| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame 15:20 - Sep 23 with 4314 views | BrayBlue |
It is absolutely ridiculous that the EFL have taken this long to decide what should happen following Saturday’s abandonment. What is the hold-up? What are they waiting on? Just get it done.
Cheers,
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| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 15:55 - Sep 23 with 3474 views | hype313 |
They've probably got Blackburn in one ear and Ashton in the other, the trouble is their laws are quite ambiguous, so they've created a rod for their own back. |  |
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| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 15:59 - Sep 23 with 3437 views | Guthrum |
What's the great rush? It doesn't affect anything in practical terms at this stage.
I expect there's a lot of admin to work through in setting up a replay (both clubs, the police, transport, met office). |  |
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| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 15:59 - Sep 23 with 3425 views | Linners |
| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 15:55 - Sep 23 by hype313 |
They've probably got Blackburn in one ear and Ashton in the other, the trouble is their laws are quite ambiguous, so they've created a rod for their own back. |
They really haven't - it's not even a difficult decision. It's unlucky on Blackburn, but that's all it is, just like a bad refereeing call or a fluke goal. Any decision other than replaying would be absolutely ludicrous. |  | | |
| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 16:19 - Sep 23 with 3329 views | bsw72 |
No rush, make sure the right decision is made. I would imagine the EFL board has to schedule a meeting which this will be on, and the board are full of busy people.
Things take time. |  | | |
| They had the meeting yesterday. (n/t) on 16:57 - Sep 23 with 3133 views | Bloots |
| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 16:19 - Sep 23 by bsw72 |
No rush, make sure the right decision is made. I would imagine the EFL board has to schedule a meeting which this will be on, and the board are full of busy people.
Things take time. |
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| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 17:30 - Sep 23 with 2945 views | baxterbasics |
On that note, have the PL taken action against Cunha yet after the fracas at Wolves away? |  |
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| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 17:37 - Sep 23 with 2898 views | Everydayblue |
I'm wondering if this situation is unprecedented, given the Greaves red card ?
Maybe they need to add a new ruling for such situations, to justify whatever decision they make? | | | |
| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 17:47 - Sep 23 with 2853 views | wischip |
Maybe they're still waiting for Blackburn's pitch to dry out. |  | | |
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| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 18:12 - Sep 23 with 2711 views | Bellevue_Blue |
Totally agree, I suspect it's just a case of trying to hear both sides of the story.
As I see it it's pretty cut and dry. Blackburns pitch prevented a 90 minute football game being played so therefore that match should be played again at a time where they can fulfil their obligation to host an entire football match.
They have already set the precedent with the 2023 example where Cardiff were 1-0 vs Rotherham in a game that got called off in the 83rd minute.
The matter was referred to the EFL board, who reviewed submissions from both clubs and stated.
"In considering matters such as these, the league seeks to adopt consistency with previous occurrences where fixtures have been abandoned for weather-related reasons and could not be restarted" | | | |
| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 19:06 - Sep 23 with 2562 views | Deano69 |
| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 15:59 - Sep 23 by Linners |
They really haven't - it's not even a difficult decision. It's unlucky on Blackburn, but that's all it is, just like a bad refereeing call or a fluke goal. Any decision other than replaying would be absolutely ludicrous. |
It really is either a replay in full, which the law implies and offers the simplest resolution or the game awarded as a win to Blackburn, which is not what the law has as an option and clarification needed to understand the conditions of awarding the result in this retrospectively and for the future.
Anything else is purely making the rules up as you go along. In front of a crowd or not? Replay 10 minutes, what do you do about time added on? 11-v-10 for a whole game or 10mins + or 11 -v- 11 until the same time Greaves was sent off ? It’s just not an option otherwise a whole raft of conditions will have to be ratified, applied in arrears and applied going forward.
Should be simple. I too would be hacked if in Blackburns position, but the rules are the rules. |  |
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| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 20:04 - Sep 23 with 2421 views | Pinewoodblue |
We could be in for a long wait. Two years ago following a medical emergency in the stands Orient fans took the law unto their hands and there was a sit down on the pitch.
The game was abandoned but it took almost two weeks for EFL to decide the game should be replayed. |  |
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| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 20:09 - Sep 23 with 2389 views | TMWWNGAS |
Surely it's pretty obvious for the integrity of the league it's replayed...
Look at it from Blackburns side... say the result stands and they miss out on promotion/ get relegated by 1 goal... if those extra 10 mins (plus added on time) were played they might have scored. As it wasn't completed as per the FA it should be replayed in full.. | | | |
| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 09:55 - Sep 24 with 1597 views | darkhorse28 |
1-0, at home, 10 mins left, against 10 men!
Not exactly an obvious call to replay 90 minutes 11 v 11 is it.
I’m 45 years a fan, and the best I can come up with is replay last 10 mins.., anything else is pure hypocrisy, no way would we accept a full replay in the same circumstances, nobody would.
98% probability we lose that game - hard to argue emotion over facts, except for a few nodding dogs.
Losing as we would, would be better for us long term.., no way are Ashton and McKenna close to the elite level the investment warrants. | | | |
| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 10:01 - Sep 24 with 1567 views | positivity |
is there any efl precedent for anything other than a full replay? | |
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| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 10:19 - Sep 24 with 1497 views | BrayBlue |
| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 09:55 - Sep 24 by darkhorse28 |
1-0, at home, 10 mins left, against 10 men!
Not exactly an obvious call to replay 90 minutes 11 v 11 is it.
I’m 45 years a fan, and the best I can come up with is replay last 10 mins.., anything else is pure hypocrisy, no way would we accept a full replay in the same circumstances, nobody would.
98% probability we lose that game - hard to argue emotion over facts, except for a few nodding dogs.
Losing as we would, would be better for us long term.., no way are Ashton and McKenna close to the elite level the investment warrants. |
Would you expect home supporters, let alone away fans, to turn up (and possibly have to pay again) for 10 minutes of football?
Cheers,
JK | | | |
| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 10:20 - Sep 24 with 1487 views | Jimbo75 |
| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 09:55 - Sep 24 by darkhorse28 |
1-0, at home, 10 mins left, against 10 men!
Not exactly an obvious call to replay 90 minutes 11 v 11 is it.
I’m 45 years a fan, and the best I can come up with is replay last 10 mins.., anything else is pure hypocrisy, no way would we accept a full replay in the same circumstances, nobody would.
98% probability we lose that game - hard to argue emotion over facts, except for a few nodding dogs.
Losing as we would, would be better for us long term.., no way are Ashton and McKenna close to the elite level the investment warrants. |
you are stating to replay that game from the 79th min, so in essence you are stating the game needs to be replicated from its finished position. this is where it doesn't work IMO, there will be different players, different fitness levels, different tactics, the game wont be open like it is last 15 minutes generally, that point of the game cannot be replicated in anyway shape or form other than the score line. The game should be replayed with Blackburn 1-0 up. | | | |
| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 10:26 - Sep 24 with 1434 views | BrayBlue |
| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 10:20 - Sep 24 by Jimbo75 |
you are stating to replay that game from the 79th min, so in essence you are stating the game needs to be replicated from its finished position. this is where it doesn't work IMO, there will be different players, different fitness levels, different tactics, the game wont be open like it is last 15 minutes generally, that point of the game cannot be replicated in anyway shape or form other than the score line. The game should be replayed with Blackburn 1-0 up. |
Absolutely no chance it’ll be replayed with Blackburn 1-0 up - that’s the most ludicrous suggestion I have seen so far!
Cheers
JK | | | |
| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 10:54 - Sep 24 with 1357 views | positivity |
| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 10:20 - Sep 24 by Jimbo75 |
you are stating to replay that game from the 79th min, so in essence you are stating the game needs to be replicated from its finished position. this is where it doesn't work IMO, there will be different players, different fitness levels, different tactics, the game wont be open like it is last 15 minutes generally, that point of the game cannot be replicated in anyway shape or form other than the score line. The game should be replayed with Blackburn 1-0 up. |
no, horsey is right (as always); in every other past case, the precedent is that you play from when the game is stopped.
it's easy to recreate the conditions of the players, any starters from saturday will have to run for 75 minutes in a bog immediately before the game starts. | |
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| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 10:58 - Sep 24 with 1332 views | norfsufblue |
| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 10:54 - Sep 24 by positivity |
no, horsey is right (as always); in every other past case, the precedent is that you play from when the game is stopped.
it's easy to recreate the conditions of the players, any starters from saturday will have to run for 75 minutes in a bog immediately before the game starts. |
But to replicate the conditions wouldnt you have to immediately abandon the game? |  | | |
| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 11:09 - Sep 24 with 1255 views | Ryorry |
| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 09:55 - Sep 24 by darkhorse28 |
1-0, at home, 10 mins left, against 10 men!
Not exactly an obvious call to replay 90 minutes 11 v 11 is it.
I’m 45 years a fan, and the best I can come up with is replay last 10 mins.., anything else is pure hypocrisy, no way would we accept a full replay in the same circumstances, nobody would.
98% probability we lose that game - hard to argue emotion over facts, except for a few nodding dogs.
Losing as we would, would be better for us long term.., no way are Ashton and McKenna close to the elite level the investment warrants. |
How did I know without even looking at the author, who’d written such a load of Delia’s Diarrhoea as is in your last two paragraphs?  [Post edited 24 Sep 11:15]
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| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 11:27 - Sep 24 with 1109 views | Ryorry |
| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 11:18 - Sep 24 by redrickstuhaart |
I get that too. I get through a paragraph and it becomes obvious that it's another painful bit of trolling from dark horse. Check the poster and was right. As I have been dozens of times now. So obvious and transparent. |
Am amazed he’s still allowed to be here. Most of his outpourings are disrespectful of ITFC, but some cross a line into misrepresentation too. | |
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| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 12:21 - Sep 24 with 865 views | chorltonskylineblue |
| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 18:12 - Sep 23 by Bellevue_Blue |
Totally agree, I suspect it's just a case of trying to hear both sides of the story.
As I see it it's pretty cut and dry. Blackburns pitch prevented a 90 minute football game being played so therefore that match should be played again at a time where they can fulfil their obligation to host an entire football match.
They have already set the precedent with the 2023 example where Cardiff were 1-0 vs Rotherham in a game that got called off in the 83rd minute.
The matter was referred to the EFL board, who reviewed submissions from both clubs and stated.
"In considering matters such as these, the league seeks to adopt consistency with previous occurrences where fixtures have been abandoned for weather-related reasons and could not be restarted" |
Rotherham v Cardiff was called off in 48th minute. Coincidentally, Philogene got the goal for Cardiff | | | |
| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 12:47 - Sep 24 with 698 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| EFL = Evidently Flipping Lame on 09:55 - Sep 24 by darkhorse28 |
1-0, at home, 10 mins left, against 10 men!
Not exactly an obvious call to replay 90 minutes 11 v 11 is it.
I’m 45 years a fan, and the best I can come up with is replay last 10 mins.., anything else is pure hypocrisy, no way would we accept a full replay in the same circumstances, nobody would.
98% probability we lose that game - hard to argue emotion over facts, except for a few nodding dogs.
Losing as we would, would be better for us long term.., no way are Ashton and McKenna close to the elite level the investment warrants. |
Give me any example when an EFL league game, rearranged for a latter date, has been played with the time limited to that left from the abandoned game?
I don't expect an answer, since you always ignore questions that undermine your proposition.
Very rarely is the answer anything other than to rearrange the match as a completely new, 90min game. Where it has been otherwise, there were very specific circumstances, and even in those the result was awarded, not replayed as a limited time game. Where awarded, it was often the situation that one team was considered to have in some way been responsible for the abandonment, or maybe the last game of the season where the outcome was irrelevant.
https://www.footballsite.co.uk/DYK/DYK01-AbandonedMatches.htm | | | |
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