Farage is a traitor 18:42 - Sep 3 with 2235 views | Mullet | This thread on him being completely ripped apart in America is a fascinating listen/read. What’s equally important is Keir growing some balls and nailing him here We used to hang, draw and quarter the likes of Nige. |  |
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Farage is a traitor on 18:48 - Sep 3 with 1653 views | Steve_M | Why does he hate this country so much? |  |
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Farage is a traitor on 18:49 - Sep 3 with 1650 views | lowhouseblue | i have no time for farage. both starmer and raskin are entirely right. but what most people will take away from the last day is that 5 armed police officers have arrested a comedy writer. if you refuse to focus on what really disturbs the public you leave room for idiots like farage |  |
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Farage is a traitor on 19:04 - Sep 3 with 1569 views | Mullet |
Farage is a traitor on 18:48 - Sep 3 by Steve_M | Why does he hate this country so much? |
Russian agent? Arrogant landed gentry? Grifter? Dunno |  |
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Farage is a traitor on 19:06 - Sep 3 with 1551 views | Mullet |
Farage is a traitor on 18:49 - Sep 3 by lowhouseblue | i have no time for farage. both starmer and raskin are entirely right. but what most people will take away from the last day is that 5 armed police officers have arrested a comedy writer. if you refuse to focus on what really disturbs the public you leave room for idiots like farage |
Linehan hasn’t been a comedy writer for a decade and a half. He produced a great body of work but his personal demons and mental health have led him here. It’s amazing it’s not been sooner. Pretending that’s what people care about because Rupert Lowe and other pricks are making a fuss, whilst this is the big story is another disingenuous attempt to move the narrative. |  |
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Farage is a traitor on 19:07 - Sep 3 with 1524 views | Swansea_Blue |
Farage is a traitor on 19:04 - Sep 3 by Mullet | Russian agent? Arrogant landed gentry? Grifter? Dunno |
From my limited experience with some of his team, he/they came across as people who feel they’d been treated unjustly. Earlier in his career, Farage was ridiculed and excluded by many established and traditional politicians. I’m convinced he just wants revenge and to ‘stick it up ‘em’. That’s my personal theory, but I could be wrong. It could just be the lust for power and money. |  |
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Farage is a traitor on 19:09 - Sep 3 with 1504 views | BlueBadger |
Farage is a traitor on 18:49 - Sep 3 by lowhouseblue | i have no time for farage. both starmer and raskin are entirely right. but what most people will take away from the last day is that 5 armed police officers have arrested a comedy writer. if you refuse to focus on what really disturbs the public you leave room for idiots like farage |
You appear to have mis typed -former comedy writer who was arrested on suspicion of inclement to violence' here. 'Linehan, who has been outspoken in his assertions that trans women are men, said on X in April that trans women were violent criminals if they used women-only facilities. He advocated people “punch” them if calling police and other measures failed to stop them.' https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/tv-writer-graham-linehans-arrest- [Post edited 3 Sep 19:11]
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Farage is a traitor on 19:11 - Sep 3 with 1459 views | Guthrum |
Farage is a traitor on 18:48 - Sep 3 by Steve_M | Why does he hate this country so much? |
He'll use any tool or method to get what he wants - personal status, plus the the ability for he and his mates/backers to rip people off and dismantle businesses for a quick profit without recourse, paying no tax on their ill-gotten gains. He doesn't hate the country, just the fact that he's not allowed to plunder it. Same as he's using those caught in economically troubled regions, feeling unease at the changes in society over their lifetimes and resentment towards central authority which seems to ignore them. |  |
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Farage is a traitor on 19:15 - Sep 3 with 1395 views | Ewan_Oozami |
Farage is a traitor on 19:09 - Sep 3 by BlueBadger | You appear to have mis typed -former comedy writer who was arrested on suspicion of inclement to violence' here. 'Linehan, who has been outspoken in his assertions that trans women are men, said on X in April that trans women were violent criminals if they used women-only facilities. He advocated people “punch” them if calling police and other measures failed to stop them.' https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/tv-writer-graham-linehans-arrest- [Post edited 3 Sep 19:11]
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Farage is a traitor on 19:15 - Sep 3 with 1391 views | lowhouseblue |
Farage is a traitor on 19:06 - Sep 3 by Mullet | Linehan hasn’t been a comedy writer for a decade and a half. He produced a great body of work but his personal demons and mental health have led him here. It’s amazing it’s not been sooner. Pretending that’s what people care about because Rupert Lowe and other pricks are making a fuss, whilst this is the big story is another disingenuous attempt to move the narrative. |
it is a big story - for a large portion of the public it reinforces the sense that the police and the state are increasingly out of touch. you need to listen to people outside your bubble. attacking linehan rather than supporting free speech really isn't a good place to end up. |  |
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Farage is a traitor on 19:16 - Sep 3 with 1378 views | Dubtractor |
Farage is a traitor on 18:49 - Sep 3 by lowhouseblue | i have no time for farage. both starmer and raskin are entirely right. but what most people will take away from the last day is that 5 armed police officers have arrested a comedy writer. if you refuse to focus on what really disturbs the public you leave room for idiots like farage |
Nonsense. Outside of a small echo chamber, no one will have noticed or care about Graham Linehan. Regardless of the right or wrong of the arrest. |  |
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Farage is a traitor on 19:17 - Sep 3 with 1373 views | Swansea_Blue | Having just seen that second clip, at last Starmer is showing some signs of leadership. Too little and too late for him and his party I suspect, but he has to call out Farage. It’s mind boggling that Farage is encouraging the US to use trade levers (sanctions) against the UK in order to lobby for consequence-free defamatory speech used by the far right (or anyone, but they’re only interested in being able to say what they want on the far right). Absolutely crackers. I think traitor is a fair description. |  |
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Farage is a traitor on 19:19 - Sep 3 with 1332 views | Trequartista |
Farage is a traitor on 19:09 - Sep 3 by BlueBadger | You appear to have mis typed -former comedy writer who was arrested on suspicion of inclement to violence' here. 'Linehan, who has been outspoken in his assertions that trans women are men, said on X in April that trans women were violent criminals if they used women-only facilities. He advocated people “punch” them if calling police and other measures failed to stop them.' https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/tv-writer-graham-linehans-arrest- [Post edited 3 Sep 19:11]
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Is this a bit like "punch a fascist" just after redefining what a fascist is to anyone you disagree with? |  |
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Farage is a traitor on 19:22 - Sep 3 with 1299 views | Trequartista |
Farage is a traitor on 19:16 - Sep 3 by Dubtractor | Nonsense. Outside of a small echo chamber, no one will have noticed or care about Graham Linehan. Regardless of the right or wrong of the arrest. |
I would disagree with that, although admittedly I didn't realise it was that big until i saw this article as i don't read print newspapers anymore myself. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gjg0pe26no |  |
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Farage is a traitor on 19:26 - Sep 3 with 1214 views | BlueBadger |
Farage is a traitor on 19:19 - Sep 3 by Trequartista | Is this a bit like "punch a fascist" just after redefining what a fascist is to anyone you disagree with? |
As general rule, a trans person going into a bog just wants a piss and shouldn't be getting a smack for their trouble. A fascist is generally out and about advocating hatred and violence towards people, particularly if unchecked. Hope that helps. [Post edited 3 Sep 19:27]
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Farage is a traitor on 19:27 - Sep 3 with 1189 views | bartyg |
Farage is a traitor on 18:49 - Sep 3 by lowhouseblue | i have no time for farage. both starmer and raskin are entirely right. but what most people will take away from the last day is that 5 armed police officers have arrested a comedy writer. if you refuse to focus on what really disturbs the public you leave room for idiots like farage |
Literally not seen anyone talking about whatever you're on about. Maybe you live in a bubble? |  | |  |
Farage is a traitor on 19:27 - Sep 3 with 1180 views | lowhouseblue |
Farage is a traitor on 19:09 - Sep 3 by BlueBadger | You appear to have mis typed -former comedy writer who was arrested on suspicion of inclement to violence' here. 'Linehan, who has been outspoken in his assertions that trans women are men, said on X in April that trans women were violent criminals if they used women-only facilities. He advocated people “punch” them if calling police and other measures failed to stop them.' https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/tv-writer-graham-linehans-arrest- [Post edited 3 Sep 19:11]
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it doesn't get within a mile of incitement to violence. any jury would laugh it out of court. you'd be better to quote his tweets rather than a twisted version. armed police arresting someone for tweeting has a chilling effect on free speech - it makes the police look biased and to be taking a side on a political issue. it also makes the police look ridiculous when they can't actually investigate shop lifting or burglaries but have the time to harass comedy writers with 5 armed officers. to most people it makes our key public institutions look deranged. but you've chosen your side and will now defend it right or wrong. i don't have the will to go through the usual dance with your gang on this, but i promise you that outside of your little bubble these things do matter to most people (people you have contempt for i'm sure). |  |
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Farage is a traitor on 19:28 - Sep 3 with 1156 views | Dubtractor |
My point is that almost no one in the great British public will care - it will be tomorrow's digital chip paper. |  |
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Farage is a traitor on 19:28 - Sep 3 with 1142 views | Mullet |
Farage is a traitor on 19:15 - Sep 3 by lowhouseblue | it is a big story - for a large portion of the public it reinforces the sense that the police and the state are increasingly out of touch. you need to listen to people outside your bubble. attacking linehan rather than supporting free speech really isn't a good place to end up. |
I tried listening to you but you’re full of sh1te. Being patronising and shilling for the far right isn’t worth listening to. The fact I’m fully versed on the linehan stuff by Lowe et al blows your argument out of the water immediately. Honestly, this notion that only you listen to the facts and other people is wearing really thin. You just don’t offer anything but tacit support for the scum in our nation. |  |
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Farage is a traitor on 19:33 - Sep 3 with 1047 views | Mullet |
Farage is a traitor on 19:17 - Sep 3 by Swansea_Blue | Having just seen that second clip, at last Starmer is showing some signs of leadership. Too little and too late for him and his party I suspect, but he has to call out Farage. It’s mind boggling that Farage is encouraging the US to use trade levers (sanctions) against the UK in order to lobby for consequence-free defamatory speech used by the far right (or anyone, but they’re only interested in being able to say what they want on the far right). Absolutely crackers. I think traitor is a fair description. |
I don’t know about that. The News Agents made a good point earlier last week about how it has been a rocky year (possibly more than anyone anticipated) and they’ve struggled to get their message across. However, they seem to be willing to accept counsel from the Blair generation now in the highest seats of the land and using more people outside their cliques to get better at communicating. They’re learning the bitter truth about how it’s easy to be in opposition and criticise. Hence why serial election loser Farage is such a cheap thrill for his audience. He just wants to tear everything down the NHS, taxes, workers rights etc because it benefits him and his upper class/ foreign billionaire mates. |  |
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Farage is a traitor on 19:33 - Sep 3 with 1046 views | Kievthegreat |
Farage is a traitor on 19:27 - Sep 3 by lowhouseblue | it doesn't get within a mile of incitement to violence. any jury would laugh it out of court. you'd be better to quote his tweets rather than a twisted version. armed police arresting someone for tweeting has a chilling effect on free speech - it makes the police look biased and to be taking a side on a political issue. it also makes the police look ridiculous when they can't actually investigate shop lifting or burglaries but have the time to harass comedy writers with 5 armed officers. to most people it makes our key public institutions look deranged. but you've chosen your side and will now defend it right or wrong. i don't have the will to go through the usual dance with your gang on this, but i promise you that outside of your little bubble these things do matter to most people (people you have contempt for i'm sure). |
Weird, because Nigel wanted the police to act when a comedian makes a joke about him: https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2019/jun/12/farage-furious-over-jo-brands-th EDIT: Wanted to attach this do a different post, but point still stands. [Post edited 3 Sep 19:34]
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Farage is a traitor on 19:36 - Sep 3 with 992 views | Dubtractor |
FWIW, I do think that one was worthy of a police visit at the very least, it's a pretty unpleasant thing to suggest. |  |
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Farage is a traitor on 19:38 - Sep 3 with 981 views | Ewan_Oozami |
Farage is a traitor on 19:28 - Sep 3 by Mullet | I tried listening to you but you’re full of sh1te. Being patronising and shilling for the far right isn’t worth listening to. The fact I’m fully versed on the linehan stuff by Lowe et al blows your argument out of the water immediately. Honestly, this notion that only you listen to the facts and other people is wearing really thin. You just don’t offer anything but tacit support for the scum in our nation. |
I too am fully versed on what Linehan has been up to re: his tweets, podcast appearances, his grovelling to J K Rowling (which was especially cringeworthy), etc, and I think he must have been on some sort of vague watch list, which is surprising considering he's spoken at LGB Alliance events (a group which Lowers no doubt supports, as does the current Govt, which I personally find far more unforgivable than not paying enough Stamp Duty).. |  |
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Farage is a traitor on 19:41 - Sep 3 with 963 views | Trequartista |
Farage is a traitor on 19:27 - Sep 3 by lowhouseblue | it doesn't get within a mile of incitement to violence. any jury would laugh it out of court. you'd be better to quote his tweets rather than a twisted version. armed police arresting someone for tweeting has a chilling effect on free speech - it makes the police look biased and to be taking a side on a political issue. it also makes the police look ridiculous when they can't actually investigate shop lifting or burglaries but have the time to harass comedy writers with 5 armed officers. to most people it makes our key public institutions look deranged. but you've chosen your side and will now defend it right or wrong. i don't have the will to go through the usual dance with your gang on this, but i promise you that outside of your little bubble these things do matter to most people (people you have contempt for i'm sure). |
I'd say we're still a split nation even years after Brexit. Half the country will not care a jot, half the country will look at this as terrible for freedom of speech. You only have to look at the graphic i posted to see which papers know their readership will be interested, and which will ignore it altogether. On another note, what on earth were they thinking arresting someone so publicly who has literally moved to America over freedom of speech concerns in the UK? A spectacular own goal from the Met there. [Post edited 3 Sep 19:52]
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Farage is a traitor on 19:47 - Sep 3 with 907 views | Kievthegreat |
Farage is a traitor on 19:41 - Sep 3 by Trequartista | I'd say we're still a split nation even years after Brexit. Half the country will not care a jot, half the country will look at this as terrible for freedom of speech. You only have to look at the graphic i posted to see which papers know their readership will be interested, and which will ignore it altogether. On another note, what on earth were they thinking arresting someone so publicly who has literally moved to America over freedom of speech concerns in the UK? A spectacular own goal from the Met there. [Post edited 3 Sep 19:52]
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Farage is a traitor on 19:48 - Sep 3 with 892 views | monkeymagic | At the risk of sounding like Mark Ashton, deploying 5 armed officers to arrest this guy is giving Farage et al the oxygen they crave.I think front line police have a difficult enough job as it is, without their senior leadership making p*ss poor operational decisions like this. No wonder Starmer and Streeting told them to better prioritise. |  | |  |
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