| Our Promotion Team 16:44 - Sep 1 with 1304 views | CustardCream |
Have been treated appallingly. The players that got us up two divisions suddenly dropped en masse in the Premier League to be replaced by high earners (who didn’t keep us up). Then they get left on the bench once we come back down or moved on.
I love my club but I don’t like how Wolfy, Broadhead, Chaplin and probably Burns when he’s fit have been treated and can’t blame them for wanting to leave.
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| Our Promotion Team on 16:48 - Sep 1 with 1112 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Adapt and change or die. Theres no room for sentimentality.
On paper we've replaced them with better players.
I'd suggest everyone gives them a chance to prove it before writing the whole thing off. |  |
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| Our Promotion Team on 16:48 - Sep 1 with 1103 views | yorkshireblue |
Morsy left on a free for a big pay day.
Woolfie for a cut price deal - so presumably a bump in wages.
Broady & Chappesr gone to their home town clubs. CC, in the last year of his deal so we have essentially given him away for free.
If anything, we've been too nice to these players. At the end of the day, it is a business. |  | | |
| Our Promotion Team on 16:49 - Sep 1 with 1091 views | bsw72 |
It's the business of football, not a Disney film . . . |  | | |
| Our Promotion Team on 16:50 - Sep 1 with 1060 views | positivity |
or treated too well
you could argue that a lot of them have been allowed lucrative moves at below their financial value |  |
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| Our Promotion Team on 16:50 - Sep 1 with 1020 views | waveneyblue |
No they haven't, not in the slightest.
They've actually been treated as individuals incredibly well. Most got better contracts, most got a chance in the Premier League and have now been allowed to get regular football elsewhere.
So your statement is factually bo1locks. |  | | |
| Our Promotion Team on 16:54 - Sep 1 with 915 views | lurcher |
Staying in the premier league was always impossible.
The reality is that Davis and Hutchinson aside none of the side who got us promoted were good enough. |  | | |
| Our Promotion Team on 16:54 - Sep 1 with 897 views | pointofblue |
I think all of them should have been given more of a chance than they have. But they all have good deals at this level. | |
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| Our Promotion Team on 16:54 - Sep 1 with 898 views | _clive_baker_ |
I think they've been treated well, arguably too well. We let Morsy leave for free to set him up for retirement, Chaplin go on loan presumably to facilitate a move he wanted to make back to Pompey, Woolfy sold on the light side because he wanted out despite us not having an oven ready replacement, Broadhead to make his dream move back to Wrexham despite McKenna saying we wanted to keep him (although not entirely altruistic and good money considering his contract situation), Omari gone when we could've held firm in the absence of a clause. |  | | |
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| Our Promotion Team on 16:56 - Sep 1 with 860 views | Nutkins_Return |
They have been treated with absolute respect. Rather then have them sit on bench or not in squad we have allowed them to make moves and for some at lower than market rate to allow it to happen.
You think it would be more respectful to not allow them their wish after what they have done? | |
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| Our Promotion Team on 16:58 - Sep 1 with 830 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Our Promotion Team on 16:54 - Sep 1 by lurcher |
Staying in the premier league was always impossible.
The reality is that Davis and Hutchinson aside none of the side who got us promoted were good enough. |
All of this.
And now that side that wasn't good enough for the Prem is being dismantled and posters don't want it to happen. I want to go up and stay up, not yo-yo like Nodge did.
If that means breaking a few eggs and taking time to get them into our patterns again, then so be it. | |
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| Our Promotion Team on 16:59 - Sep 1 with 796 views | Bellevue_Blue |
Look at Sunderland, whole team replaced before they even got the chance to play PL footy.
Ours were not treated at all badly.
As others have said, evolution a must. | | | |
| Our Promotion Team on 17:00 - Sep 1 with 756 views | positivity |
| Our Promotion Team on 16:54 - Sep 1 by _clive_baker_ |
I think they've been treated well, arguably too well. We let Morsy leave for free to set him up for retirement, Chaplin go on loan presumably to facilitate a move he wanted to make back to Pompey, Woolfy sold on the light side because he wanted out despite us not having an oven ready replacement, Broadhead to make his dream move back to Wrexham despite McKenna saying we wanted to keep him (although not entirely altruistic and good money considering his contract situation), Omari gone when we could've held firm in the absence of a clause. |
you could add in edmondson, ladapo, leigh and harness being given frees or low fee sales | |
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| Our Promotion Team on 17:01 - Sep 1 with 727 views | pointofblue |
| Our Promotion Team on 16:58 - Sep 1 by Cheltenham_Blue |
All of this.
And now that side that wasn't good enough for the Prem is being dismantled and posters don't want it to happen. I want to go up and stay up, not yo-yo like Nodge did.
If that means breaking a few eggs and taking time to get them into our patterns again, then so be it. |
We've got plenty of players here who weren't good enough and more responsible for relegation from the Premier League than the likes of Woolfenden, Burgess, Burns (appreciate he's still here), Broadhead and Chaplin. Let's hope they learn from it for all.our sakes. | |
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| Our Promotion Team on 17:02 - Sep 1 with 703 views | HighgateBlue |
Whether McKenna is still the Messiah, or whether he's the proverbial "very naughty boy", he's surely erudite and polite. I am sure he will have ensured that he and others in the managerial hierarchy communicated well with them, and treated them well.
We have no obligation to keep someone at the club if it is thought that others can do better. The same may be said about McKenna in due course. I hope to high heaven not.
What matters is what's best for the club. That's absolutely clear. If Kieran has made good footballing decisions, then great. We'll do fine. At present I struggle to see that we're a great deal better than 15 months ago having spent a king's ransom. But time will tell. Do we have an upgrade on Chappers, Woolfy, Broady, Morsy, Burns? I hope it will be fun finding out.
Basically Egeli needs to be Ronaldo. But, y'know what, he still might be! |  | | |
| Our Promotion Team on 17:04 - Sep 1 with 630 views | lazyblue |
Sad to see them go but in reality we need to progress to another level. We were lucky to go up as Leeds fell apart and the same players just not good enough to keep us up and that was with Hutchinson and Delap! | | | |
| Our Promotion Team on 17:05 - Sep 1 with 612 views | HighgateBlue |
| Our Promotion Team on 16:54 - Sep 1 by _clive_baker_ |
I think they've been treated well, arguably too well. We let Morsy leave for free to set him up for retirement, Chaplin go on loan presumably to facilitate a move he wanted to make back to Pompey, Woolfy sold on the light side because he wanted out despite us not having an oven ready replacement, Broadhead to make his dream move back to Wrexham despite McKenna saying we wanted to keep him (although not entirely altruistic and good money considering his contract situation), Omari gone when we could've held firm in the absence of a clause. |
The Morsy one is the one that makes me feel most like the club has problems. Any of the others individually I can totally take. If Kieran thinks we've got an upgrade.
Omari I think is just the correct decision. You've got to accept that kind of money when it's on the table, especially if the player is that keen to go. | | | |
| Our Promotion Team on 17:06 - Sep 1 with 573 views | CopfordBlue |
| Our Promotion Team on 16:54 - Sep 1 by lurcher |
Staying in the premier league was always impossible.
The reality is that Davis and Hutchinson aside none of the side who got us promoted were good enough. |
And evidently nor were those who replaced them. | |
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| Our Promotion Team on 17:07 - Sep 1 with 545 views | baxterbasics |
Players bought in - both last season and this window - need to start coming good, and fast. Two or three of them hitting form would be a good start and could be enough. |  |
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| Our Promotion Team on 17:09 - Sep 1 with 518 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
A lot of them were awarded with new contracts and got a taste of some PL football |  |
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| Our Promotion Team on 17:10 - Sep 1 with 493 views | emergencylime |
I would rather look back fondly on those 2 years and the squad that defied the odds.
I'm sure those players would too, rather than sitting on the bench every week and losing their love for the club.
As others have said, keeping the same squad intact for sentimentality does not work as a football model.
Acknowledge it was a pivotal moment in ITFC history, give those players the freedom to seek new challenges and - even if they achieve greater things - they will always look back at the 22/23 and 23/24 seasons with a sense of massive pride. |  |
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| Our Promotion Team on 17:10 - Sep 1 with 490 views | ITFCSG |
| Our Promotion Team on 16:59 - Sep 1 by Bellevue_Blue |
Look at Sunderland, whole team replaced before they even got the chance to play PL footy.
Ours were not treated at all badly.
As others have said, evolution a must. |
Sunderland signed PL level players from Europe, watch MOTD you'll see the stark difference between their new players and ours.
For is, the problem is the replacements don't seem to be streets better, in fact they are no better or even worse! | | | |
| Our Promotion Team on 17:14 - Sep 1 with 444 views | lurcher |
| Our Promotion Team on 17:06 - Sep 1 by CopfordBlue |
And evidently nor were those who replaced them. |
4 games into the season, impossible to say if anything is evident. Some of our recent acquisitions haven't even played yet. Those that have, have only had a very short period of time on the pitch.
If the players we have brought in play up to their potential we will be a far better side. | | | |
| Our Promotion Team on 17:15 - Sep 1 with 413 views | ITFCSG |
| Our Promotion Team on 17:14 - Sep 1 by lurcher |
4 games into the season, impossible to say if anything is evident. Some of our recent acquisitions haven't even played yet. Those that have, have only had a very short period of time on the pitch.
If the players we have brought in play up to their potential we will be a far better side. |
J Clarke and Philogene are not new. Not exactly better than who they replaced aren't they?
Is Greaves better than Burgess? Doubtful. | | | |
| Our Promotion Team on 17:17 - Sep 1 with 386 views | franz_tyson |
| Our Promotion Team on 17:04 - Sep 1 by lazyblue |
Sad to see them go but in reality we need to progress to another level. We were lucky to go up as Leeds fell apart and the same players just not good enough to keep us up and that was with Hutchinson and Delap! |
So these players are getting tbe blame. What about tbe other players who we brought in last season at great expense who couldn't keep us up?
Does feel we're not only throwing the Double promotion lads under the bus, but we're likely to take the whole spirit out of the dressing room and tbe club. We had something special there.... and now a season and a bit later that's being denounced as being "lucky".
You can't just build things on just paper and reputation and throwing money around..... we're getting rid too quickly of that 'good feel' factor that made this club feel special. | | | |
| Our Promotion Team on 17:18 - Sep 1 with 365 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Our Promotion Team on 17:15 - Sep 1 by ITFCSG |
J Clarke and Philogene are not new. Not exactly better than who they replaced aren't they?
Is Greaves better than Burgess? Doubtful. |
Clarke and Philogene did not get a good crack of the whip last year as there were players ahead of them.
And for the umpteenth time, we didn't let Burgess leave, HE decided to. | |
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