
| The Hundred on 08:15 - Aug 18 by Radlett_blue |
Your idea of a 2 tier Blast is a sound one, but I would question the sense of continuing to try to keep 18 first class counties on perpetual life support. Without money from the ECB (essentially recycled Sky money of the England team) most of them would go bust. A first class structure is needed to produce England players, but if you started from scratch, you wouldn't have 18 teams. |
I think there's some validity to the issue of 18 counties possibly being more than required. However I don't think we'd ever countenance the same arguments being made for football. You could set up a PL1/2 system and have a nucleus of 40-ish professional and well funded clubs with strong academy systems. They can cover the majority of the country and majority cities and develop players for the national team. L1/2 teams aren't really necessary and they already rely on scraps from the top table.
For me the equation with all the Hundred stuff was, could you have put investment into the Blast or equivalent and yielded similar? Answer is sort of mixed. You could have got crowds and engagement and possibly on a bigger scale or more of a spread rather than the same 8 franchises. However I don't think private investment would be as interested at investing directly into counties. | | | |
| The Hundred on 08:59 - Aug 18 with 615 views | rkc123 |
The T20 blast would also sell out grounds, during the English summer there are enough people who are happy to go and watch a fun few hours of cricket that tickets will always sell for whatever the centrepiece shortform tournament happens to be. The TV viewing figures of The Hundred though are not good, the free to air games have seen a steady decline in viewers since its first year. They seem to have drawn in the required interest of investment funds, billionaire families, and proto chemical companies (surely the dream of every young cricketer) to make the whole thing churn along and make money for the ECB.
It was obviously 20 years ago now, but when you consider peak viewing figures for the 2005 ashes on channel 4 were around 6-8 million, and the final of the mens hundred last year was 1.3 million (on BBC), I think it is fair to say the format has not fully tapped the potential viewership for the sport. | | | |
| The Hundred on 09:18 - Aug 18 with 600 views | Tony73 |
I support any attempt to get new audiences watching and participating in cricket as helps the game top to bottom - only issue I have with it is theres no obvious connection with any team. I follow Essex so can't really see any affiliation with the 100 sides in the same way someone from Birmingham, Manchester or Wales might have | | | |
| The Hundred on 09:35 - Aug 18 with 577 views | Ryorry |
| The Hundred on 08:15 - Aug 18 by Radlett_blue |
Your idea of a 2 tier Blast is a sound one, but I would question the sense of continuing to try to keep 18 first class counties on perpetual life support. Without money from the ECB (essentially recycled Sky money of the England team) most of them would go bust. A first class structure is needed to produce England players, but if you started from scratch, you wouldn't have 18 teams. |
How have the Australians organised their cricket structure/s? They seem pretty successful! so if we were starting from scratch, I’d definitely be having a look at theirs. |  |
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| The Hundred on 09:46 - Aug 18 with 558 views | Radlett_blue |
| The Hundred on 08:59 - Aug 18 by rkc123 |
The T20 blast would also sell out grounds, during the English summer there are enough people who are happy to go and watch a fun few hours of cricket that tickets will always sell for whatever the centrepiece shortform tournament happens to be. The TV viewing figures of The Hundred though are not good, the free to air games have seen a steady decline in viewers since its first year. They seem to have drawn in the required interest of investment funds, billionaire families, and proto chemical companies (surely the dream of every young cricketer) to make the whole thing churn along and make money for the ECB.
It was obviously 20 years ago now, but when you consider peak viewing figures for the 2005 ashes on channel 4 were around 6-8 million, and the final of the mens hundred last year was 1.3 million (on BBC), I think it is fair to say the format has not fully tapped the potential viewership for the sport. |
The 2005 Ashes did capture a lot of people's imagination & drew big TV figures, but that was a one-off & the televised sport market is so much more fragmented now that it's not really relevant to the current situation. What I will say about 20/20 & the 100 is that while I don't like the format & rarely watch it, I have been to a few live games & the demographic is completely different from Test cricket - more young people, more families & more ethnic minorities. The development of short format was essential if cricket is to remain relevant, rather than a sport for pensioners & lads on a stag day. | |
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| The Hundred on 10:25 - Aug 18 with 535 views | mellowblue |
| The Hundred on 00:10 - Aug 18 by Kievthegreat |
The fundamental issue with the hundred isn't the 100 balls vs 20 overs, the razzmatazz, etc... It's about the massively side-lining of smaller counties. It's the English Cricket equivalent of the European Super League or the Premier League abolishing relegation, except rather than admonish the proposal like the FA, UEFA, et al did/would, the ECB were the driving force.
It would have been possible to setup a 2 division T20 Blast in a good slot in summer. That way you can concentrate some real talent in those top tier overseas talent in those teams in division 1 while giving the division 2 teams a meaningful competition and way back to the top table.
Instead they set up franchises that will bring an influx of private equity funds to buy stakes in closed shop league (although weighted against an enormous investment by the ECB to kick start their plan). At the moment it's Northants/Leicestershire/Derbyshire that suffer. Eventually though Essex and Sussex, teams that are well run and competitive(for the most part) will find themselves economically strangled. Essex are big enough to compete right now, but too small to be allowed a seat at the private equity league table. |
I am no friend of the Hundred, awful format. But surely on of the major points of selling the Hundred to the franchises is to safeguard the traditional counties. They are set to receive quite a few million each to build reserves reduce debt and improve infrastructure. If put in reserves, invested wisely it should generate enough to keep the smaller counties solvent. Of course the bigger counties who host the Hundred test matches etc will do better than the smaller counties, but that has always been the case, though Surrey is currently turning into the Man City of 5 years ago, massively advantaged.
Another point raised is the T20 Blast lasts from May to September. This has been criticised heavily . They play all the group games in May and then put it aside until September for finals day, by which time all momentum is gone. Patently absurd and finals day should be early June when generally the weather is reliable and the day is long.
Re the Hundred, once it is fully or partly franchise owned, it will revert to T20. It is bound to. Having an international series of franchise cricket competitions 7 or whatever t20 and 1 the Hundred will not make sense to the franchise owners.
Having two t20 competitions nationally will be okay, they are not directly competing with eachother and will have very different flavours, will be seperated by almost 2 months and have different support bases.
On another note, I have always thought it a shame that the ECB cancelled the old John Player League 40 over competition on Sundays. Always got good crowds and was a proper afternoon out for families. | | | |
| The Hundred on 11:17 - Aug 18 with 509 views | Radlett_blue |
| The Hundred on 10:25 - Aug 18 by mellowblue |
I am no friend of the Hundred, awful format. But surely on of the major points of selling the Hundred to the franchises is to safeguard the traditional counties. They are set to receive quite a few million each to build reserves reduce debt and improve infrastructure. If put in reserves, invested wisely it should generate enough to keep the smaller counties solvent. Of course the bigger counties who host the Hundred test matches etc will do better than the smaller counties, but that has always been the case, though Surrey is currently turning into the Man City of 5 years ago, massively advantaged.
Another point raised is the T20 Blast lasts from May to September. This has been criticised heavily . They play all the group games in May and then put it aside until September for finals day, by which time all momentum is gone. Patently absurd and finals day should be early June when generally the weather is reliable and the day is long.
Re the Hundred, once it is fully or partly franchise owned, it will revert to T20. It is bound to. Having an international series of franchise cricket competitions 7 or whatever t20 and 1 the Hundred will not make sense to the franchise owners.
Having two t20 competitions nationally will be okay, they are not directly competing with eachother and will have very different flavours, will be seperated by almost 2 months and have different support bases.
On another note, I have always thought it a shame that the ECB cancelled the old John Player League 40 over competition on Sundays. Always got good crowds and was a proper afternoon out for families. |
I used to love the JPL, both when watching Essex live in the 1970s & also on TV. The big difference is that then there was nothing else to watch on most Sunday afternoons.
The fixture list has changed beyond all recognition & in England is now a complete mess, but I find it hard to see what will change, given that England have to play a certain number of games each summer to fulfil their Sky contract, while the Blast & the Hundred both bring in money. So the county championship has long been pushed to the fringes. | |
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| The Hundred on 11:29 - Aug 18 with 499 views | Ryorry |
| The Hundred on 09:18 - Aug 18 by Tony73 |
I support any attempt to get new audiences watching and participating in cricket as helps the game top to bottom - only issue I have with it is theres no obvious connection with any team. I follow Essex so can't really see any affiliation with the 100 sides in the same way someone from Birmingham, Manchester or Wales might have |
Lack of any possible affinity is another big negative for me too - the names of the teams are completely disconnected from anything I know - no local or other connection to even remotely hook me in. | |
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| The Hundred on 11:59 - Aug 18 with 480 views | mellowblue |
| The Hundred on 11:29 - Aug 18 by Ryorry |
Lack of any possible affinity is another big negative for me too - the names of the teams are completely disconnected from anything I know - no local or other connection to even remotely hook me in. |
And it is not as if the players, playing for them have any regional affiliation to them either. Jonny Bairstow playing for Welsh Fire is just odd. As a young un, his dad was my second favourite cricketer after Sir Geoffrey. | | | |
| The Hundred on 12:11 - Aug 18 with 468 views | Radlett_blue |
| The Hundred on 11:59 - Aug 18 by mellowblue |
And it is not as if the players, playing for them have any regional affiliation to them either. Jonny Bairstow playing for Welsh Fire is just odd. As a young un, his dad was my second favourite cricketer after Sir Geoffrey. |
I agree that the likes of Bairstow not playing for Yorkshire (or whatever the Leeds franchise is called) is dumb. While I think the team names are naff, there is evidence that kids are wearing replica shirts at 100 games & eventually they may build up some loyalty. However, couldn't this have been done by using some of the existing counties? Warwickshire already play in the blast as Birmingham Bears, while the 100 franchise is called Birmingham Phoenix. | |
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| The Hundred on 12:27 - Aug 18 with 453 views | mellowblue |
| The Hundred on 12:11 - Aug 18 by Radlett_blue |
I agree that the likes of Bairstow not playing for Yorkshire (or whatever the Leeds franchise is called) is dumb. While I think the team names are naff, there is evidence that kids are wearing replica shirts at 100 games & eventually they may build up some loyalty. However, couldn't this have been done by using some of the existing counties? Warwickshire already play in the blast as Birmingham Bears, while the 100 franchise is called Birmingham Phoenix. |
Hate all this fake branding. Strangely Yorkshire were Yorkshire Phoenix for a few years before becoming Vikings and now Birmingham pop up with the Phoenix name. Have they no imagination. Personally I think Warwickshire County should work on it's own brand recognition and loyalty and keep the Warwickshire name in all 3 competitions it plays in and drop the Birmingham. I doubt the franchise owing the Brum Phoenix will like Warwickshire using their own brand identifier. | | | |
| The Hundred on 12:57 - Aug 18 with 422 views | stonojnr |
| The Hundred on 09:56 - Aug 17 by azuremerlangus |
Watched it last night - kicking myself I didn’t get organised and get some tickets for it.
Anyway, certainly a further evolvement from T20 - and its simplistic format and style appear to be geared for the U.S market perhaps? It reminded me of Baseball from the feel of the TV coverage.
I prefer test cricket TBH but there is nothing not to like in this format. |
It presents a real risk toTest cricket in this country and abroad.
Note how we rushed through the series with India, which led to injuries of key players and we aren't playing Test cricket in August because the ECB just want the Hundred to be the game.
Players aren't learning how to play longer forms of the game anymore because our domestic calendar is also crushed to make way for the hundred, so we aren't developing new world class bowlers or world class batsmen.
Ive got nothing against T20, or even a T20 franchise league but the ECB could have spent all the cash they splurged on the hundred promoting that. And actually as custodians of the game their job should be to protect all forms of the game, but they dont care as all they see are $$$$ signs from a franchise and a broadcaster who was too concerned an audience would get bored watching a normal game.
It's a joke competition, if that makes me a snob so be it for calling it out for what it is | | | |
| The Hundred on 13:05 - Aug 18 with 410 views | stonojnr |
| The Hundred on 18:49 - Aug 17 by Zx1988 |
Last night's score feels a bit of an outlier in the broader context of this year's competition.
I don't know if it's deliberate, or a result of the much drier weather we've had this year, but the pitches seem a lot more balanced, and it seems an awful lot harder to break the 130 mark.
Much more interesting, in my eyes, than the 'who can score the highest 200+ score' format that the IPL has become. |
You do know the boundaries are smaller for this ? even if it gets tonked into the stand its passing fielders with no chance for them to catch it, or put doubt in the batsmen mind they might mistime it and slew it wrong.
It's like I saw they had a MLB Home run competition in the US. Now normally in a game of baseball only the very best hit the ball consistently or score home runs in game situations. In this competition with no fielders and basically just a machine setup for batting practice, they could hit every ball and were all hitting multiple home runs in their 3min slots, if they played like that in real games you'd see basketball type scores.
The point being there's no skill required if you tip all the odds in the guy with the bats favour. | | | |
| The Hundred on 13:11 - Aug 18 with 402 views | mellowblue |
| The Hundred on 12:57 - Aug 18 by stonojnr |
It presents a real risk toTest cricket in this country and abroad.
Note how we rushed through the series with India, which led to injuries of key players and we aren't playing Test cricket in August because the ECB just want the Hundred to be the game.
Players aren't learning how to play longer forms of the game anymore because our domestic calendar is also crushed to make way for the hundred, so we aren't developing new world class bowlers or world class batsmen.
Ive got nothing against T20, or even a T20 franchise league but the ECB could have spent all the cash they splurged on the hundred promoting that. And actually as custodians of the game their job should be to protect all forms of the game, but they dont care as all they see are $$$$ signs from a franchise and a broadcaster who was too concerned an audience would get bored watching a normal game.
It's a joke competition, if that makes me a snob so be it for calling it out for what it is |
Trying to squeeze a 5 match series in between the IPL and Hundred was too tight. Players need to insist on the customary week's break between tests.
The hundred was a bold move and has proved to be a golden goose. The money raised will safeguard counties if they are sensible with the money. If we had stayed with the status quo, I am not sure how some counties would have survived.
Yes it is a joke competition to us cricket purists. The ECB has sold it's soul, but the amount of money raised is huge. As long as it does not end up in Rob Keys' pocket. | | | |
| The Hundred on 13:13 - Aug 18 with 397 views | norfsufblue |
| The Hundred on 11:17 - Aug 18 by Radlett_blue |
I used to love the JPL, both when watching Essex live in the 1970s & also on TV. The big difference is that then there was nothing else to watch on most Sunday afternoons.
The fixture list has changed beyond all recognition & in England is now a complete mess, but I find it hard to see what will change, given that England have to play a certain number of games each summer to fulfil their Sky contract, while the Blast & the Hundred both bring in money. So the county championship has long been pushed to the fringes. |
In my opinion the blast would be perfect for Sunday afternoons along the championship games as the JPL was! |  | | |
| The Hundred on 13:33 - Aug 18 with 378 views | Cheshire_Tractor |
The biggest problem for me is that the teams only cater for certain areas. They talk about going after work, but that only works if you are nearby. If you live in Ipswich there is a big difference of travelling an hour to Chelmsford for a T20 and going to Lord's (and why would you want to support a team called London anyway?)
Similar story in other areas. In the north east you have to travel down to Leeds and cricket fans from Somerset are supposed to support Welsh Fire.
Mind you, I say that as an Ipswich fan born in Cheshire so I'm not sure even I back up my argument. |  | | |
| The Hundred on 13:40 - Aug 18 with 364 views | Kievthegreat |
| The Hundred on 10:25 - Aug 18 by mellowblue |
I am no friend of the Hundred, awful format. But surely on of the major points of selling the Hundred to the franchises is to safeguard the traditional counties. They are set to receive quite a few million each to build reserves reduce debt and improve infrastructure. If put in reserves, invested wisely it should generate enough to keep the smaller counties solvent. Of course the bigger counties who host the Hundred test matches etc will do better than the smaller counties, but that has always been the case, though Surrey is currently turning into the Man City of 5 years ago, massively advantaged.
Another point raised is the T20 Blast lasts from May to September. This has been criticised heavily . They play all the group games in May and then put it aside until September for finals day, by which time all momentum is gone. Patently absurd and finals day should be early June when generally the weather is reliable and the day is long.
Re the Hundred, once it is fully or partly franchise owned, it will revert to T20. It is bound to. Having an international series of franchise cricket competitions 7 or whatever t20 and 1 the Hundred will not make sense to the franchise owners.
Having two t20 competitions nationally will be okay, they are not directly competing with eachother and will have very different flavours, will be seperated by almost 2 months and have different support bases.
On another note, I have always thought it a shame that the ECB cancelled the old John Player League 40 over competition on Sundays. Always got good crowds and was a proper afternoon out for families. |
With regards to scheduling, the Hundred is the reason for that gap in the Blast games. You can't have the Blast games going on at the same time as the Hundred because all the top players are away AND the Hundred grounds will be unavailable.
It's not really a fair criticism of the Blast Vs the Hundred when it's in place because the Hundred > Blast to the ECB. [Post edited 18 Aug 15:38]
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| The Hundred on 14:43 - Aug 18 with 325 views | Radlett_blue |
| The Hundred on 13:05 - Aug 18 by stonojnr |
You do know the boundaries are smaller for this ? even if it gets tonked into the stand its passing fielders with no chance for them to catch it, or put doubt in the batsmen mind they might mistime it and slew it wrong.
It's like I saw they had a MLB Home run competition in the US. Now normally in a game of baseball only the very best hit the ball consistently or score home runs in game situations. In this competition with no fielders and basically just a machine setup for batting practice, they could hit every ball and were all hitting multiple home runs in their 3min slots, if they played like that in real games you'd see basketball type scores.
The point being there's no skill required if you tip all the odds in the guy with the bats favour. |
Indeed, the boundaries are often brought in farcically as the organisers assume the crowds want to see sixes (or Maximums!). England also brought the boundaries in for most of the Tests against India, in once instance breaching ICC rules, presumably because they felt this would benefit England's Bazball power hitters. | |
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| The Hundred on 16:41 - Aug 18 with 293 views | mellowblue |
| The Hundred on 13:40 - Aug 18 by Kievthegreat |
With regards to scheduling, the Hundred is the reason for that gap in the Blast games. You can't have the Blast games going on at the same time as the Hundred because all the top players are away AND the Hundred grounds will be unavailable.
It's not really a fair criticism of the Blast Vs the Hundred when it's in place because the Hundred > Blast to the ECB. [Post edited 18 Aug 15:38]
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Err they wouldn't be. The last t20 group match ended 6 weeks before the hundred began. There were a few rounds of county matches and the tests in between. The two competitions are kept well apart for obvious reasons. they could easily have started the t20 a week earlier as you would need to allow a week for ticket sales etc. for the finals day. The finals daty would then have it's own slot a week before the first test against India. I should be organizing this stuff. | | | |
| The Hundred on 16:51 - Aug 18 with 279 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| The Hundred on 09:46 - Aug 18 by Radlett_blue |
The 2005 Ashes did capture a lot of people's imagination & drew big TV figures, but that was a one-off & the televised sport market is so much more fragmented now that it's not really relevant to the current situation. What I will say about 20/20 & the 100 is that while I don't like the format & rarely watch it, I have been to a few live games & the demographic is completely different from Test cricket - more young people, more families & more ethnic minorities. The development of short format was essential if cricket is to remain relevant, rather than a sport for pensioners & lads on a stag day. |
The 2005 Ashes captured the Public imagination in part because they were broadcast free-to-view on Channel 4, who also put considerable effort into revolutionising broadcasting of cricket int this country. They made cricket fun and maybe even cool. They even paid an unemployed actor to dress up as WG Grace and hype up the crowd. (Comedy fans: do you know who that was?)
Then the fcking ECB sold their soul to Sky and took Test cricket off free-to-view television. The most stupid decision imaginable. | | | |
| The Hundred on 16:59 - Aug 18 with 267 views | mellowblue |
| The Hundred on 16:51 - Aug 18 by ArnoldMoorhen |
The 2005 Ashes captured the Public imagination in part because they were broadcast free-to-view on Channel 4, who also put considerable effort into revolutionising broadcasting of cricket int this country. They made cricket fun and maybe even cool. They even paid an unemployed actor to dress up as WG Grace and hype up the crowd. (Comedy fans: do you know who that was?)
Then the fcking ECB sold their soul to Sky and took Test cricket off free-to-view television. The most stupid decision imaginable. |
The unemployed actor, no idea.
Comedy connection. WG Grace was obviously the founding father of Grace Brothers the retailer in "Are You Being served" Or not. | | | |
| The Hundred on 17:33 - Aug 18 with 249 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| The Hundred on 16:59 - Aug 18 by mellowblue |
The unemployed actor, no idea.
Comedy connection. WG Grace was obviously the founding father of Grace Brothers the retailer in "Are You Being served" Or not. |
It was the Taskmaster himself, Greg Davies, who spent the summer dressed as WG Grace and getting drunk with the proto-Barmy Army.
Number 9 in this list, and the photo at the top of the article.
https://www.wisden.com/cricket-features/the-ten-impersonations-from-flintoffs-el | | | |
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