| Have the owners 13:02 - Aug 21 with 5951 views | cressi |
Lost interest and are pocketing the money before they sell up and disappear into the night as so far this window has been underwhelming and it feels like our soul has been ripped out. |  | | |  |
| Have the owners on 15:15 - Aug 21 with 1485 views | blueoutlook |
| Have the owners on 14:48 - Aug 21 by jasondozzell |
Where you here when an ageing Stephen Ward at LB was the standout signing? And that's with the greatest respect to Stephen Ward who had a good career.
That's a damp squib. Not this. |
I can go further back than that. John Duncan era, Graham Harby era. I’ve seen it all for a long time,so I do know what bad looks like. Yes, we are in a much better place
than we were but Ashton hasn’t helped himself here by saying we need to be aggressive in our signings this summer. The fact we were virtually down in April, meant they had time to prepare,they even said as much. Yet here we are,one week to go seemingly exhausted all options and now looking at the equivalent of Stricly coming dancings C and D list celebrity guests. |  | | |
| Have the owners on 15:45 - Aug 21 with 1424 views | Herbivore |
| Have the owners on 15:15 - Aug 21 by Dubtractor |
Ffs.
This place is pretty depressing at the moment. I think I might give the forum a swerve for a bit if it stays this way much longer. |
Yeah, agreed. It's getting VERY tedious with the sheer volume of over the top negative dross. So dull and repetitive. |  |
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| Have the owners on 16:19 - Aug 21 with 1353 views | Blueschev |
| Have the owners on 13:07 - Aug 21 by CastroSito |
But it would have if the player agreed to the move? Therefore, the owners were ok with paying £20m. |
They gave up they follow day. It was the straw that broke the camels back. 'No Hackney, no party' they were quoted as saying as they put the club up for sale. |  | | |
| Have the owners on 17:02 - Aug 21 with 1269 views | MeltonBlue |
| Have the owners on 14:46 - Aug 21 by Herbivore |
You don't think Cajuste, Matusiwa, Akpom, and Kipre are good signings? They are all, at the very least, top end Championship players and a couple of them should be able to step up to the Prem. If you feel that aren't good signings, who else has moved in this window that you think we should have signed instead? |
I think they are all good signings at this level, but I think 3/4 of them being loans has made them feel more negative than they would have been if they were permanent. If we don’t go up, there will be another big squad turnover which ironically the club has said this summer has been more than expected… just doesn’t feel like we have spent anything considering the sales we have generated. | | | |
| Have the owners on 17:08 - Aug 21 with 1236 views | Herbivore |
| Have the owners on 17:02 - Aug 21 by MeltonBlue |
I think they are all good signings at this level, but I think 3/4 of them being loans has made them feel more negative than they would have been if they were permanent. If we don’t go up, there will be another big squad turnover which ironically the club has said this summer has been more than expected… just doesn’t feel like we have spent anything considering the sales we have generated. |
They are all loans who will stay if we go up, surely that's a better option than committing large sums to sign them up permanently? In Cajuste's case at least, I doubt he'd have been up for signing permanently now either. If they are good players then it's good business, imo. And bear in mind, we still have to pay for these players, both a loan fee and wages. | |
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| Have the owners on 17:11 - Aug 21 with 1232 views | J2BLUE |
Genuinely lol'd at our soul has been ripped out.
F##k me. Such an overreaction. |  |
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| Have the owners on 17:12 - Aug 21 with 1220 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Have the owners on 17:02 - Aug 21 by MeltonBlue |
I think they are all good signings at this level, but I think 3/4 of them being loans has made them feel more negative than they would have been if they were permanent. If we don’t go up, there will be another big squad turnover which ironically the club has said this summer has been more than expected… just doesn’t feel like we have spent anything considering the sales we have generated. |
Whether we buy or loan, there will be a big turnover next summer if we don't get promoted. We're recruiting in preparation for a promotion season, with a view to keeping some squad stability on our return.
If we're not promoted, parachute money drops significantly, and we'll need to cut our cloth to match. That would involve selling players if everything was on a permanent. This way we have the best of both worlds - if we fail to go up, the squad is automatically adjusted and we backfill within a revised and reduced 26/27 budget. If we're promoted, we retain the loanees with an obligation to buy, and the ball is in our court as to which we hold onto for our next shot at the PL, and which we loan / sell.
The approach the club has taken is prudent and keeps us in control. | | | |
| Have the owners on 17:17 - Aug 21 with 1188 views | LeoMuff |
| Have the owners on 14:39 - Aug 21 by blueoutlook |
See,I think some people need to take the rose tinted glasses off. We aren’t going up. We haven’t recruited like a team going up. Ashtons comments about being aggressive in the transfer market has become a damp squib. It’s why people are wetting the bed (as the same b@ll sacks need to keep saying). It’s been an awaful transfer market so far this summer however you like to dress it up. |
It was always going to be very hard, we have also been unlucky with injuries with CTs ACL, the Spanish lad falling through for unknown reasons.
We have recruited well with some top end champ players and hopefully 3 more upcoming. Not sure how we can come to the not going up conclusion after 2 games ? |  |
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| Have the owners on 17:31 - Aug 21 with 1121 views | MeltonBlue |
| Have the owners on 17:08 - Aug 21 by Herbivore |
They are all loans who will stay if we go up, surely that's a better option than committing large sums to sign them up permanently? In Cajuste's case at least, I doubt he'd have been up for signing permanently now either. If they are good players then it's good business, imo. And bear in mind, we still have to pay for these players, both a loan fee and wages. |
Whilst I agree, loans also hold no sell on value which goes against (player trading) as what has been said needs to be our strategy with young players (Omari, Delap, Leif, Jaden, Clarke)
I should of said that my post in no way was meant to come across as a negative one and am fully behind the club but our summer transfer window has so far (all could change in the next week) has been different to previous windows by signing older players on loan. | | | |
| Have the owners on 17:44 - Aug 21 with 1075 views | OldFart71 |
The problem we have is that it just didn't work out last season and because of that a big rethink has been going on . In that are those we had through last season and some from further back good enough and the answer has clearly came back no.
But then when you also lose the likes of Hutchinson and Delap which were almost certain, to replace them at a lesser cost in a rising market is very difficult.
Given that the players we are targeting either do not want to leave their clubs, want Premier League football or would rather play abroad and added to that other clubs in the Championship also want them it makes it even harder to get them in. | | | |
| Have the owners on 18:06 - Aug 21 with 1018 views | braveblue |
Pathetic | | | |
| Have the owners on 18:58 - Aug 21 with 914 views | Paramedic |
| Have the owners on 15:15 - Aug 21 by blueoutlook |
I can go further back than that. John Duncan era, Graham Harby era. I’ve seen it all for a long time,so I do know what bad looks like. Yes, we are in a much better place
than we were but Ashton hasn’t helped himself here by saying we need to be aggressive in our signings this summer. The fact we were virtually down in April, meant they had time to prepare,they even said as much. Yet here we are,one week to go seemingly exhausted all options and now looking at the equivalent of Stricly coming dancings C and D list celebrity guests. |
I used to follow Town home and away in the Ferguson and Duncan era. After watching the Robson sides of the late 70s and early 80s, it was something to get used to, but we still got behind the teams and had a good laugh.
Move forward 40 odd years, we are a modern football club, owned by people who want nothing but success for our club, but will go about it in a thoughtful, business like way, not like a kid in a sweet shop. We are currently very lucky supporters in comparison to the old days (it was a different world back then). Some people would do well to sound more humble and sound less spoilt when they post. |  |
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| Have the owners on 19:27 - Aug 21 with 865 views | BlueBadger |
Can't believe this has gotten fewer downvote than Smug-Gate.
Also - give over, you great fanny. [Post edited 21 Aug 19:27]
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| Have the owners on 19:28 - Aug 21 with 860 views | BlueBadger |
| Have the owners on 15:45 - Aug 21 by Herbivore |
Yeah, agreed. It's getting VERY tedious with the sheer volume of over the top negative dross. So dull and repetitive. |
And REALLY obviously Budgie adjacent, at very least. | |
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| Have the owners on 02:09 - Aug 22 with 607 views | IPS_wich |
I'll accept on face value that you're a Town fan and have been for many years - but jesus wept that is probably the worst take amongst hundreds of s**t takes this summer.
Let's the clear about one thing - there are probably only about a dozen employees in Ipswich's history that our part of our soul - Cobbolds, Pat Godbold, Ramsay, Robson, Crawford, Wark, Beattie, Mills, Butcher, Stockwell, Burley; and that's about it.
It's the thousands and thousands of Town fans across the globe - those fans (and I'm including you despite the ridiculousness of your original post) are our lifeblood, our DNA, our SOUL - whether that's a wet midweek night in Birmingham, getting up at 3am down under to watch the stream because you have to watch it in real time, or the 29,000+ who turned up at Portman Rd less than five days ago.
Love Morsy and sad to see him move on, but by the sounds of his contract offer he would have been mad to turn it down. How on earth did you cope when players like Wark, Butcher and Mills moved on when the Robson team was being dismantled??!! | | | |
| Have the owners on 07:53 - Aug 22 with 390 views | bluebud |
| Have the owners on 13:34 - Aug 21 by NthQldITFC |
Try to understand the following:
1. We are favourites for the league.
2. We have a great manager and the nucleus of a strong squad.
3. We have a lot of cash available and a lot of PSR headroom...
4. ...therefore we are shopping in the lower Premier League/elite Championship/elitish foreign markets.
5. ...therefore we have to wait a little to pick up the right players as we've not at the top of the queue for them.
6. If we don't land those targets, we have better backups still available to us than pretty much the rest of the Championship (except maybe Southampton) can lay their hands on.
7. BE PATIENT and stop getting your knickers in a twist. |
Agree with everything you say apart from 6.
We blatantly don't have better back ups than 22 other teams in the Champ, our squad is actually light in comparison to others with more question marks....goalkeepers and midfield especially and up front we are nowhere near where we were. |  | | |
| Have the owners on 07:56 - Aug 22 with 380 views | NthQldITFC |
| Have the owners on 07:53 - Aug 22 by bluebud |
Agree with everything you say apart from 6.
We blatantly don't have better back ups than 22 other teams in the Champ, our squad is actually light in comparison to others with more question marks....goalkeepers and midfield especially and up front we are nowhere near where we were. |
Sorry, I was unclear there - when I said backups in that context I meant backup transfer targets (ones who are waiting for us in much the same way that Hackney is possibly waiting for Spurs or another PL club.) |  |
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| Have the owners on 08:05 - Aug 22 with 357 views | GlasgowBlue |
As others have said, we’ve out in big money offers for players who have either turned us down or failed medical, so I don’t believe you are correct.
As I’ve stated in another thread, if anything we’ve been over ambitious with our targets. So no lack of financial commitment.
As for our soul being ripped out? That feeling is understandable as we’ve seen the majority of our League One promotion legends depart the club. We’ve moved very quickly since that promotion in 2023. We’re not plucky Ipswich anymore. So there will be some disconnect as we see new faces come in. Just wait until Wolfy and Chappers depart.
I said at the time we went up in 2024, we will never experience anything like that again. It was special. Now it’s expected. [Post edited 22 Aug 8:14]
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| Have the owners on 08:33 - Aug 22 with 312 views | bluebud |
| Have the owners on 08:05 - Aug 22 by GlasgowBlue |
As others have said, we’ve out in big money offers for players who have either turned us down or failed medical, so I don’t believe you are correct.
As I’ve stated in another thread, if anything we’ve been over ambitious with our targets. So no lack of financial commitment.
As for our soul being ripped out? That feeling is understandable as we’ve seen the majority of our League One promotion legends depart the club. We’ve moved very quickly since that promotion in 2023. We’re not plucky Ipswich anymore. So there will be some disconnect as we see new faces come in. Just wait until Wolfy and Chappers depart.
I said at the time we went up in 2024, we will never experience anything like that again. It was special. Now it’s expected. [Post edited 22 Aug 8:14]
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I don't know about souls being ripped out, owners or correct levels of investment.
I know we haven't won in 10 league games and we really should have won one of the last two....we definitely need to win the next. | | | |
| Have the owners on 08:45 - Aug 22 with 274 views | Vic |
| Have the owners on 14:53 - Aug 21 by blueoutlook |
Cajuste was in a team that got relegated. He is fine,but don’t think he has the legs for a championship season. Akpom and Kipre are championship players,neither have played in the Prem. Decent,yes, but telling that no one had considered them for the PL. Kipre is only back up even now.Matusiwa isn’t going to rip it up it will take him most of the season to get to grips with the championship. |
BO - apart from being a blues supporter for over 50 yrs what credentials have you got that show you are a better judge of players than McKenna and Ashton? Overall they haven’t done a bad job so far; let’s give them a couple of months to see if last year was a set back or the new normal. |  |
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| Have the owners on 08:56 - Aug 22 with 236 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Have the owners on 16:19 - Aug 21 by Blueschev |
They gave up they follow day. It was the straw that broke the camels back. 'No Hackney, no party' they were quoted as saying as they put the club up for sale. |
Last seen legging it down Portman Road with a large sack in a wheelbarrow. There are conflicting reports as to whether the sack contains the contents of the Planet Blue cash registers, the trophy cabinet or the body of Mark Ashton… |  |
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| Have the owners on 09:35 - Aug 22 with 164 views | CastroSito |
Another sign of the owners giving up, dropping 10+M on a rotation winger.
Where has our soul gone? | | | |
| Have the owners on 09:38 - Aug 22 with 155 views | HighgateBlue |
| Have the owners on 09:35 - Aug 22 by CastroSito |
Another sign of the owners giving up, dropping 10+M on a rotation winger.
Where has our soul gone? |
I would be the first to caution against assuming the owners can do no wrong.
But you can't criticise them for making £10m+ available for a player that Kieran wants to sign. And you can't criticise them for allowing Kieran to choose whom to sign without meddling.
At this moment in time I'm very underwhelmed with the prospect of signing McAteer, especially for that fee, but it's surely not the owners' fault? |  | | |
| Have the owners on 10:15 - Aug 22 with 92 views | oldbeardy |
Glass half full says it could all look great after some fantastic and ambitious player acquisitions in the last few days of the window (when they are most likely to happen) and a couple of wins. Glass half empty says we were warned in the Brett email that the club were looking to raise money to attract new investment, that's what's happening; that the plan to prioritise player retention has failed; and that we look disjointed and behind where we need to be on the pitch as a result. A degree of pessimism is allowed and understandable based on events so far. | | | |
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