| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose 22:01 - Sep 23 with 2666 views | MaySixth |
From my Blackburn ST holder colleague of many years
"You might have heard but the reason we get a lot of waterlogging is because the pitch drains into the river behind the aptly named Riverside Stand. but once the river reaches its peak level there's nowhere for the water to drain. been an issue for years that doesn't reflect very well on our ownership/management (quelle surprise) but not sure it's entirely the club's issue to solve
"I think that's the really frustrating thing seeing the games at Burnley and United play to a finish when the weather was just as bad there. I also think that's why the league won't take any pity on us here because they'll assume if other local teams - including those lower down the pyramid - could finish their games we should have been able to. I mean, even allowing for Blackburn being probably statistically one of the wettest places in the country and in a valley there's no excuse for the drainage when some non-league teams even managed to play to a finish" |  |
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| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 23:40 - Sep 23 with 2342 views | MVBlue |
Blackburn seem to be having a Marcus Evans or worse era. Badly run club, diverting fans attention away from the fact they can't setup proper drainage and used to be a Premiership club but now struggle with this. Plus the various transfer sagas such as Sammy Smodich dragged out for 8 weeks, they are quite an odd club. Theres the haves and have nots in modern football, those with mega bucks in the Prem and those bumbling along like Blackburn. |  |
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| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 06:15 - Sep 24 with 1848 views | RIPbobby |
I think they are run in ways that we have been in the past. In fairness to them this issue is probably going to get close to fruition 2 to 3 times a season and this do you want to divert all finances to fix it. Probably not. Saying that I think they will be seen in a much worse light if the same thing happens in their next home game. |  | | |
| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 06:38 - Sep 24 with 1764 views | lurcher |
| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 23:40 - Sep 23 by MVBlue |
Blackburn seem to be having a Marcus Evans or worse era. Badly run club, diverting fans attention away from the fact they can't setup proper drainage and used to be a Premiership club but now struggle with this. Plus the various transfer sagas such as Sammy Smodich dragged out for 8 weeks, they are quite an odd club. Theres the haves and have nots in modern football, those with mega bucks in the Prem and those bumbling along like Blackburn. |
It would cost millions to solve, probably more than the 3.5 our pitch cost. They are trying to get rid of water that is below the height of the water table. |  | | |
| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 06:45 - Sep 24 with 1736 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 06:38 - Sep 24 by lurcher |
It would cost millions to solve, probably more than the 3.5 our pitch cost. They are trying to get rid of water that is below the height of the water table. |
Fair enough, but if it's too expensive to fix then don't get sh1tty with the authorities and the opposition when it happens. It's a known problem, suck it up and replay the match. |  | | |
| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 06:56 - Sep 24 with 1676 views | lurcher |
| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 06:45 - Sep 24 by Axeldalai_lama |
Fair enough, but if it's too expensive to fix then don't get sh1tty with the authorities and the opposition when it happens. It's a known problem, suck it up and replay the match. |
Most grounds have issues unique to their location, in this case it should be known that Ewood park doesn't drain well. The referee had a terrible game and ultimately he was at fault. After marking the decision to put the game on, he should have called everything off within minutes of the 2nd half starting. You could see the water splashing up before Greaves was sent off. | | | |
| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 07:00 - Sep 24 with 1662 views | Churchman |
| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 06:38 - Sep 24 by lurcher |
It would cost millions to solve, probably more than the 3.5 our pitch cost. They are trying to get rid of water that is below the height of the water table. |
Couple of puddle pumps, £200, problem solved. On a more serious note, it’s a problem they’ve clearly ignored for decades - literally. Presumably because the odd game postponed and another club incurs the costs: who cares.
It’s 2025, not 1985. I appreciate when Jack Walker was spilling his fortune there, it didn’t matter so much given how poor most facility’s were in grounds 30 years ago. But by now they should have done something about it.
I agree with the Title. They should pay our costs too, club and supporters.
Edit: if Blackburn were told that next season any abandonment or postponement due to flooding, as it is a known problem, would mean forfeiting the points automatically you can bet they’d be waving shovels around before you could say Chris Sutton’s a bonehead. [Post edited 24 Sep 9:05]
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| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 07:36 - Sep 24 with 1489 views | lurcher |
| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 07:00 - Sep 24 by Churchman |
Couple of puddle pumps, £200, problem solved. On a more serious note, it’s a problem they’ve clearly ignored for decades - literally. Presumably because the odd game postponed and another club incurs the costs: who cares.
It’s 2025, not 1985. I appreciate when Jack Walker was spilling his fortune there, it didn’t matter so much given how poor most facility’s were in grounds 30 years ago. But by now they should have done something about it.
I agree with the Title. They should pay our costs too, club and supporters.
Edit: if Blackburn were told that next season any abandonment or postponement due to flooding, as it is a known problem, would mean forfeiting the points automatically you can bet they’d be waving shovels around before you could say Chris Sutton’s a bonehead. [Post edited 24 Sep 9:05]
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On the day it was fairly excessive rainfall, given the forecast and historical problems the referee was poor.
But I think you are right, they need to address the problem. I guess much like us in the Evans era. The stadium and pitch are receiving little investment. | | | |
| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 07:47 - Sep 24 with 1396 views | andytown |
| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 06:45 - Sep 24 by Axeldalai_lama |
Fair enough, but if it's too expensive to fix then don't get sh1tty with the authorities and the opposition when it happens. It's a known problem, suck it up and replay the match. |
Sucking it up would probably cost quite a lot as well. |  | | |
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| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 08:10 - Sep 24 with 1277 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 06:38 - Sep 24 by lurcher |
It would cost millions to solve, probably more than the 3.5 our pitch cost. They are trying to get rid of water that is below the height of the water table. |
I’d be surprised if that’s the case. The areas around the pitch were not flooded. The pitch is elevated well above the fringes, so if it was a water table issue you’d expect the gulleys around the pitch to fill up. There’s a chance the pitch drains are backing up. But if areas around the pitch aren’t flooding at the same time then there must be more to it than there being nowhere for the water to go. The ground is in a bit of a state generally, so I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s just a poorly designed or maintained pitch. |  |
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| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 08:32 - Sep 24 with 1148 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 06:38 - Sep 24 by lurcher |
It would cost millions to solve, probably more than the 3.5 our pitch cost. They are trying to get rid of water that is below the height of the water table. |
It was pretty obvious from the less than vigorous forking by the ground staff that they had already given up on it, couple of them were only pushing their forks in about an eighth of an inch, and as for those barbecue forks? What was the point?
It was very much the ground staff going: "We might as well put a show on for the visiting fans and for the Ref, lads" |  |
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| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 08:33 - Sep 24 with 1139 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 06:38 - Sep 24 by lurcher |
It would cost millions to solve, probably more than the 3.5 our pitch cost. They are trying to get rid of water that is below the height of the water table. |
Surely a workaround would be to install some external tanks for the water to drain into if the river has burst its banks? |  |
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| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 08:38 - Sep 24 with 1096 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 08:32 - Sep 24 by Cheltenham_Blue |
It was pretty obvious from the less than vigorous forking by the ground staff that they had already given up on it, couple of them were only pushing their forks in about an eighth of an inch, and as for those barbecue forks? What was the point?
It was very much the ground staff going: "We might as well put a show on for the visiting fans and for the Ref, lads" |
Yes, it was a performative forking. Amusing but utterly pointless. | |
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| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 08:50 - Sep 24 with 1018 views | lurcher |
| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 08:10 - Sep 24 by Swansea_Blue |
I’d be surprised if that’s the case. The areas around the pitch were not flooded. The pitch is elevated well above the fringes, so if it was a water table issue you’d expect the gulleys around the pitch to fill up. There’s a chance the pitch drains are backing up. But if areas around the pitch aren’t flooding at the same time then there must be more to it than there being nowhere for the water to go. The ground is in a bit of a state generally, so I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s just a poorly designed or maintained pitch. |
Apparently the water drains into a river next to the ground. When the river level meets a certain height the drain system backs up, preventing water getting away from the stadium. I guess you could view the pitch and apron a bit like a sponge on a plate, the pitch/sponge can hold water at a higher level then the apron/plate [Post edited 24 Sep 8:52]
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| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 08:54 - Sep 24 with 967 views | mellowblue |
| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 08:33 - Sep 24 by GlasgowBlue |
Surely a workaround would be to install some external tanks for the water to drain into if the river has burst its banks? |
I had a look on Google Earth which is pretty reliable for altitudes. The river is actually 10 metres higher than Ewood Park pitch which itself is in a natural bowl where excess water would drain to. so they really took a chance building it there. | | | |
| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 08:56 - Sep 24 with 934 views | EdwardStone |
| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 08:38 - Sep 24 by Swansea_Blue |
Yes, it was a performative forking. Amusing but utterly pointless. |
All the jokes about 4 thousand holes in Blackburn, Lancashire were forking amusing tbh |  | | |
| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 08:58 - Sep 24 with 915 views | wrightsrightglove |
| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 08:33 - Sep 24 by GlasgowBlue |
Surely a workaround would be to install some external tanks for the water to drain into if the river has burst its banks? |
Yeah, I mentioned this on another thread, they need a hefty attenuation tank to act as a back up when the river reaches a certain level. It’d cost a couple of million no doubt, but given the industry, it’s certainly not unachievable. They should absolutely be given notice by the EFL that future abandonments due to a known issue will result in fines | | | |
| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 09:02 - Sep 24 with 874 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 08:50 - Sep 24 by lurcher |
Apparently the water drains into a river next to the ground. When the river level meets a certain height the drain system backs up, preventing water getting away from the stadium. I guess you could view the pitch and apron a bit like a sponge on a plate, the pitch/sponge can hold water at a higher level then the apron/plate [Post edited 24 Sep 8:52]
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Ah ok, that makes some sense and is the only way I could see it flooding. There’s plenty of space in the car park, but they might struggle to get permission to route the water there lol
The ground’s looking very much from its time now. They could do with a new one. | |
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| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 09:11 - Sep 24 with 764 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 08:56 - Sep 24 by EdwardStone |
All the jokes about 4 thousand holes in Blackburn, Lancashire were forking amusing tbh |
Embarrassingly, it took me a while to get the reference as I’ve never listened to much of the Beatles  | |
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| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 09:40 - Sep 24 with 539 views | bsw72 |
| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 08:54 - Sep 24 by mellowblue |
I had a look on Google Earth which is pretty reliable for altitudes. The river is actually 10 metres higher than Ewood Park pitch which itself is in a natural bowl where excess water would drain to. so they really took a chance building it there. |
They have been at Ewood since the 1880s or 1890s, and the surrounding flood meadows have been developed since then reducing run-off plus the Blakewater has been culverted and re-routed as well, all of which which is probably a contributing factor to the flood impact . . . [Post edited 24 Sep 10:28]
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| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 09:55 - Sep 24 with 418 views | jas0999 |
The weather was equally as bad in Salford. They completed their match. | | | |
| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 10:08 - Sep 24 with 338 views | Guthrum |
| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 06:38 - Sep 24 by lurcher |
It would cost millions to solve, probably more than the 3.5 our pitch cost. They are trying to get rid of water that is below the height of the water table. |
To be fair, weight of rainfall (as in how much comes down at once, rather than overall levels) has increased greatly in recent years, presumably as the climate changes.
I've seen a lot of buildings where guttering and run-off, perfectly adequate since the Victorian era, is proving unable to cope with the downpours we get nowadays. Constant battle against damp ingress. |  |
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| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 10:18 - Sep 24 with 301 views | mellowblue |
| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 09:40 - Sep 24 by bsw72 |
They have been at Ewood since the 1880s or 1890s, and the surrounding flood meadows have been developed since then reducing run-off plus the Blakewater has been culverted and re-routed as well, all of which which is probably a contributing factor to the flood impact . . . [Post edited 24 Sep 10:28]
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interesting , thanks. | | | |
| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 10:38 - Sep 24 with 221 views | Ryorry |
| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 09:11 - Sep 24 by Swansea_Blue |
Embarrassingly, it took me a while to get the reference as I’ve never listened to much of the Beatles |
Or watched much of ‘The Two Ronnies’?! |  |
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| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 10:40 - Sep 24 with 206 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 10:38 - Sep 24 by Ryorry |
Or watched much of ‘The Two Ronnies’?! |
Ah, was it in there. I'm just a cultural desert  | |
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| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 10:53 - Sep 24 with 102 views | Ryorry |
| Blackburn should be punished for not having a ground fit for purpose on 10:40 - Sep 24 by Swansea_Blue |
Ah, was it in there. I'm just a cultural desert |
Surprised no one’s already told Ismael to ‘Four Candles’ off! | |
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