| Eternal Optimist? 07:37 - Aug 25 with 1426 views | Samuelowen88 |
Maybe I'm an eternal Optimist or blinkered, but I do feel thag when this team clicks it's going to be pretty unstoppable.
The issue I guess is how long it takes.
Just get the feeling there will be something that just kick starts everything. [Post edited 25 Aug 7:51]
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| Eternal Optimist? on 07:47 - Aug 25 with 1359 views | WestSussexBlue |
I’m not sure we’ll be “unstoppable”, I just don’t see enough individual quality, we can and hopefully will however have a good enough season to be in the Promotion shake up come next May. |  | | |
| Eternal Optimist? on 07:50 - Aug 25 with 1337 views | lurcher |
I think we will stutter into life. It wont be like flicking a switch, but we will gradually get going with some ups and downs. At some point we will give someone a real hiding.
We will be in the mix when it matters. |  | | |
| Eternal Optimist? on 07:51 - Aug 25 with 1316 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
Indeed. We need a couple of additions, but from what I've seen the issues so far are things that will improve through coaching and understanding the systems. These players haven't become bad overnight. And they won't become a flowing cohesive unit overnight either.
Matusiwa and Philogene being cases in point. Matusiwa is getting more up to speed with the Champ with every game, both look quality players... but both look like they're not entirely sure where they're meant to be at times, and don't have clear understandings of where their teammates will be. I've even seen both getting in the way of other teammates! All this will improve over training and matches, and like you say, when it clicks it'll be devastating. |  |
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| Eternal Optimist? on 07:55 - Aug 25 with 1291 views | SlimTeaBoy |
| Eternal Optimist? on 07:51 - Aug 25 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Indeed. We need a couple of additions, but from what I've seen the issues so far are things that will improve through coaching and understanding the systems. These players haven't become bad overnight. And they won't become a flowing cohesive unit overnight either.
Matusiwa and Philogene being cases in point. Matusiwa is getting more up to speed with the Champ with every game, both look quality players... but both look like they're not entirely sure where they're meant to be at times, and don't have clear understandings of where their teammates will be. I've even seen both getting in the way of other teammates! All this will improve over training and matches, and like you say, when it clicks it'll be devastating. |
Very poor options at 9, this is what is, and will ruin our chances | | | |
| Eternal Optimist? on 07:56 - Aug 25 with 1290 views | franz_tyson |
I'm not sure about unstoppable, too. Not enough physicality up top and we've stopped scoring goals.
I came into this season hoping for top six.... and that's still on.
I've never understood why so many believed we were top two. We haven't played well for over a season and only won 4 games last season. To be top 2 you've got to win 26, 27, 28 games ... and I can't see us doing that, even after dropping down a level.
Top six is do-able. I'm sticking with that.... and we could still with a few sticky months. | | | |
| Eternal Optimist? on 08:02 - Aug 25 with 1255 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Eternal Optimist? on 07:55 - Aug 25 by SlimTeaBoy |
Very poor options at 9, this is what is, and will ruin our chances |
I love how Hirst has suddenly become a bad player overnight and is being blamed for the lack of service he's received so far. [Post edited 25 Aug 8:02]
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| Eternal Optimist? on 08:08 - Aug 25 with 1213 views | PioneerBlue |
Nothing has changed in terms of my hopes. Top 2 is certainly possible with the squad we have, nothing is guaranteed and top 6 is a must.
We’ve had a slow start after losing a few more players than expected and not securing players in positions hoped for. The slow start was probably an 80% possibly given the last year and the typical relegation hangover.
If we are still stuttering after the international break by the end of Sept we might raise the alarm a bit louder over where things stand.
I actually think our performances have improved. We are remembering how to score goals and win football matches, plus add to that a player or two and we will have the depth and quality to make a real go at the league through the Autumn. [Post edited 25 Aug 8:10]
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| Eternal Optimist? on 08:10 - Aug 25 with 1189 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Eternal Optimist? on 08:02 - Aug 25 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I love how Hirst has suddenly become a bad player overnight and is being blamed for the lack of service he's received so far. [Post edited 25 Aug 8:02]
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Hes not a bad player, Similar to some other players, he does imo seem to be trying to be different this season, alot more delap turns, more directive running with the ball, which isn't really what hirst has been about, i do feel we miss his hold up and pass play
he also perhaps could have scored 2, or at least got two shots on target with two excellent balls into the box. |  |
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| Eternal Optimist? on 08:54 - Aug 25 with 1087 views | Wickets |
| Eternal Optimist? on 08:02 - Aug 25 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I love how Hirst has suddenly become a bad player overnight and is being blamed for the lack of service he's received so far. [Post edited 25 Aug 8:02]
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Yes i have said something similar somewhere else , i feel we need a big player in midfield and if he is big in size as well as presence , a driving force if you like, that would be ideal . The need to improve our midfield has been made countless times since last season and the loss of Captain Sam is still being felt , we know the club recognises this and is still trying lets hope it can happen this week as if not it could well be a tough run until Christmas . |  | | |
| Eternal Optimist? on 08:58 - Aug 25 with 1059 views | BeachBlue |
| Eternal Optimist? on 08:02 - Aug 25 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I love how Hirst has suddenly become a bad player overnight and is being blamed for the lack of service he's received so far. [Post edited 25 Aug 8:02]
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I'm a big fan of Hirst. He's not become a bad player by any means. However (and if anyone disagrees that's okay!) I think he's trying to hard right now and it's causing him to run out of steam on 80 minutes (or so). Same with Szmodics who would normally have scored against Birmingham with that chance he had.
We desperately need Akpom to be 100% fit to take some pressure off, but we also need to start getting shots on target. Most importantly we need to start playing with more urgency and less passing around the back four. |  | | |
| Eternal Optimist? on 09:10 - Aug 25 with 1008 views | franz_tyson |
| Eternal Optimist? on 08:58 - Aug 25 by BeachBlue |
I'm a big fan of Hirst. He's not become a bad player by any means. However (and if anyone disagrees that's okay!) I think he's trying to hard right now and it's causing him to run out of steam on 80 minutes (or so). Same with Szmodics who would normally have scored against Birmingham with that chance he had.
We desperately need Akpom to be 100% fit to take some pressure off, but we also need to start getting shots on target. Most importantly we need to start playing with more urgency and less passing around the back four. |
It's not normal he plays all game anyway... or 80 mins.
Think it's normal he'd get subbed on 60 mins... or come on at 60 mins as a sub.
We're missing a 9 who can start or replace Hirst on 60. It's a testament of our ... so far, at least ... underwhelming recruitment that we haven't got that other 9. Maybe Akpom.... but he's seen as more of a 10. | | | |
| Eternal Optimist? on 09:15 - Aug 25 with 982 views | MK1 |
I'm the same. Always look on the brighter side of things.
Hard at the moment without a settled starting X1 and players not really up to speed with the system KM insists on playing.
Sure it will happen, but like you say, the sooner the better. |  |
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| Eternal Optimist? on 09:17 - Aug 25 with 972 views | PioneerBlue |
| Eternal Optimist? on 09:10 - Aug 25 by franz_tyson |
It's not normal he plays all game anyway... or 80 mins.
Think it's normal he'd get subbed on 60 mins... or come on at 60 mins as a sub.
We're missing a 9 who can start or replace Hirst on 60. It's a testament of our ... so far, at least ... underwhelming recruitment that we haven't got that other 9. Maybe Akpom.... but he's seen as more of a 10. |
I’m confused by Akpom. He’s a high cost player that came in around the time we were balancing off loss of Broadhead and potentially OH. It will become clear but unless it’s all round better balance and depth across L10, R10 and Striker (Broady and OH couldn’t offer the Striker cover) then we presumably still need that Striker.
The pursuit of Azon I saw as a replacement for AAH rather than demoting him to third Striker in the squad, I assume the plan was sale or loan until he got injured. | |
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| Eternal Optimist? on 09:19 - Aug 25 with 939 views | MK1 |
| Eternal Optimist? on 07:55 - Aug 25 by SlimTeaBoy |
Very poor options at 9, this is what is, and will ruin our chances |
Hirst is plenty good enough for the Championship. Akpom is plenty good enough as a make shift 9 when required. Sure we are trying to bring in another to help out.
"Very poor options at 9" is over egging it. | |
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| Eternal Optimist? on 09:23 - Aug 25 with 915 views | PioneerBlue |
| Eternal Optimist? on 09:19 - Aug 25 by MK1 |
Hirst is plenty good enough for the Championship. Akpom is plenty good enough as a make shift 9 when required. Sure we are trying to bring in another to help out.
"Very poor options at 9" is over egging it. |
Hirsty is probably the stand out 9 in the Championship, if there is better presumably we are looking to buy them! | |
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| Eternal Optimist? on 09:28 - Aug 25 with 886 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Eternal Optimist? on 09:23 - Aug 25 by PioneerBlue |
Hirsty is probably the stand out 9 in the Championship, if there is better presumably we are looking to buy them! |
I am fairly sure Hirst is the one that suits us best but there are others who are very good at what they do in a different style. Osmajovic achieved more than Hirst did on Saturday but I wouldn't want to be watching him every week and another day he gets booked for diving and has a very ordinary game. |  |
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| Eternal Optimist? on 09:32 - Aug 25 with 859 views | MK1 |
| Eternal Optimist? on 09:23 - Aug 25 by PioneerBlue |
Hirsty is probably the stand out 9 in the Championship, if there is better presumably we are looking to buy them! |
If this Hirsty fella is the stand out 9 in the Championship, can't we buy him? | |
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| Eternal Optimist? on 09:33 - Aug 25 with 847 views | urbanblue |
I'm someone who didn't think we were THAT bad on Saturday. As it was the early hours of the morning when the game finished I went straight to bed. When I woke in the morning and came on the board I was surprised at some of the vitriol towards the team in threads.
We had to bed in a lot of players last season who then got injured. So now we are in a position where we are bedding in new players with players who are still finding their feet.
I believe it will click and that when we do we are going to give somebody a real hammering.
We desperately need another out and out striker though and unfortunately also feel we need a better keeper. [Post edited 25 Aug 9:34]
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| Eternal Optimist? on 09:38 - Aug 25 with 812 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Eternal Optimist? on 07:47 - Aug 25 by WestSussexBlue |
I’m not sure we’ll be “unstoppable”, I just don’t see enough individual quality, we can and hopefully will however have a good enough season to be in the Promotion shake up come next May. |
You don't see enough individual quality?
If (and it's a massive if) we can get them all playing to their full potential, Hirst, Philogene, Szmodics, Jack Clarke, Ogbene, Akpom and Chaplin have about 110 goals in them! | |
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| Eternal Optimist? on 10:05 - Aug 25 with 751 views | billlm |
| Eternal Optimist? on 07:55 - Aug 25 by SlimTeaBoy |
Very poor options at 9, this is what is, and will ruin our chances |
At the moment I agree,
All depends where he see's chuba playing but still need one more,
The last two matches we've flogged Hurst for 90 minutes you can't do that in the modern game, |  | | |
| Eternal Optimist? on 12:11 - Aug 25 with 534 views | gainsboroughblue |
| Eternal Optimist? on 07:47 - Aug 25 by WestSussexBlue |
I’m not sure we’ll be “unstoppable”, I just don’t see enough individual quality, we can and hopefully will however have a good enough season to be in the Promotion shake up come next May. |
It's not the quality that worries me, it's how the strengths of players are utilised and not stunted trying to fit into a system.
On paper, we should absolutely be top 2. |  |
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| Eternal Optimist? on 13:11 - Aug 25 with 437 views | ReusersTown |
| Eternal Optimist? on 07:56 - Aug 25 by franz_tyson |
I'm not sure about unstoppable, too. Not enough physicality up top and we've stopped scoring goals.
I came into this season hoping for top six.... and that's still on.
I've never understood why so many believed we were top two. We haven't played well for over a season and only won 4 games last season. To be top 2 you've got to win 26, 27, 28 games ... and I can't see us doing that, even after dropping down a level.
Top six is do-able. I'm sticking with that.... and we could still with a few sticky months. |
Haven't played well for a season ... You mean just like Burnley, Sheff Utd, Leicester & Southampton last time around as well as Leeds | | | |
| Eternal Optimist? on 13:12 - Aug 25 with 436 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Eternal Optimist? on 10:05 - Aug 25 by billlm |
At the moment I agree,
All depends where he see's chuba playing but still need one more,
The last two matches we've flogged Hurst for 90 minutes you can't do that in the modern game, |
I think a lot of Town fans would happily see Hurst flogged for 90 minutes after all he did while he was here. | |
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| Eternal Optimist? on 18:15 - Aug 25 with 259 views | Linners |
Didn't Sunderland lose 17 games last season? We could be bottom at Halloween and still make the play-offs. Not that anyone would be alive to see it though because everyone's heads will have exploded. |  | | |
| Eternal Optimist? on 18:52 - Aug 25 with 200 views | franz_tyson |
| Eternal Optimist? on 13:11 - Aug 25 by ReusersTown |
Haven't played well for a season ... You mean just like Burnley, Sheff Utd, Leicester & Southampton last time around as well as Leeds |
This is the problem. As soon it was obvious we'd be relegated it was 'assumed' that we'd get re-promoted, because we're a parachute team now. We can puff out our chests and look down on pretty much every other team and we would be better than them. If that was the case... why aren't Luton and Sheff U not re-promoted? Oh.... i see... we're a Burnley... not those two.
No, we haven't played well for a season and it could be tricky getting back to the habit of winning again. | | | |
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