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Why did the media and police lie so readily 07:20 - Sep 17 with 10202 viewsonceablue

Lie about the number of people on the Unite the Kingdom rally

Police say 110,000 on the Unite the Kingdom rally

We took 5,000 to Preston the other week.

According to the Police that means there were only 22x more people on the rally.

There was quite clearly between 500,000 to a 1,000,000 people on that protest

The Police lied because they, the media and the Government want to play down the feeling of the Country at the moment

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Why did the media and police lie so readily on 14:50 - Sep 17 with 1484 viewsTrequartista

Why did the media and police lie so readily on 14:28 - Sep 17 by redrickstuhaart

They said 110. Express 80. Other sources less.


When will people start thinking critically and fact checking for themselves?


I said of the ones I have seen. A lot of have said 200k, 500k and rather fantastically 3m. Apologies for not reading every news source in the universe before posting.

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Why did the media and police lie so readily on 15:22 - Sep 17 with 1417 viewslazyblue

No way was it anywhere near 500,000 it’s ridiculous to even suggest it, London would come to a standstill and it didn’t.
If you have ever left a concert a Wembley with 80,000 to 90,000 people then would know it’s closer to that figure from the photos on the day.
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Why did the media and police lie so readily on 17:09 - Sep 17 with 1293 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Why did the media and police lie so readily on 12:34 - Sep 17 by waveneyblue

"You lot"

Can you please explain what you mean by this.

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Why did the media and police lie so readily on 17:28 - Sep 17 with 1255 viewswaveneyblue

Why did the media and police lie so readily on 17:09 - Sep 17 by The_Flashing_Smile

The 'just asking questions' crowd.


Interesting....
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Why did the media and police lie so readily on 17:54 - Sep 17 with 1217 viewsBlueBadger

Why did the media and police lie so readily on 14:28 - Sep 17 by redrickstuhaart

They said 110. Express 80. Other sources less.


When will people start thinking critically and fact checking for themselves?


Amazing to see the 'do your research crowd uncritically accepting social media claims as fact.

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Why did the media and police lie so readily on 18:16 - Sep 17 with 1146 viewsreusersfreekicks

Why did the media and police lie so readily on 09:57 - Sep 17 by The_Flashing_Smile

I can see why the governement might lie about the figures.
I can see why the organisers of the event might lie about the figures.
I can't for the life of me see what the motivation would be for the police to lie about the figures.


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Why did the media and police lie so readily on 18:30 - Sep 17 with 1112 viewsCoastalblue

Didn't Waxy Lemon claim it was millions?

Show me one occasion when he's lied.

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Why did the media and police lie so readily on 19:30 - Sep 17 with 1040 viewsBlueForYou

This looks like a pretty large amount of people to me.



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Why did the media and police lie so readily on 22:46 - Sep 17 with 773 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Why did the media and police lie so readily on 14:17 - Sep 17 by Trequartista

I don’t have any evidence as to why, I’m just saying they’ve chosen the lowest (110k) of the ranges I’ve seen.


Your comment "The police and left media will go with the lowest estimate" suggests that you thought they had good cause to downplay it. I can't think of any reason they would have and of at least two why the opposite is true.

Indeed, the OP actually asks the question why did the media and police lie so readily when, in fact, there is no evidence that their figures are anything but the most reliable estimates.

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Why did the media and police lie so readily on 22:54 - Sep 17 with 759 viewsTrequartista

Why did the media and police lie so readily on 22:46 - Sep 17 by Nthsuffolkblue

Your comment "The police and left media will go with the lowest estimate" suggests that you thought they had good cause to downplay it. I can't think of any reason they would have and of at least two why the opposite is true.

Indeed, the OP actually asks the question why did the media and police lie so readily when, in fact, there is no evidence that their figures are anything but the most reliable estimates.


ok they had the lowest figures that i saw with no inference about anything
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Why did the media and police lie so readily on 22:54 - Sep 17 with 753 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Why did the media and police lie so readily on 19:30 - Sep 17 by BlueForYou

This looks like a pretty large amount of people to me.





Yes, from that aerial footage there certainly was a large crowd. Could easily be 100,000 plus. Certainly more than would fit in many football stadia. I wonder if you have similar footage of a known crowd size like that leaving Wembley all at once after a capacity event.

EDIT: This has been trickier to find than I would imagine. So far there is this of a 22,500 crowd: https://www.alamy.com/22500-football-fans-depart-wembley-stadium-after-the-engla

This is around 120,000 for Elton John at Glastonbury. https://www.reddit.com/r/Amazing/comments/14iwhrr/the_crowd_for_elton_john_glast

And this crowd appears to be about 125,000.

All of this would fit with the estimated attendance at Unite the Kingdom of around 100,000-120,000 from the similar footage. This is still a concerningly large turnout for an event with the speakers and organisers that it had.
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Why did the media and police lie so readily on 23:42 - Sep 17 with 655 viewsreusersfreekicks

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/17/tommy-robinson-rally-white

The beginning to this piece is so depressing. What lies and misinformation can achieve.
Horrible
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Why did the media and police lie so readily on 07:52 - Sep 18 with 330 viewsJackNorthStand

Why did the media and police lie so readily on 09:03 - Sep 17 by waveneyblue

He's hardly "incensed" is he.

Why cant you lot just accept that there might be other opinions to yours, without the sarky, condescending and over the top remarks.

The problem with these subjects, is that there's often a huge middle ground of opinion which is instantly dismissed and receives the pile on from the usual suspects.

Ive said it before, I'm sure the attitudes of a few stop a lot of people from posting.

Its the same posters and the same outcome, every bloody time.


Same posters, same outcome attacking people for potentially having different opinions.
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Why did the media and police lie so readily on 08:24 - Sep 18 with 259 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Why did the media and police lie so readily on 07:52 - Sep 18 by JackNorthStand

Same posters, same outcome attacking people for potentially having different opinions.


Spreading lies isn't "having different opinions." It's spreading lies.

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Why did the media and police lie so readily on 09:23 - Sep 18 with 181 viewsJackNorthStand

Why did the media and police lie so readily on 08:24 - Sep 18 by The_Flashing_Smile

Spreading lies isn't "having different opinions." It's spreading lies.


The poster has write that it looks like there were X number of people. There isn’t a definitive figure there is no way of knowing the exact figure. Maybe he’s wrong, maybe he’s not but the usual users on this forum have jumped on the poster in their usual way.
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Why did the media and police lie so readily on 09:27 - Sep 18 with 165 viewsnoggin

Why did the media and police lie so readily on 09:23 - Sep 18 by JackNorthStand

The poster has write that it looks like there were X number of people. There isn’t a definitive figure there is no way of knowing the exact figure. Maybe he’s wrong, maybe he’s not but the usual users on this forum have jumped on the poster in their usual way.


That's wrong. They have written "there is clearly" x number of people.

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Why did the media and police lie so readily on 09:41 - Sep 18 with 137 viewsBlueBoots

Why did the media and police lie so readily on 09:23 - Sep 18 by JackNorthStand

The poster has write that it looks like there were X number of people. There isn’t a definitive figure there is no way of knowing the exact figure. Maybe he’s wrong, maybe he’s not but the usual users on this forum have jumped on the poster in their usual way.


Although to be fair, although there would be no way of knowing an exact figure. the OP doesn't help themselves with "Police say 110,000 on the Unite the Kingdom rally" (official Met Police figures estimated the crowd at between 110,000-150,000), and then following up with "There was quite clearly between 500,000 to a 1,000,000 people on that protest" without providing any sort of source for those numbers.

Saying that the Met Police know the crowd was considerably larger than their official estimate and are lying about it is borderline libellous though, so you'd hope the Met Police lawyers aren't regular readers of this site.

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